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Thanks AD, I was thinking about powder coating that piece with a silver vein black...probably just back up and paint it white like the rest.

Yea, I can't look at a flat piece of metal without thinking...damn, that needs some holes in it! :lol:

Thanks Ogre! :D



I don't think these trucks came with radiator support rods??, but the core support had some angled holes at the upper, outer edge that started me thinking. :uhmk:

They really don't need the support, but I've always thought they looked kinda cool.

Sooo, I cut down and dimpled a piece of 2" angle for a firewall plate, welded a couple Al. tie rods together, and bolted them into those holes on the core support...straight bolts at the core support and heims at the firewall.

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Those rods are a nice detail.
Kim

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they do look good. :D
my 59 3800 1 ton has them, i thought they were standard on 1 ton and up.
all the core supports are the same and have the angled holes for the rods.
i believe the engine hump has dimples in the cab where they were drilled out when making a 1 ton

http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/n...mpartment2.jpg

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Thanks...makes me want to run without a hood! :lol:

There ya go, I searched and googled trying to find pics or references to rad support rods...nothing. Thank for the insight!

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now i'm curious :D
look at your engine hump and see if yours is dimpled for the rods
iicr i filled the dimples on truk

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My 58 1/2 ton has core support rods factory. I dont have any pics of them on the truck. It is tore apart

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Sure nuff, Ogre! Our firewall is dimpled, but not drilled out.

Interesting, I wonder why some got em, and others didn't??

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Not getting much done, but still knocking out little things here and there...finished out the firewall/pedal/column mount support and fit in a engine oil cooler up front.

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The support looks really good! What dimension steel is that?

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Very nice stuff.
Kim

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Thanks AD! We used some 1 1/2" x 1/8" angle for the support.

Appreciate it Kim!! :metal:

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Thanks Rocktonka. Do you use dimple dies similar to these?
http://www.mittlerbros.com/mittler-b...mple-dies.html

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Similar AD, but I use this set from Barbed Wire Offroad in TX...4140 material with a center hole so you can use a bolt instead of press if needed.

http://www.shop.barbedwireoffroad.co...3-4-2-8001.htm

Compare the pricing...bang for the buck, it's hard to beat!

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Thanks for the link RockTonka! Yet more tools I want....good value for their set.

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We were kinda struggling with where to dump the exhaust and came up with this approach.
Cut up a section of 4" tubing, slash cut the front and capped off on the back, welded some brackets to them that bolt up high on the rear of the box.
We'll run the exhaust between the frame and box into holes cut at the rear of the "tips".

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Looks good.
Kim

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Thanks again Kim! :metal:

My boy and I both like a tach up on the dash but the matching one to our gauges only came in a 3 1/8" OD. There's only one dash mount cup made for that size tach and it's plastic and expensive. :waah:

Soooo, we had a local exhaust shop stretch a section of 3" tubing out to 3 1/8" ID...nice, slight, press fit for the tach.

We pie cut the back side of the tubing, hammered it into shape over a ball hitch, welded it up, and smoothed it a bit.

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Our original plan was to smooth all the welds and make a nice, perfect, little, round, end to the cup (it's going to be powder coated a black silver vein...all the interior pieces we're making will be), but then it would look like we just bought it somewhere.

We decided to leave the seam welds exposed so that you knew it was homemade. :lol: If I would have figured that part out initially, I would have laid prettier beads! :uhmk:

Anyway, made a simple mount for the cup and bolted it to the top of the dash.

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Outstanding!

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Man that big block sure likes to rev ,for a work truck that is. Lol. Looking good . As usual.

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That's great looking.
Kim

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Major cool! Very well done! Great idea too...love your welds.

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Thanks CD!

:lol: Thanks 6BT! We're gonna try and keep it from getting that rapped out!

:metal: ! Thanks Kim!

Appreciate that AD!!

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You never cease to amaze me with this truck.

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Thanks Jeff!

Not much to add, pulled the bumper to add some traction details for when we've got to climb up and check the oil or something :lol::lol:

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Very cool.
Kim

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you have some mad skills!!!

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and functional too!! :lol: Thanks Kim!

Thanks Michael, we take our time and try not to butcher things too much!

But, I'll tell ya that I'm in constant awe of what we see on this site on a daily basis...masterful workmanship on so many levels, on so many projects!! :metal::metal:


Picked up some parts today...

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That looks awesome!!! I have to say I love the tach pod and want to say thanks for sharing that tip! That is sweet! I may have to buy some of those dimple dies. That sure is a fast way to add strength to a bracket or panel.

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Looks great.
I love all the dimpled holes.
Kim

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That gauge panel looks awesome - you're killing it!

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Works of art! Is that powdercoat?

Nice pool table too!

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Cool DW!! Glad to give something back to the site. Be careful though, the dimple dies can be addictive...;)

Thanks Kim, your constant support is very cool!!

Thanks Rick, I'm anxious to start reassembling already!!

Very nice of ya AD, thanks! The finish is a black hammer tone powder coat. We were initially wanting a black silver vein finish but it was a little too light and would not have had the UV resistance that the hammer tone did.

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I would have ever thought of that powder coat on the gauge panel but it looks great.

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We kinda struggled with whether or not to powder coat that panel. I ordered it black anodized and liked the look, but we made a snap decision the day after we dropped the other parts off to go ahead and coat it also...figured that if nothing else, it would at least match!! :lol:

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Wow, looks amazing!!

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Thanks CD!



Started the tear down for body work and paint...

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Congrats.
That's a big step towards completion.
Kim

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Yea, it kinda was. I'm looking forward to bolting everything back together...for the last time!


Not much to add tonight, stopped early and took the family out to dinner. We did build out a simple dolly to roll the cab around on, stout enough to climb all over the cab, load on/off trailers, etc...gonna be on this until the cab goes back on the chassis.

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Nice cart! Looks like a 57 Chevy in the background. Another project?

What color for the cab? Everything is looking really good!