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66Submarine 07-26-2014 10:31 PM

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Don't see the LPG pistons listed by Clifford; their prices seemed scary enough to make me plug the old ones back in, anyhow! :lol:

A '64 wouldn't have had the blue head gasket from the factory. Might have just had the head off before, but old rebuilds are always suspect this far in the future; 85,500 might actually be 185,500 with a little freshening up done at some point. Should be a super nice truck/engine if it really only has 85,500 on it since new, though!

I'm sure you'll be able to make something work, but it's always a very good idea to wait and disassemble/inspect/measure before buying stuff. My 292 had ate the cam (I think it was because of oil dilution), but it was a recent .030 rebuild with the crosshatching still visible; just a new set of moly rings + quick touch-up with a hone and it should be good. No sense paying someone to bore it out and buying new pistons for fun!

You can also save a lot of money in other ways by doing that; the 250 in my truck right now is a pretty recent rebuild (no oil consumption, good leakdown numbers, etc), but the oil pressure is a little lower than what I'd like to see; probably has some wear on the crank and would need to be ground undersized to be "right". But I got another "scrap" 250 full of water for free, and that one had a beautiful standard sized crank in it! A new set of rings/bearings along with the crank out of the scrap engine, and it should be great engine again--and for almost no money. :chevy:

TJ's Chevy 07-26-2014 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by 66Submarine (Post 6777394)
Don't see the LPG pistons listed by Clifford; their prices seemed scary enough to make me plug the old ones back in, anyhow! :lol:

A '64 wouldn't have had the blue head gasket from the factory. Might have just had the head off before, but old rebuilds are always suspect this far in the future; 85,500 might actually be 185,500 with a little freshening up done at some point. Should be a super nice truck/engine if it really only has 85,500 on it since new, though!

I'm sure you'll be able to make something work, but it's always a very good idea to wait and disassemble/inspect/measure before buying stuff. My 292 had ate the cam (I think it was because of oil dilution), but it was a recent .030 rebuild with the crosshatching still visible; just a new set of moly rings + quick touch-up with a hone and it should be good. No sense paying someone to bore it out and buying new pistons for fun!

You can also save a lot of money in other ways by doing that; the 250 in my truck right now is a pretty recent rebuild (no oil consumption, good leakdown numbers, etc), but the oil pressure is a little lower than what I'd like to see; probably has some wear on the crank and would need to be ground undersized to be "right". But I got another "scrap" 250 full of water for free, and that one had a beautiful standard sized crank in it! A new set of rings/bearings along with the crank out of the scrap engine, and it should be great engine again--and for almost no money. :chevy:

Well...compression was around 120 pounds in all cylinders...so I think it has 85,500 on it...if it was to have 185,500 and have that same compression I'd say that was one pampered engine! LOL! If it was bored .030 over then all I have to do is have it bored .010. LOL! That'd be a waist....well..i'll figure outta way to measure the cylinders. One of those blocks outta work anyhow! lol!

66Submarine 07-27-2014 12:51 AM

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I actually have some really tired/borderline "WTF?!" stuff that makes really decent numbers with a comp. tester. "Tighter" engines will supposedly make the pressure with less revolutions/cycles or whatever, but I don't think it's really a good way to determine engine condition beyond a very basic "nothing terminally FUBAR"; the leakdown test is what you want to check for ring condition/wear.

I don't think it's at all unlikely that it might have 185,500 if it's a little tired--especially if the head has been off and it's been worked on or potentially rebuilt. The 250 in one of my trucks has several hundred thousand on the clock with bad cam lobes, smoking, extreme oil consumption, rolling down slight hills in first gear, etc., and it still made nearly the same numbers as my nice 250 using the compression tester; it also somehow still lights right up and runs great, despite all that. The leakdown test didn't lie, though; something like 20% for the good one, and IIRC something insane like 65-80% for the tired one (did I mention it's somewhat tired? :lol:).

The problem with it already being previously rebuilt at .030 is that there's a good chance it won't clean up at 0.040 and you will need to bore it out more than that to clean the cylinders up. Not a big deal if you have another block that will go 0.040 and clean up, but it's just unnecessary potential BS IMO. I don't really see any potential benefit to ordering parts before it's even apart.

FWIW, I'll attach a picture of the 98,500 mile 307 in the '68 Impala I just bought. It's borderline unusually clean (besides the milky oil from a botched intake install), but it illustrates that 98,500 ain't a whole lot for close to five decades. This engine seems to have great compression (tight), lights right up and runs like brand new, is super quiet (no lifter noise, etc), doesn't have a bunch of blowby, and seems to have good leakdown numbers like it should. The car is also pretty much like new mechanically, with no play in the door hinges, no leaky pinion seal, gouged up/replaced brake drums, etc. The 350 with something like 100,000 on it in my father's truck is also still very nice. I think most people really underestimate how many miles the odometer in their truck has really counted off in the years past...

TJ's Chevy 08-02-2014 06:33 PM

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Washed the truck today after moving some crap...also installed this...

Dean'smeanmachine 08-04-2014 10:11 PM

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nice sticker!

Ta2Don 08-04-2014 10:51 PM

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X2...:metal:

TJ's Chevy 08-15-2014 09:55 PM

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Alright ya'all! This is the LAST update on the engine until its done..which should be sometime in the next few months or so...waiting on my machinist. But..seeing the pistons and these should give you a perrty good idea of what I have in store for this engine. Anyway...so NO updates on it till its complete...there'll be small updates on the truck..but nothing on the engine...that's gonna be the big surprise. Enjoy!!! :metal:

Dean'smeanmachine 08-15-2014 10:05 PM

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nice! your the 6 banger man :metal::metal:

Ta2Don 08-15-2014 10:23 PM

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Too Cool!!! :metal:

Palf70Step 08-16-2014 06:01 AM

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Very Nice!

1963c-10 08-16-2014 08:54 AM

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Side plates look great tj

TJ's Chevy 08-16-2014 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Dean'smeanmachine (Post 6803555)
nice! your the 6 banger man :metal::metal:

LOL! Thanks bud!
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Originally Posted by Ta2Don (Post 6803582)
Too Cool!!! :metal:

Thanks brotha! :metal:
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Originally Posted by Palf70Step (Post 6803771)
Very Nice!

Thanks!
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Originally Posted by 1963c-10 (Post 6803851)
Side plates look great tj

Thanks man, getting excited..slowly but surely. :chevy:

TJ's Chevy 08-20-2014 11:56 PM

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Just letting ya'all know I went through a name change. :chevy:

jcramsey 08-21-2014 09:03 AM

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I like those side covers! Cant wait to see the engine when it's done!

1963c-10 08-21-2014 09:13 AM

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You have to hate the wait.....I know I did. Looking forward to pics of the completed engine.

rusty76 08-21-2014 04:58 PM

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You know I thought something looked different....

TJ's Chevy 08-23-2014 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by jcramsey (Post 6810628)
I like those side covers! Cant wait to see the engine when it's done!

Thank bud!!! I'm like cray excited to! lol!
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Originally Posted by 1963c-10 (Post 6810634)
You have to hate the wait.....I know I did. Looking forward to pics of the completed engine.

I'm looking forward to THE completed engine. lol
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Originally Posted by rusty76 (Post 6811101)
You know I thought something looked different....

lol! Got ya. ;)

TJ's Chevy 09-11-2014 05:31 PM

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WOOOOHOOO!!!! My NOS unity spotlight came today!!!! Brand spankin new NOS beauty!!! Can't wait for my mounting bracket kit to arrive!!! :chevy:

Palf70Step 09-11-2014 05:53 PM

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Very Nice!

TJ's Chevy 09-11-2014 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Palf70Step (Post 6839330)
Very Nice!

Thanks!

1963c-10 09-12-2014 08:18 AM

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Nice!!!!

Ta2Don 09-12-2014 09:01 AM

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Finally checking in Brotha! :mm:
Spotlight is Spot On!!!! :haha: All joking aside, Very Nice!!! :metal:
How come it's not installed yet?:lol:

Dean'smeanmachine 09-12-2014 12:44 PM

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im digging the spot light

jcramsey 09-12-2014 12:58 PM

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That's gonna look good on your truck TJ! Just don't come back telling us how the law man caught you poaching deer off the side of the road with your spotlight :lol:

TJ's Chevy 09-12-2014 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by 1963c-10 (Post 6839981)
Nice!!!!

Thanks!
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Originally Posted by Ta2Don (Post 6840025)
Finally checking in Brotha! :mm:
Spotlight is Spot On!!!! :haha: All joking aside, Very Nice!!! :metal:
How come it's not installed yet?:lol:

LOL! Thanks brotha! Spotlight ain't installed cause some company called Unity USA obviously ain't in a hurry to send me my brackets!!! Oh the drama! lol! :chevy:
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Originally Posted by Dean'smeanmachine (Post 6840231)
im digging the spot light

Thanks man!
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Originally Posted by jcramsey (Post 6840254)
That's gonna look good on your truck TJ! Just don't come back telling us how the law man caught you poaching deer off the side of the road with your spotlight :lol:

I'll make sure not to use it when the law man is around! :mm: :lol:

TJ's Chevy 10-05-2014 09:35 PM

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Well peoples....my antenna mount finally broke.....see my finger point to where the mount should be in the first picture.....2nd picture....Problem Fixed!!!!!! :metal:
EDIT. 2nd picture does no justice to the truck....NO...the antenna isn't just sitting there like that...its tucked under the drip rail in front of the window....And funny thing is..after having it that way for about 3 months now...It don't look to bad. lol

TJ's Chevy 10-07-2014 10:41 PM

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Well, not much to report lately...My spotlight brackets should be here on Friday...YAY! Truck time on Saturday! And my engine should be done late this month early next month...Finally! lol. Updates this week end(hopefully). :chevy:

Ta2Don 10-08-2014 09:29 PM

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:metal:

TJ's Chevy 10-10-2014 02:09 PM

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Look what came in da mail today!!!!!! WOOOHOO!!! :metal:

rusty76 10-10-2014 04:41 PM

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Now you have to put it on!

Ta2Don 10-10-2014 11:07 PM

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What??? Not installed yet??? :haha:

Looks like there is some fun in the near future...;)

dwcardfan 10-10-2014 11:19 PM

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I love getting new parts for the truck!:metal::metal:

TJ's Chevy 10-10-2014 11:41 PM

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Thanks DW!!!!

Anyhow...I got my spotlight installed! Here's a link to a thread about the install....http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=646065

And here's some pictures....better ones to come Saturday.

TJ's Chevy 10-10-2014 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Ta2Don (Post 6874726)
What??? Not installed yet??? :haha:

Looks like there is some fun in the near future...;)

Its installled brotha! :metal:

Ta2Don 10-11-2014 08:30 AM

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Nice job Brotha...:metal:
Will call ya soon...:mm:

TJ's Chevy 10-11-2014 01:40 PM

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New pictures! :metal:

TJ's Chevy 10-11-2014 01:43 PM

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Couple more....

Palf70Step 10-11-2014 07:28 PM

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:metal: Very Nice :metal:

rusty76 10-11-2014 08:15 PM

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I likes it!

Bomp 10-12-2014 10:07 AM

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X2


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