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KroAutomotiveInc 05-28-2013 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by T2vigil (Post 6094149)
I finally got around to checking the gas mileage and I was very pleased. 102 miles and used 5.46 gallons. Mind you it was never any faster than 55 MPH and never over 2500 RPMs. I guess that justifies my rebuild and I am very pleased.


thats great! what motor is it? my 230 runs 17-20 i've read recently the 250 and especially the 292 are nowhere close to the mpg a 230 can run.

T2vigil 05-28-2013 04:55 PM

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The trick is on the inside. I had it bored over .040 and about .005 to .007 off of the top of the block to clean it up - rusty and about .020 off of the head for the same reason. I ported and polished the head installing a COMP Cam similar to the Mercury Marine cam. finally I used 307 pistons and they are flat top not dished like the 250s are.

TJ's Chevy 05-30-2013 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by KroAutomotiveInc (Post 6094550)
thats great! what motor is it? my 230 runs 17-20 i've read recently the 250 and especially the 292 are nowhere close to the mpg a 230 can run.

Your right about the 292 not gettin near the gas mileage, but when it comes to power look, out cause the 292 smokes them small block 6 cylinders. lol. The stock 292 gets around 15 mpg. When you hook it to a four barrel and ad headers then back it with a 5 speed some say you get around 18 mpg. Not bad, I mean that's better than my dad's 496 big block chevy( A woppin 8 mpg!)

KroAutomotiveInc 05-30-2013 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by T.J. MCCAULEY (Post 6098234)
Your right about the 292 not gettin near the gas mileage, but when it comes to power look, out cause the 292 smokes them small block 6 cylinders. lol. The stock 292 gets around 15 mpg. When you hook it to a four barrel and ad headers then back it with a 5 speed some say you get around 18 mpg. Not bad, I mean that's better than my dad's 496 big block chevy( A woppin 8 mpg!)


yeah for sure the inline 6's will always be better on gas compared to a v8 of any kinda my dad has a 3/4 ton dodge with a 440 that runs 7-8 mpg to lol do you know since the 230 and the 250 are basicly the same can a 230 be bored out to a 292 since a 250 could?

rockdogg2020 05-30-2013 06:36 PM

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chevy_mike 05-31-2013 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by KroAutomotiveInc (Post 6098781)
can a 230 be bored out to a 292 since a 250 could?

No. A 292 is a taller block than the 250/230/194 sizes. 292's are about 1.5" taller due to the longer stroke. The size valley covers are the easiest way to tell the two apart. 292 are more square (tall) looking and the smaller engines are definitely very rectangle is shape (short).

Vernski 05-31-2013 05:39 AM

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KroAutomotiveInc 05-31-2013 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by chevy_mike (Post 6099691)
No. A 292 is a taller block than the 250/230/194 sizes. 292's are about 1.5" taller due to the longer stroke. The size valley covers are the easiest way to tell the two apart. 292 are more square (tall) looking and the smaller engines are definitely very rectangle is shape (short).

ok thanks so it mainly has to do with the stroke that makes the 292 a bigger motor dose the 230 and 250 have the same crank/stroke?

chevy_mike 05-31-2013 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by KroAutomotiveInc (Post 6100122)
ok thanks so it mainly has to do with the stroke that makes the 292 a bigger motor dose the 230 and 250 have the same crank/stroke?

I believe the 194/230/250 have the same stroke, different bore size.

IIRC the 292 has the same bore as the 250 but the longer stroke.

KroAutomotiveInc 05-31-2013 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by chevy_mike (Post 6100165)
I believe the 194/230/250 have the same stroke, different bore size.

IIRC the 292 has the same bore as the 250 but the longer stroke.

awesome thanks for the info i didn't know the difference i figured if went by bore size the hole way.

chevy_mike 05-31-2013 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by KroAutomotiveInc (Post 6100227)
awesome thanks for the info i didn't know the difference i figured if went by bore size the hole way.

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KroAutomotiveInc 05-31-2013 08:22 PM

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thanks yeah all i know is just what i have learned messing around with my 230 never even seen a 292 in person lol.

tommyd241 05-31-2013 10:14 PM

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well it's not completely tricked out yet but I'm gettin there with my new custom stainless headers!
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K5 Addiction 06-08-2013 09:16 PM

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Posted a new vid of my fuel injected, Lump port, Roller Rocker built six running under "The Old Duffer" in the build thread. but here's some pics.

Vernski 06-09-2013 02:22 AM

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Nice & clean I like that color blue, did you install the lump ports yourself or have it sent out? Very purty with the finned covers and what's the skinny on the fuel injection?..Vernski

TJ's Chevy 06-09-2013 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by KroAutomotiveInc (Post 6100996)
thanks yeah all i know is just what i have learned messing around with my 230 never even seen a 292 in person lol.

You can see two 292's at my house!:lol: The 230-292 share the same bore size of 3.875. The 292 has a stroke of 4.125 were as the 230 has a stroke of 3.250. That is quite a difference in size. The gmc 302 has a 4 inch bore and stoke making it the tallest deck 6 cylinder in the gm line. Why? It had 7 inch connecting rods! Thats long! Now think about the bore and stroke of a 900 cubic inch cummins diesel. Whew! Scary! If you were to bore a 230 .125 over it would go to a 245. Ad a .125 over stroke it( i think) would be around a 255. So it still has a long ways to go before it will catch up to the 292. The 292 has a pushrod cover size of 6 inches were as the 194-250 have four inch. Chevy would have been smarter if they did a bigger bore on the 292 instead of the long stroke. Put a gmc 302 up against the chevy 292 and i would bet money that 302 is gonna win every time. Also one more thing, the 292 has a connecting rod length of 6.700 so not to much smaller than the 302 gm.

KroAutomotiveInc 06-09-2013 06:22 PM

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dude thanks for all the info great to know i will probably be rebuilding my 230 before to long and i want to beef her up a bit!

K5 Addiction 06-09-2013 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Vernski (Post 6114569)
Nice & clean I like that color blue, did you install the lump ports yourself or have it sent out? Very purty with the finned covers and what's the skinny on the fuel injection?..Vernski

Thanks Vernski, It's the F.A.S.T. fuel injection setup, Tom Lowe of Autowerks in Iowa built the motor.

TJ's Chevy 06-09-2013 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by KroAutomotiveInc (Post 6115454)
dude thanks for all the info great to know i will probably be rebuilding my 230 before to long and i want to beef her up a bit!

If you want to know about beefing up a 230 I would recommend talking to vernski.

Vernski 06-09-2013 09:18 PM

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Hey guys check out this link and see what you think, this has some info on lump porting..Vernski:metal:

http://12bolt.com/

K5 Addiction 06-09-2013 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Vernski (Post 6115839)
Hey guys check out this link and see what you think, this has some info on lump porting..Vernski:metal:

http://12bolt.com/

Yep this is Tom Lowe's site & he's one of the top Inline guru's around. Built my motor.

Vernski 06-10-2013 01:29 AM

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K-5 ADD what is the model # of your F.A.S.T. fuel injection setup? I was trying to check it out, they so make many different ones I was going:crazy:trying to find maybe the right one thanks..Vernski:lol:

TJ's Chevy 06-10-2013 09:53 AM

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You know were Tom Lowe got all his knowledge from right?

Vernski 06-10-2013 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by T.J. MCCAULEY (Post 6116487)
You know were Tom Lowe got all his knowledge from right?

What info are you privy to about Tom Lowe T.J.?..Vernski :uhmk:

TJ's Chevy 06-10-2013 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Vernski (Post 6116625)
What info are you privy to about Tom Lowe T.J.?..Vernski :uhmk:

Larry Page from t6racing and Kay sissel from Sissel Automotive were the inventers of the lump port. They are the ones who made the mistake of sharing their knowledge because now people like Tom Lowe are doing complete copies of their products and selling them for cheaper. To put it in perspective, TAKING away business and making it look like it was them who made this stuff by giving them different names. The t6g2 lump made by larry page way before tom came about is exactly the same as tom"s premium lump port. Tom even admitted that he did a direct copy and just renamed it! This guy Tom has come in and copied everything that Larry Page and Kay Sissel and all the others who wrote the power manual. I don't see him in the power manual anywhere. Now mind you I am not trying to start a riot. I am just speaking from research. Ya got to watch out for people like him.


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