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I spent the day reorganizing the garage so the dirty bench wouldn’t have anything above it to possibly fall on the glass while I’m installed the gasket and trim on the windshield. And it’s always kind of nice to have a reason for changing things around and cleaning up anyway.

Here’s what the bench looked like this morning. It’s 72” wide and the W/S is approximately 66” wide, so my 5 foot clean bench won’t work:

http://imageshack.us/a/img850/5569/001ubz.jpg

Here’s what it looks like now. Looking at the pegboard with all the stuff out of the way certainly confirms why it’s called the dirty bench:

http://imageshack.us/a/img15/6269/002xej.jpg

There are a few more things to remove tomorrow, including the tote on the left and the bench vise. Once everything is cleaned up it will be covered in towels for padding.

And here’s where everything went, on the opposite wall. All that was required was a bit of compression, and moving the items farther away from the benches that are seldom used:

http://imageshack.us/a/img705/1341/003hbf.jpg

And here’s the finished result. Some of it will go back after the windshield is done, but most of it will stay where it is, simply because it’s a better use of space:

http://imageshack.us/a/img221/7610/004fhd.jpg

Onward and upward!

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With our visitors having left for home, I finally got started on the windshield removal today.

First the bench vise was removed and the bench covered with a camping pad. Next the spotlights and outer brackets were removed, along with the inside mirror. I decided the method with the least risk to remove the windshield would be to cut away the entire outside of the gasket.

This was done in two slices. The rear flap of was cut free first, allowing the portion against the glass to be separated and cut off, allowing the windshield to be lifted off the truck without resistance (indicated below).

http://imageshack.us/a/img9/454/1404windshield005aa.jpg

I started with a single edge razor blade and found this too difficult to control so an Xacto knife was used. It soon became apparent that once a length of seal could be lifted, pulling on the cut portion while slicing the rubber allowed removing long sections somewhat easily (as shown here):

http://imageshack.us/a/img38/7291/0025uh.jpg

The remaining face of the gasket was stuck pretty tight to the glass in areas where sealer had been applied, so I slimed up a paint stick with Armoral and ran it around the entire gasket to loosen the bond:

http://imageshack.us/a/img850/2939/0028a.jpg

The next step was slicing away the rest of the gasket, and cleaning up the mess. I was getting tired and it was getting dark so I decided to wait until tomorrow morning to remove the glass. Here’s how it sits tonight, although I later taped the windshield to the side windows for extra insurance until I get back to it. The gasket hanging down from the top is actually what’s left of the inside seal.

http://imageshack.us/a/img706/9015/0031vz.jpg

Once the windshield is on the bench I’ll clean up the body cavity and see it anything needs attention. So far so good.

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I found it easier for me on the 64-66's to cut the rubber from the inside. Is it because of the shape of the 60-63's wrap-around window that you find it easier from the outside?
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Yes, because of the dogleg shape around the dash, it would be somewhat difficult to even access the rubber seal without scratching either the glass or the paint along the vertical sides. From the outside it's completely exposed.


We pulled the windshield this morning. While my wife stabilized the outside, I gave the upper inside a gentle nudge and it came free effortlessly. We lifted it off and the remainder of the lower gasket fell into the cab. Other than a small amount of dry dirt under the gasket, there’s nothing but shiny black lacquer paint. No repairs needed of any kind. After the glass is cleaned up and the seal/trim installed, I’ll get back to detailing the cab opening:

http://imageshack.us/a/img87/8808/000fc.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img28/1064/001yih.jpg

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Awesome step by step Mark!
I have to yank my windshield too, but I been putting that off until I get a few other major things straight, like getting it running !!

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Thanks Mike. I’m going to document this process no matter how it turns out. I wish there was already a photo process posted somewhere that I could also follow!

This afternoon I spent almost 2 hours removing the residual urethane adhesive and gasket crud lines from the windshield eventually it came out spotless:

http://imageshack.us/a/img29/9995/54704431.jpg

First pass at attempting to install the windshield gasket took about the same amount of time. I had it completely installed twice, but the stretch across the top was so tight, once an upper corner was completed the other side popped off. Taping in place didn’t help. The answer is I’ll have to pull more stretch out of the lower section of the seal before I can complete the task. It’s going to take two of us to pull some stretch in it so that will have to wait until tomorrow morning.

http://imageshack.us/a/img717/2773/19237216.jpg

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Finishing the seal installation this morning was much easier than expected. My wife held the bottom center of the gasket to keep it from moving while I pulled a little over an inch of stretch into the lower portion. Before the stretch these marks lined up:

http://imageshack.us/a/img528/6466/seal003.jpg

From there I continued fitting the seal over the glass up to the top center where it was taped in place. I repeated the process on the other side until the entire seal fit perfectly with virtually no tendency to peel off in the upper corners. We had turned the windshield around so I could access the left end of the glass from both sides. Because my wife held the lower center on both stretches, the joint remained perfectly centered:

http://imageshack.us/a/img163/5471/seal002.jpg

I placed some duct tape to hold everything in place so we could turn the windshield back around facing the front, and will let it set for a day or so before working in the trim.

http://imageshack.us/a/img545/9182/seal001.jpg

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can't wait to see the final install, I think this will make a huge difference in the appearance of you truck, nice work... amazing patience

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Okay so I got impatient. Once the gasket was relaxed and installed without any strain, it seemed like it would be very simple to install the trim. I started with the two top pieces, peeled back the inner flap and just popped it in. On these pieces I started at the center and worked outward. The lower pieces needed to start in the corners, so I placed a length of 2x4 lengthwise near the center and leaned the glass forward enough for the lower inner side flaps to have free movement. They also popped right in without any lubricant. The only difficulty was the left end (the passenger side of the windshield) because I was working alone and couldn’t turn the glass around for better access. I left the end caps off per the factory instructions. Inserting all the trim took less than half an hour.

So there it sits ready to go. Next step is cleaning up the windshield cavity on the cab. I also need to reinstall the wipers temporarily so I can mark the center of the body on the cowl vent to make for easy alignment of the windshield. After that we’ll turn the windshield again so I can insert the rope in the seal. The installation won’t happen until my wife’s next day off so we can allow as much time as it takes. I’m starting to get enthusiastic at this point.

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Also, for anyone considering this job I’d highly recommend picking up a glass stick ahead of time. I bought this one from Amazon. It’s a little under 8” long and is a real lifesaver. It cost 5 bucks including shipping. I thought I was buying a 5 pack, but in the pricing confusing I ended up selecting a single unit. I really didn’t need five of them anyway.

http://imageshack.us/a/img109/2184/dsc0011wog.jpg

One other tip – for removing urethane or any other windshield adhesive, alcohol is a releasing agent and pops it loose immediately. That and a new single edge razor blade really helps in cleaning up the glass crud and old gasket remnants.

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Not much to look at here other than I finished cleaning up the windshield cavity and marked the centerline on the cowl vent. I think I’m out of things to prep. Nothing left to do now but install the glass!

http://imageshack.us/a/img3/7374/dsc0008rr.jpg

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Looks great. I admire your patience. Can't wait to see the glass in.:metal:

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If everything goes well we’ll be installing the windshield Tuesday afternoon. My son will drop over after work to provide a 3rd pair of hands. After watching every video I could find I’ve decided to go with the top first approach. Having made that decision the gasket was roped up tonight with 3/16”, and taped thoroughly to keep everything in place while the assembly is transferred to the truck. Per the videos I’ve seen there’s no need to remove the tape. The rope tears right through it, after which it can simply be lifted off from each side.

http://imageshack.us/a/img687/1508/001bsg.jpg

I picked up several tubes of KY and am going to thoroughly smear the gasket and the cab opening just before placement. I already have a spray bottle for a mix of water and Dawn dish soap in case it needs additional lubrication during the installation. I also picked up a couple of cheap suction cups in case I need some gentle pressure from inside, along with a hook tool set from Harbor Freight. One of the tools already came in handy for bedding the rope in the groove.

I’m really enthusiast now and can’t wait to see it back together with the new trim. With a pair of NOS fully polished wiper blades on the way it should look pretty decent.

Now the next big question is whether or not to add the chrome locking bead to the back window!

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Looking great Mark. I really enjoy following your projects on your truck. You go into such detail with your descriptions and also your work that I can always look back for reference and inspiration when I start a similar job. I'm sure many others on the site have done the same. Keep it up.:metal:

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Mark ..... not to take away from your windshield right now, but dang dude your thread saved me again !!
I dropped my engine and tranny in yesterday and lo-and behold, my shifter assembly on the transmission sits WAYYYYY back.
I remembered you had made an adapter for your shifter, and when I looked it up today, you had the Hurst "C" shifter handle there too.

Found one on Ebay, should be here next week !!

Thanks man, you are a life saver even when you are not trying to be !! :metal:

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Thanks for the comments guys, they are much appreciated.

The windshield went in today on schedule, and according to plan. It took just over an hour to have it fully seated and installed, and then we spent about another 30 minutes just making sure everything was in as tight as possible. I’ll spell out all the details tomorrow. Although it went in without any particular difficulties, it was completely exhausting running back and forth to both sides of the truck to get the best angles, and using both finesse and maximum effort to pull the gasket into place. A bench seat would have made the job a lot easier.

Here’s the only after shot I have so far. The center caps are not yet in place. I’ll get some better photos once everything is cleaned up and put back together. I can't wait to see the overall image outside showing the whole truck:

http://imageshack.us/a/img715/1143/001kno.jpg

Also the new fully polished stainless wiper blades showed up today and look fantastic with the NOS polished wiper arms.

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wow... nice!

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I can't wait for the full effect pictures myself, great job Mark!

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Looks great Mark, now I will have to do mine, I bought a complete truck just for the chrome, a original chrome bumper, windshield trim, custom chrome, full body no engine, lwb fleetside for $200.00 Just need to get it all apart.....Kieth :gmc2:

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Looks awesome. Im polishing my 2nd set of trim myself. The 1st set was the 1/2" 62-63 trim. I got rid of that for a 60-61 1" trim. Cant have enough chrome right. Be doing the same install shortly. You said you used Precision gasket co for the windshield?

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Yes I did use a Precision gasket. I bought it from American Classic Truck Parts because they could commit to sending me the brand I wanted.

http://www.americanclassic.com/

I called customer service first and then added a note in the special instructions field and they sent me exactly what I asked for. They sell 6 different brands, so you need to ask to get the preferred brand.

Got everything back together today – steering wheel, spotlights, inside mirror, etc. The upper trim cap was the hardest part and took over an hour and a lot of adjustments to the piece to get it to snap in place. I also set the spotlights to park a little bit higher this time so they don’t clobber the trim.

Ended up having a choice in the early evening between washing the truck (it’s covered in dirt) or taking pictures (I was running out of daylight). Hopefully I’ll get a chance to give it a bath tomorrow before it starts raining over the weekend!

Here’s the best before and after shots available at the moment. The trim makes a huge difference in real life. To me it was worth all the trouble it took:

http://imageshack.us/a/img819/4741/beforepe.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img854/3707/afteru.jpg

I’m still debating whether to add the chrome rear window bead. My rear gasket is like new so all I’d need to do is pull the bead and add the chrome version. Opinions either way are welcome.

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looks beautiful, Mark...really ties into your other chrome nicely...and I say go for the rear chrome trim as well! great job, as always :bowtie:

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That is a very dramatic difference. Once again, your attention to detail pays huge dividends. Well done, sir!

Just my 2 cents worth, but with that chrome trim, I think some chrome bezels on the parking lights would really pop now.

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Very Nice, and yes the difference is very noticeable and adds more than I can describe via my wordsmith skills or lack thereof... waiting patiently for rear window decision...

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now that makes it stand out..nice job

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looks awesome mark, well done

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when I am able to upgrade to AC I will want to go back to a factory back glass (currently an aftermarket slider), and would like to add the chrome trim to match my front window, so if you do that upgrade... I be watchin, and learnin!

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CRGRS 66....got a piece of glass you can have...just pay for the ride (if its a small back glass). Mark.....trucks looks great. Makes me drool wanting to do mine. In sure I'll have the same anxiety until its complete. Did you use the small trim or the large windshield trim?

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very kind offer 1963, I have the BBW, thank you for the offer though

mark, I agree on the park lamp bezels, shiny ones would look good

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hey craig (sorry mark about steppin on your thread) but i got all my glass from a local glass shop... tinted and shaded windshield, tinted bbw, tinted door and wing glass all for $280... seemed like a good deal to me, check it out.

i agree on the buffed park bezels... a little more bling is a good thing.

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Thanks everyone for all the positive feedback and suggestions, I’m pretty sure I still have another pair of polished aluminum parking bezels. If I can find them I’ll slap them on and see how they look. I’ve preferred the blacked out look for a long time because it takes away much of the Chevrolet look to the hood, and because I’ve never seen anyone else black them out. But I’m thinking with the other shiny stuff it might me a nice improvement.

Yes the trim on the truck is the wide version. I also started out with the narrow trim, but as soon as I found the wide trim I completely lost interest in the skinny set. The thin version is also much harder to repair dings because there’s no access to half of the back where the J support is folded behind the face. The high profile of the wide trim allows almost unrestricted access to the back, making repairs relatively simple by comparison.

I’m going to go ahead and order the chrome bead/rear gasket today. I’ll probably keep the black bead seal in case the chrome version goes bad, but I think the chrome looks so much better it’s worth trying. My only concern is having lived through the snap-on “chrome plastic rain gutter trim” period back in the 50’s. It was also added to door edges, wheel wells, and other odd places on some cars. The snap-on plastic chrome looked like molded stainless steel when new. A short time later it turned yellow, then tan, and finally brown before it started cracking and peeling. The only solution was to peel it off and throw it away. I imagine in 50 years they’ve likely improved the technology. The new stuff is probably urethane and may very well last indefinitely.

Shortly I’ll post the steps we used mounting the windshield. The last couple of days have been consumed attending to the truck and getting everything back in working order. That and standing around admiring how nice it turned out, and being thankful we didn’t break the glass!

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I was extremely disappointed, the stuff I used yellowed in months. I dug the look, until it yellowed.

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Thanks for the input, that has been my concern. I'll definitely keep the black rubber bead so I can put it back in if the chrome stuff yellows. And like so many aftermarket parts it's impossible to know if one brand is any better than the others, or if they're all made by the same source.

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I like your blacked out signal trims, I am thinking for any more chrome, your wheel wells or something like that in the lower half of the truck will balance you out nicely.
I am not sure there are chrome trims out there just for that application for these trucks, but if I were you, I would trust in your skill set enough to modify some from a large A body GM car like say an Impala or GTO that are easily available.
You know, just a thought....

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I retract this comment, forgot that you have a chevy hood on there

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My first windshield installation was back in 1966 on my 1954 Chevy high school car. A local wrecking yard was going out of business and a friend of mine had a 430 Lincoln engine that had spent most of its life as a stationary engine. It was traded to the yard owner for anything we wanted. Along with a whole bunch of other stuff I pulled a mint condition blended windshield out of a 54 Chevy Bel Air. With no training, books, or experience I popped out the black gasket stocker and slapped in the new stainless trimmed model with no trouble whatsoever. Here are before and after photos:

http://imageshack.us/a/img268/9631/1954chevy01.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img841/9839/1954chevy02.jpg

Since then I’ve installed more windshields than I can remember, both the type with gaskets and the later models adhered with urethane. I always did them by myself because they were easy enough help just wasn’t needed. Back in 1998 I attempted to reinstall the damaged original windshield in my truck after painting the cab, and for the first time ever I broke the glass. It did crack at an existing good sized star chip, but this failure really shook my confidence. Not so much because I failed, but more because I never did figure out how it needed to be installed. Every windshield I ever installed went in bottom first. Trying the same approach with the wrap around windshield caused the top of the glass to collide with the roof overhang and before it could be worked into position it split.

So for this attempt I spent months reading and watching everything I could find. And after reading every thread and comment I wasn’t remotely convinced I could pay a professional and receive a perfect installation.

After watching every video I could find on the subject, I bookmarked this one and watched it a couple of more times the morning of the install. Even though it is for a newer series truck it’s the most thorough I’ve found, and extensively uses a hook tool, something I’ve never seen demonstrated before. I don’t know how long it will remain available on YouTube, but here’s the link:


After watching the video I picked up this set at Harbor Freight. The tool marked with the arrow is the only one I used:

http://imageshack.us/a/img189/5643/image15151.jpg

http://www.harborfreight.com/7-piece...set-93958.html

For anyone interested, following are the steps we took to actually install the windshield. It took a little over an hour and ended up being one of the easiest I’ve done.

Last minutes steps were removing the steering wheel and rolling down the side windows for maximum access.

I had my helpers watch the above video from 14 minutes to the end, so they’d know what I was going to be doing in the cab. I also ran the last minute instructions checklist:

1. Remove all rings, wrist jewelry, and belt buckles (which they did).
2. After the windshield is located on the cab, only use open hands to press on the glass.
3. Don’t bounce the pressure.
4. Don’t apply any pressure on the sides of the (wrap around) glass. Press only on the flat face of the windshield.
5. Don’t slap the glass. If that is needed I’ll do it.
6. Don’t touch the glass with any tools.
7. Let me know immediately if a piece of trim pops out. If we don’t catch it early enough we’ll have to pull it back out for correction and start over.

With the glass completely assembled with the gasket, trim, and rope as shown again here:

http://imageshack.us/a/img687/1508/001bsg.jpg

KY personal lubricant was smeared all over the entire windshield cavity and the gasket/rope surface of the windshield. One tube was sufficient to cover everything. This was done immediately prior to placing the glass on the truck so it wouldn’t have a chance to dry out. In retrospect, soapy water would have probably worked just as well. One benefit of the KY is it makes a nice glue once it dries.

Rather than trying to install the glass bottom or top first, I had them almost place the glass flat against the cavity. With the entire gasket within an inch or so of the body, I had them tilt the top in slightly, and I started pulling in the top of the gasket with the hook tool. It pulled over the pinch weld easily. As I was doing this I kept watching the sides, as my biggest concern was the gasket would rub against the body and tend to bend the glass outward causing a stress crack. This turned out to not be a problem. As the glass was seated against the upper pinch weld, the sides slid directly into position in perfect alignment with the A posts. There was no side pressure at all. As more of the gasket seated, I reached down and pulled the lower gasket over the pinch weld again using the hook tool. The mating surfaces were so slimy everything fell right into place. I also had a spray bottle of Dawn dish soap, but didn’t use any.

This process was simple, with very little pressure applied to the glass. I just kept working the sides of the gasket until almost everything was in place and eventually the windshield snugged up against the body. I finally pulled the rope out where it remained, which was almost a nuisance and unnecessary. By the time I did pull the rope the glass was almost completed seated by use of the hook tool.

Final tune up was going over every inch of the gasket again (from the inside) with the hook tool to make sure I had even coverage and the second lip of the gasket flap was clearly inside the pinch flange. I spent a great deal of additional time trying to completely pull the inside gasket flap in place to completely fill the body cavity. On the upper inside corners I never did get this fully accomplished, when it occurred to me this is exactly what the old gasket looked like before I pulled the windshield. I assume this has to do with the size and shape of this particular windshield, rather than having a “bad” gasket. Regardless it is completely seated and sealed.

Here are a few last minute observations:

The hook tool was my best friend. I performed almost the entire installation with it. I recommend adding and using the rope, but it was virtually unneeded on this job.

If the gasket is installed on the bottom edge of the glass first, it must be stretched at least one inch on each side (as shown in post #367 of the build thread photos above) to provide proper fit along the upper edge and corners. If it is not stretched it will pull off the glass taking the trim with it, and no amount of tape will help.

When the trim is installed in the gasket the gap between each end should be nearly the same (about 3/8”-1/2” between each piece). If not, the trim will restrict the movement of the gasket during the windshield installation making it more difficult to fit the corners in the cab correctly.

I bought suction cups but found them unnecessary. I’ve watched videos where others do the job by themselves and use the cups on the inside to pull on the glass. It worked on YouTube, but I wouldn’t attempt that on my windshield.

Sorry there weren’t any photos taken during the process. All three contributors were too busy working and there wasn’t anybody left to operate the camera. That’s about all I can think of for now. If I forgot something obvious please let me know.

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Awesome documenting as always, keep up the great work!!!

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Thanks Don. I strive to build on the library of information the forum offers, hopefully making it a little easier for the next person.

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I’ve also listened to everyone’s input and considered adding polished parking light rims, but after several days of study I just can’t bring myself to embrace them. Looking through dozens of examples, I find I don’t care for the amber lenses with silver rims against the dark paint. To me this combination breaks up the symmetry of the frontal line of dull black paint along the front of the hood.

http://imageshack.us/a/img209/8042/a01p.jpg

So I considered switching the lenses back to clear to make them look more purposeful, like an upgrade feature.

http://imageshack.us/a/img32/5940/a02aq.jpg

But again I don’t find this as attractive as the black rims which blend in and radically minimize the park lights unless they’re illuminated.

http://imageshack.us/a/img545/4563/a03c.jpg

Unless I can think of something even more creative, I think I’ll just leave them alone for now. I do appreciate everyone’s suggestions as this was something I had previously considered myself. I’m always looking for new ideas on how I can improve the appearance of the truck, but I’m also trying to use caution to know when to quit and leave it alone.

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We’ve owned many different stick shift vehicles with different shift patterns, and my wife drives the truck so infrequently – the smooth metalflake shift knob has been making it time consuming for her to find reverse on the rare occasion she uses it. So today the blue knob became another display item, and the Hurst black knob and chrome handle went back in. I had forgotten how much I missed the feel of the Hurst handle and knob, so it will be staying for a while.

Morning

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Afternoon

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