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RodsGreen10 12-10-2015 05:11 PM

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Installed. This is actually a great idea for doing this at home. You could leave it or have it welded on. I am going to get mine welded on but this is perfect for getting it up and running. I used a step bit for drilling the hole. Need a 7/8 drill bit. Step bit was the perfect length short and ate that aluminum up. Plus step bit deburs as it cuts nice and smooth.

RodsGreen10 12-10-2015 08:06 PM

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All buttoned up underneath.

RodsGreen10 12-10-2015 08:07 PM

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Different angle. Fits like it came that way. I like how they put HeatShield Procducts over the harness to protect it.

RodsGreen10 12-10-2015 08:13 PM

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What I have left is. Install fuel pump relay and run wires. Install fuel tank. Run fuel line. Program. Fire this bad boy up. And go run the piss out of it!!! Make sure I got my money's worth haha!!

Advanced Design 12-10-2015 10:30 PM

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Cool, get some video if you can.

RodsGreen10 12-11-2015 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by RodsGreen10 (Post 7402911)
Found another place that has the GM weather pack clips. I don't know which one will work but I will find out. I think this should be included with the FiTech for mounting the harnesses. Better than zip ties.

http://www.hipoparts.com/products/Mo...onnectors.html

These would not work too small. I am waiting on the other clip.

RodsGreen10 12-11-2015 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Advanced Design (Post 7405766)
Cool, get some video if you can.

I will do my best. Shouldn't be a issue.

RodsGreen10 12-11-2015 03:19 PM

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My fuel line I will be using.

RodsGreen10 12-11-2015 09:01 PM

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Well you know how dirt and grime get in every little orfice and crack in a vehicle. Got me thinking about my vent on my fuel pump. So I bough a diff/tranny case vent. So for you who do not know what it is or looks like the pic below will help. Vents pressure and keeps crap out of places it shouldn't be. Should work really good.

RodsGreen10 12-11-2015 09:02 PM

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And here it is on the pump just fits.

RodsGreen10 12-12-2015 09:22 PM

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Fuel filter mounted.

RodsGreen10 12-12-2015 09:23 PM

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Pressure side return line and wiring to pump.

RodsGreen10 12-12-2015 09:25 PM

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I ran into a issue with the damn filler neck. My filler neck on my truck will not fit a 87 R10 that's some BS. And not 1 damn parts store has one or can get one. But my buddy said he has one and will bring it tomorrow.

RodsGreen10 12-12-2015 09:27 PM

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O and I had to do a little custom look. Piss in hanging something off my windshield. Not a fan of that. I have done this in other vehicle that I have custom tuned example SCT handhelds. So here is something a littl custom looking. It is just sitting for now I will mount it so I can close it without it moving around. Fits like a glove!!

RodsGreen10 12-13-2015 08:59 AM

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This is how I ran my return line.

RodsGreen10 12-13-2015 02:54 PM

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It's ALIVE!!!

tjsblazer 12-13-2015 02:56 PM

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Awesome. Can't wait to hear your impressions.

RodsGreen10 12-13-2015 05:48 PM

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Awesome. Can't wait to hear your impressions.

Worth every ****ing penny!!!! I am out driving I will post more. Also got a warm start up video....

swampbog 12-13-2015 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by RodsGreen10 (Post 7408916)
Worth every ****ing penny!!!! I am out driving I will post more. Also got a warm start up video....

Can't wait to see how everything turned out and how you plumbed it.

RodsGreen10 12-13-2015 06:40 PM

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Here is the first warm start up video. This is 20 min after first fire up and drive. Idk if this is any good. I don't YouTube lol. I have a few comments I will post up here in a few.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=...&v=rfauqfN8m7c

RodsGreen10 12-13-2015 06:43 PM

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Here is how I ran my o2 you can see the loom coming off the side laid it on top of the alternator wire.

RodsGreen10 12-13-2015 06:47 PM

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I ran the pressure side just how the stock line was and ran the feed line under it. I posted this before but here it is again.

RodsGreen10 12-13-2015 06:49 PM

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Mounted pressure side up front to head.

RodsGreen10 12-13-2015 06:50 PM

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Under heater hose up to the FiTech EFI.

RodsGreen10 12-13-2015 06:53 PM

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The main harness and the temp sensor harness and the secondary harness with ac fan 2 and nitrous. I ran down between intake and valve cover. I am still waiting on those clips so for now I just have the main and secondary zipped up on those 3 holes I posted back a couple pages.

RodsGreen10 12-13-2015 07:09 PM

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Now onto the main thing what do I think. Well I got it all done followed the start up procedure initial setup is easy peasy. Key on click click injectors priming crank crank crank. Key on wait click click injectors priming still nothing. No big deal it will start. So my son and I left cause we needed food we drove and got lunch came back (10min) key on injectors click click fired right up. Hmm o well it's running. I had to adjust the idle screw idle was low for my motor. Turned it off so the TPS would relearn. Let it idle and get to operating temp to see if fans would kick on a my settings I put in handle held. Bam dead nuts on. I am loving this!!! It was idling up and down I could tell it was learning fine tuning. So let go hammer on it haha. So I take it out for a 20 min drive. Perfect is all I can think of its perfect!! It drives better drives smoother sounds smoother. Sounds totally different I am loving this. Throttle is response is instant! Even tested out the ac it idled right up!! O forgot I messed with the setting already before I left the house I set my AFR what I wanted them at. Truck been on the dyno a few times so I know what my afr needs to be for max power. Click of a few buttons and done! And it was dead on after about 10 min. Got home turned it off started it again fired right up. Know with that being said. I need to find and make a adjustment on pump shot. I have a big cam and need more fuel shot into the intake to get it fired up on first lick. I can do that but can't find that setting right now. I have a email into Ken.
Now this is no BS. I was against EFI kits because I have had 2 before a Holley and MSD. I was not a fan of either. Holley had way to many wires ecu boxes to mount. It was over kill. MSD kept burning up the ecu. Got tired of that crap. So I am sold on the FiTech EFI. For the money the features the tunability and the simplicity of install. It is the best in the market IMO. I would not think twice about telling someone to spend $$ on the FiTech EFI. If you want one get it if you are thinking about just do it. You will love it. No BS is was worth every damn bit of my money!!!
I will post more as the week goes on. And more pics when I get them. If you all have more questions on the FiTech EFI or the install just ask I have no prob helping out.

SCOTI 12-13-2015 07:42 PM

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Been watching your progress. Glad to hear it went well & thanks for the thorough info you've shared. Been interested in this set-up for my 64 so this was good to follow.

RodsGreen10 12-13-2015 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by SCOTI (Post 7409054)
Been watching your progress. Glad to hear it went well & thanks for the thorough info you've shared. Been interested in this set-up for my 64 so this was good to follow.

Thanks and anytime. Very happy with the setup. Need more drive time with it. Only put about 15 miles on it. Driving was varied.

RodsGreen10 12-13-2015 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by swampbog (Post 7408940)
Can't wait to see how everything turned out and how you plumbed it.

So far so good. What plumbing info would you like to know?

tjsblazer 12-14-2015 01:18 AM

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Just watched your video. Great sounding truck! What are you running for exhaust?
Did you end up using the timing control feature or not?

RodsGreen10 12-14-2015 05:47 AM

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Thank you. I like the way it sounds myself. I am running headman mid length headers with a x pipe and Borla mufflers. It is 3" from header back.
No I didn't use timing control cause I have the big cap HEI. But from what I can see on the hand held it is doing what it should any changes I made it is doing what I set it to do. I am really pleased with the FiTech EFI!! I am going to get a data log today if it does not rain and read over the data log to verify everything.

So tjsblazer you going to get one for Christmas?!?

RodsGreen10 12-14-2015 05:50 AM

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Went out this morning turned the key over fired right up. Gotta love that!!

RodsGreen10 12-14-2015 06:50 AM

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Honestly this was about as simple of a install as you could have. Simple install and packed with features and at a affordable price. Why wouldn't you buy one?
Also I saw FiTech is releasing a multi port setup!!

Another thing me being me I like customer support. I like people who actually answer the phone listen and answer your questions. Either on the phone or email. Plus I like a company customer service that will BS a little with you on the phone get more on a personal level. Talking about vehicle and what not. Example of good customer service: I sent Ken a few emails about some setting and for some knowledge about the FiTech and the handheld. Even though he was at PRI the man emailed me back on the weekend!! Will Holley do that nope will MSD do that nope will FAST do that nope. Hell he was even traveling back from PRI to Cali and was emailing me between layovers at the the air port. Now that speaks volumes in my book. Great product Great customer service Great Price! What else can you ask for. This is not over guys I am going to keep posting about it. Good or Bad. But it's all good as of now!!

RodsGreen10 12-14-2015 07:07 AM

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This will never get old haha!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ELk...r#action=share

RodsGreen10 12-14-2015 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by tjsblazer (Post 7409481)
Just watched your video. Great sounding truck! What are you running for exhaust?
Did you end up using the timing control feature or not?

But I am planning on buying a new dizzy. But have not decided on which kind. Idk if I want another HEI or the 2 wire with external coil. HEI I will just hook it up the way I have it but if I get the 2 wire I will let the FiTech control my timing. The only issue I am having is finding a hidden or clean place to mount the external coil. I don't want it on the firewall just does not look good IMO. So at this point idk.

swampbog 12-14-2015 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by RodsGreen10 (Post 7409216)
So far so good. What plumbing info would you like to know?

I was just wondering how you ran the fuel lines to it but I seen the pictures you posted and seen how you did it.

Come this spring I plan on getting one.

I'm a newbie here and the only reason I joined this forum was to subscribe to this thread, so I hope you keep posting on how it's working for you. I joined a few other forums for the same reason even though I don't have the vehicles that those or this forum are for, I'm a Jeep CJ guy. I haven't read a bad thing about FiTech, yet. The only downside I have been hearing is the ECU is theirs and if (big if) they go under you'll be screwed if you have one. Other than that everyone seems to love this thing.
I know Holley is coming out with their Sniper this spring but for me that will be to late for me. I rather it be out for a month or so before I get it so I can see if it has any issues, kinda like how Holley had to do a new revision to their Truck Avenger carbs because of the off-idle stumble.

RodsGreen10 12-14-2015 09:51 AM

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I was just wondering how you ran the fuel lines to it but I seen the pictures you posted and seen how you did it.

Come this spring I plan on getting one.

I'm a newbie here and the only reason I joined this forum was to subscribe to this thread, so I hope you keep posting on how it's working for you. I joined a few other forums for the same reason even though I don't have the vehicles that those or this forum are for, I'm a Jeep CJ guy. I haven't read a bad thing about FiTech, yet. The only downside I have been hearing is the ECU is theirs and if (big if) they go under you'll be screwed if you have one. Other than that everyone seems to love this thing.
I know Holley is coming out with their Sniper this spring but for me that will be to late for me. I rather it be out for a month or so before I get it so I can see if it has any issues, kinda like how Holley had to do a new revision to their Truck Avenger carbs because of the off-idle stumble.

It is all good! It does not matter the Internet and these forums are a major help for people. Good and bad lol. I have not read anything bad about FiTech myself but with saying that they have not been out on the market that long. I know Ken had another venture at this a while back but that company got bought out I read that on the Internet on a forum. I have not read anything bad about FiTech ECU directly cause it hasn't been on the market that long. I like the fact that they make the ECU so they actually know about it. I do know that the ecu mounted in the EFI bodies have had issues in the past mainly MSD I know that for sure. But MSD has got that fixed from what I have been told by my buddy who is in marketing for some of the major players in the go fast game. But like with anything time and technology make things better for all of us. And about them going under I don't see that happening. Hell they have won all kinds of awards at SEMA and PRI. You win at those shows and you are doing something good. Also they are bringing more stuff to market one big one is Multi Port injection. Also if Holley went to all the trouble to make a copy of another companies EFI kit well Holley was worried about it. The only thing I see happening with FiTech is one of the big dawgs trying to buy them out. I also know that they have tested these for over a year before bringing them to market that is not from FiTech that is from another person. So I feel confident that we will not see issues. No user error botched installs that can cause a issue or problem yes I can see that. If I didn't think the was the best on the market or going to cause me issues I wouldn't have wasted $1500 on it plus all the other **** I bought so it would be the way I wanted it. Plus have my wife botch at me cause I bought something else for my truck lol.

lolife99 12-14-2015 10:14 AM

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Can you give a break down on costs, or at least a total cost to switch to EFI?

RodsGreen10 12-14-2015 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by lolife99 (Post 7409712)
Can you give a break down on costs, or at least a total cost to switch to EFI?

Depends on which route you want to go. If you go the way I did.
FiTech EFI 8 $1495 shipped ( they have cheaper)
87 R10 tank "baffled" $94 shipped
87 R10 sending unit $78 shipped
Aeromotive Stealth GM pump $142 shipped (in tank)
Aeromotive Fuel Pump Relay $ 108 shipped (can use a electric fan relay)
-6 An Earls Ultra lite hose 20ft $154 shipped
Fuelab inline Filter $132 shipped
-6 An fittings $97 shipped
Aeroquip fuel hose clamps -6 an and -8 an $20 shipped
New air cleaner base $31 shipped
Various i.e. Heat shrink Butt connectors zip ties heat shrink wrap stuff like that $20

That's it now anyone can get this stuff and do the same!!
It can be done cheaper if you go with FiTech FCC or the inline pump kit they have.

lolife99 12-14-2015 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by RodsGreen10 (Post 7409722)
Depends on which route you want to go. If you go the way I did.
FiTech EFI 8 $1495 shipped ( they have cheaper)
87 R10 tank "baffled" $94 shipped
87 R10 sending unit $78 shipped
Aeromotive Stealth GM pump $142 shipped (in tank)
Aeromotive Fuel Pump Relay $ 108 shipped (can use a electric fan relay)
-6 An Earls Ultra lite hose 20ft $154 shipped
Fuelab inline Filter $132 shipped
-6 An fittings $97 shipped
Aeroquip fuel hose clamps -6 an and -8 an $20 shipped
New air cleaner base $31 shipped
Various i.e. Heat shrink Butt connectors zip ties heat shrink wrap stuff like that $20

That's it now anyone can get this stuff and do the same!!
It can be done cheaper if you go with FiTech FCC or the inline pump kit they have.

Excellent,... thanks for the detailed answer.


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