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Thanks Ryan…

Thanks Mike, you know I have you covered.. Looking forward to seeing more progress on yours when the time is right….

Thanks…

I will be using the stock column (looking for a tilt at this time). The 4L60e is a 4 speed; my understanding is that the stock shifter will be able to shift correctly for all the gears. I believe you can even buy a 4 speed shift indicator for the stock column..
Good luck on your build…

Gene, I just read your build, I love the paint job and the truck is looking great…. Good luck with the rest of your build.

Thanks QuadZero..


Thanks again Mike, I hope everything is going well for you.. Have a great day…

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No pictures for the work I did this weekend (Sunday). I did re-route the electric fan control wires back into the engine wiring harness and terminated those wires under the dash. I also routed two 10 Gauge power wires from the red battery connection box to under the dash to power the fuse box, relays, and PCM. I spent about 6 hours working on the wiring. My goal is to make sure everything fits on the cab before I do the rest of the body work and paint, just in case I have to do some more welding or drilling to mount the pieces needed. Next week I will install the wiring for the Vintage Air System, Air Conditioning Control, Radio (maybe), gauges, etc. Once everything has been fitted, I will tear it all down, finish the body work, primer, and figure out how to paint this thing.
I would recommend for others to do this test fitting before they paint, I will need to do some welding on the inner firewall to get all of the AC relays and other items mounted without running screws though the firewall missing up all the work I did to shave it.

On a positive note I did get everything re-wired so that I could start the engine again.. this is one of the motivators I use to work in the summer…

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Time for an update, I took a few days off last week and worked a little on the truck.

First I worked out a method to install the new hood springs on the new hinges.

This seemed to work ok..

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Then I worked on the door hinges; broke them down, sand blasted, installed new bushings and hinge pins, and then painted with por15.

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After that I test fit the new doors.. There is an issue with the location of the hinge mounting nuts in the doors. The worst one was on the lower section of the passenger door. It appears it is offset ¼ to 3/8 of an inch.

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In addition it appears the door window hoop may be too tall on the new doors.. But I have not decided how much yet…

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And finally on Sunday I started modifiy the old truck cab wiring harness for the new electronics…

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Next week I will build another plate to mount the electronics to for the rest of the relays and modules. This will help me to test and fit my new Dakota Digital Gauge set.

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I really wanna do this to my 72 but the only thing scareing me away is all the wires and electronics....
Thats really the only thing thats holding me back... How hard/easy would it be for someone who doesnt really ever work with wires to redo the wire harness like you did?
Btw your truck looks really nice and im really liking your stands
:new:
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There is a lot of good information on this site and others on how to complete the swap. I enjoying the wiring and mechanical aspect of the swap, and do not think either is that difficult. If you decided to do it, just know that there are good people on this site to help you with any issues you run into..

Good luck and thanks for the comments...

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Very nice progress Mark! Things are really coming together for you.
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thanks Mike... I still don't see the end. The wiring is not really complicated but it is time consuming, especially with all the new electronics(PCM,Dash,AC,etc) I have added.

Hope you are fishing or golfing today...
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Time for a update.. IT IS FREAKING HOT!! 110F today .. That’s the update…

I am still working on the electrical stuff.. Modifying the original wiring harness to work with the new Dakota Digital gauges, Vintage Air AC, and late model PCM. First step is rework (I Hate it, but it happens).. Removed TAC module from above the PCM to new mounting plate on firewall. Then install DD control box were the TAC was.

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Next problem was bring the rear wiring harness, fuel pump, fuel sending unit, low fuel sensor, AC, and heater solenoid wires into the cab without cutting new holes in the firewall. I decided to use the existing wire bulkhead connector. It had spare slots. First step was to find the terminal ends needed..

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I found the terminal ends at DigiKey.

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Built new mounting plate to install TAC, DD OBDII interface, AC relays, etc.. Had to do some welding on the firewall to attach the mounting bolts..

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Then I installed the DD gauges… Sweet setup.. I am using the PCM to feed all of the readings to the gauges.. Water Temp, Transmission Temp, Speed, Tach, Gear indicator, etc…

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I am close to having all the wiring complete. I have it completed enough to use the key to start…. After that it is back to the bodywork.. I will be ordering the patch panel for the bed floor repair this week.. I only need a 4”x6” patch.. and it looks like I have to buy a 48”x16” patch panel, so I will have some left over if anyone needs bed floor patches..
Also, starting the search for a new steering wheel, and retro radio.. anybody have any ideas on which direction I should go?

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I love the new cluster! That looks great. Very clean work with the wiring like always. I need to hire you to do my wiring :)
I want to buy one of the DD setups too. Lots of cash $$$$
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I have been on the hunt for bed patch panels,I guess I need to look at the DD setups again, the only ones I've seen are the digital numbers in the guage itself which I dont care for, I didn't know you could actually get digital guages with the sweep scales on them, thanks for taken a pic with the lights out so we could see the contrast of the nightime dash lights coool. Those terminal ends, are the exactly like the originals that go in the bulkhead blocks? I'll be looking into those also. Doing all the mock up is a necessary evil but once you got it, it sure makes the final assembly go that much easier (LOL) most of the time.
Keep moving forward it is looking real good.

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That looks great! Love the gauges and super clean install on the wiring!

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Thanks Mike.. No problem on the wiring... you have already pre-paid.. :-) The DD was $$$, but not a lot more than a restored cluster..

Have a great day..

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Thanks.. The bed patch is tough to find.. It requires the bedside to be off to get to it. The DD setup is nice, and if you use the OBDII interface you only need to run the oil pressure, everything else comes from the PCM.

The terminal ends seem to be exactly the same except they are tin and not copper/brass. They fit exactly the same as far as I can tell. I will get the part number and post on here.

Almost done with the wiring mockup... then it is back to the bodywork.

Once again thanks..

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Thanks..

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Did you check with sharpie, teeitup, or any of the guys that part out trucks constantly to see if they have a patch or bed floor? Those guys probably scrap a bunch of lwb beds. I might have one, just never got around to checking for you.
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Really nice work, the wiring setup is so well thought out and looks like car show quality, appreciate wiring done right, I do a lot of wiring so it made me smile. Cool build on the truck too, nice fitment of the doors to fenders and cab. better watch it I think people are going to start lining up with jobs.

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Thanks Mike, I will check with them..

Have a great day...

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Thanks Mud.Man.. I enjoy the wiring.. but I need to start back on the bodywork..

Have a great day..

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Finally got to work on the project again. Decide to start back on the bed floor. I ordered a patch for the rust spot I had already cut out a few weeks ago. I needed a patch 4” by 6”, and I had to order a 66” by 18” from Classics Industries. It was packed very well and arrived with no damage.
I considered replace the hole rear section, but decide to keep the original metal and only replace what was needed.

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First I needed do create a patch for the support cross member. I used a sheet of 16 gauge metal I picked up at Lowes.

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Then I marked and cut out the patch from the large patch.

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Then welding it in place.

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Then I welded up all of the holes in the bed. the same person that drilled the 72 holes in the high hump must have been involed in the bed drilling.. There were 31 holes in the bed from 5/16” to 1 1/4”. After that I finished sand basting the floor and then POR15 the floor bottom. Also sprayed the POR15 rubberized spray on the bottom of the floor.

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Decide to work on the AC control while I waited for the paint to dry. It had a broke lever and I needed to install the new faceplate that came with the Vintage Air system. Everything went well except for the little push on clips that hold the levers to the slide pieces. If anyone knows where to get them let me know.

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Also installed a new battery..

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Tomorrow I hope to epoxy Primer the top of the bed floor, and then start on the rear fender wells and bedsides.

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Nice work!

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good call on using only what you needed that is alot of cutting,welding and grinding if you use the whole patch. Aint it fun cutting out little pieces of metal and fitting them in holes with no bottoms(LOL) sounds like someone got happy with the drill on your bed. Well I have been posting and searching for some patch panels to no avail, but... I finally found a whole bed floor from Jerimiah King a member here that is local for me(SCORE) bed is really nice and no rust to speak of but I too was cutting and filling numerous holes on it also. I think about 13 is all. keep at it you are waay ahead of me, Question: what kind of seam sealer are you going to use if at all to assemble your bed?

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Thanks...

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Great find on the near rust free bed.. I have not even thought about seam sealer for the bed.. Do you have any ideas?

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I used the same seam sealer on my bed wheel tubs as I used around the drip rail. Just the regular caulk tube stuff. Your wiring work is outstanding. I really like the new DD gage set ups better than the old LED readouts they used to have. Nice job on the bed patches.

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Very nice progress Mark. That ac control turned out great. Is there a chance I may have the clips you're looking for?
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Thanks Mike.. I bet you would have the clips, but I am not sure how to remove them with tearing them up..

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I went to buy some supplies at my local paint supply store(primer,POR15,more sandpaper,etc. etc) and he recommended 3M brand All-around Autobody sealant #08500 it is in a caulking tube it is white. The guy says it's paintable, it wont harden like a rock but it will stay pliable somewhat? he said quite a bit harder than say RTV sealant.if thats any kind of reference? I will be getting my bed floor sandblasted probably next week then POR15 then assemble it. I'll try it and let you know how it goes.

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Awesome inspiring work as always!

are you looking for the round clips that go on the rods to retain them to the levers on the heater controls?? I think a have a few 50 or so NOS ones I could donate a few to you.

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Great.. I will pay you for them...

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Back at it this morning.. Flipped the bed floor over and cleaned the bed to prep it for the epoxy primer..

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Sprayed the primer.. I reduced it more than I did on the cab.. Seemed to help a lot..

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I worked out a lot of dents in the floor but stopped when I realized the pitting in the floor will reguire me to use a spray on bed liner to make it look right..

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Then I fired up the sand blaster and started on the front of the bed and the rear inner fenders..

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After that I started on the cowl piece.. Not sure what type of paint they had on this.. but the sand blaster had problems cutting it.. I will use the DA to finish it….

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My goal now is to get rid of all of the yellow (original color).. I think all I have left is the bedsides and the tailgate…

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Tomorrow I will start on working the dents out of the rear inner fenders…

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These ?? Just tell me how many you need. PM me an address or ph number if you want to pick them up. No payment required for a fellow Okie. Looks like I was a little late or I could have gave you part of my old bed floor also. Mine has rot in the front and I just got another swb steel floor.

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I'm really enjoying this project, keep up the great work. The box is going to be fantastic.

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Dan,

PM sent.. Thanks for helping me out on this. I figured someone would have the patch I was looking for as soon as I bought the new piece.. no problem, I have lot's of extra patch for others when they need it..

Once again thanks..

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Thanks quadzero....

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Crash, you making this look too easy, keep up the awesome work.
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Awesome job your doing on the build , shes going to look sweet when shes done

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My bed had some pitting, I went with a color matched spray in bedliner. Looks great, thats the way you should go.

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Gene,

Thanks... I hope the bed liner works for me.. Just finished reading your build, you truck is awesome... I can only hope mine turns out half as nice..

I am doing my build at Lake Eufaula.. Maybe I should shoot up HWY. 69 and check yours out some day...

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Thanks driller....

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Thanks for the positive comment.. Not sure about the easy part.. lol