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Cameron 1137 04-20-2011 07:14 AM

Re: I think I've decided on a build "theme"
 
WOW! Parts look awesome!

PHAT TONY 04-20-2011 04:53 PM

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Oh gosh...another 2wd Blazer build! I can't wait!! Git after it already!

Rochlow 04-21-2011 10:07 AM

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Other than the rockers and lowering a bit more I wouldn't change a thing. I'd put the wiper cowl on, clean the interior, and make sure it was in good working order. Then drive the hell out of it!!!

Guys bend over backwards in search of that kind of weathered look...

99-LS1-SS 04-21-2011 10:23 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochlow (Post 4637421)
Other than the rockers and lowering a bit more I wouldn't change a thing. I'd put the wiper cowl on, clean the interior, and make sure it was in good working order. Then drive the hell out of it!!!

Guys bend over backwards in search of that kind of weathered look...

I understand what you're saying but I don't want the weathered look. I want the factory look with some very subtle modern features.

Rochlow 04-21-2011 10:33 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 99-LS1-SS (Post 4637447)
I understand what you're saying but I don't want the weathered look. I want the factory look with some very subtle modern features.

Well, then.. Game on!!! Looks like a great project to start with..:metal:

99-LS1-SS 04-21-2011 01:49 PM

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Got a buddy to help me take the hood off at lunch. That was the first hurdle. Now I can start removing the fenders, grill, bumper and radiator support.

Crappy cell phone pictures.
http://www.usamls.net/brandon/images...10421-1134.jpg
http://www.usamls.net/brandon/images...10421-1134.jpg

99-LS1-SS 04-21-2011 09:05 PM

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I feel like I didn't get much accomplished tonight. The grill fought me the whole way. I didn't have a 12 point socket or wrench to take the hood latch off so I had to stop and go buy a set.

Here she is without the grill.
http://www.usamls.net/brandon/images/img_3666.jpg

99-LS1-SS 04-22-2011 12:23 PM

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Got the bumper off with the help of 1/2 penetrating oil and my little helper! Apparently, a battery exploded and leaked on everything below it because there are large chunks of the radiator support, battery box and inner fender eaten away below the battery. I'm very glad I have the extra radiator support. I'm getting cleaned up and going to lunch with my helper. I'll post pictures later.

99-LS1-SS 04-22-2011 03:16 PM

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Here it is with the bumper removed. It doesn't look too bad from this far away...
http://www.usamls.net/brandon/images/img_3680.jpg

Battery tray is toast.
http://www.usamls.net/brandon/images/img_3684.jpg

Anyone have a zipper to zip this thing back together?
http://www.usamls.net/brandon/images/img_3686.jpg

I think something is missing.
http://www.usamls.net/brandon/images/img_3688.jpg

72BlckButy 04-22-2011 03:59 PM

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Yikes! That's a just a little bit of rust... :D

71Jimbo 04-23-2011 07:44 AM

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I like it,
I am a few steps behind you on my build, keep it up and good luck

99-LS1-SS 04-23-2011 11:07 AM

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I had a little time to work on the Blazer this morning. My initial thought that the truck had not been wrecked was incorrect. It doesn't have any frame damage that I've seen yet but, it has been wrecked on the front passenger's side. The fender was orange under the green and the door was yellow. The bottom rocker and torsion box have been replaced before. I can't wait to see what fun is under there waiting. I think the only part of this truck that doesn't rust on it is the glove compartment door...

Here are some pictures from this morning.

I managed to get the inner and outer fender as well as the passenger door taken off this morning.
http://www.usamls.net/brandon/images/img_3711.jpg

Is it time for new rotors yet?
http://www.usamls.net/brandon/images/img_3705.jpg

I don't think there are supposed to be this many wrinkles and gaps in this section of the body.
http://www.usamls.net/brandon/images/img_3717.jpg

Doesn't look too awful bad from this angle.
http://www.usamls.net/brandon/images/img_3718.jpg

I sure hope that's surface rust.
http://www.usamls.net/brandon/images/img_3719.jpg

Front of passenger rocker.
http://www.usamls.net/brandon/images/img_3720.jpg

Rear of passenger rocker.
http://www.usamls.net/brandon/images/img_3721.jpg

99-LS1-SS 04-23-2011 06:54 PM

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Got to the driver's side this afternoon.

Rocker and torsion box are really bad. I think I have a rodent of some sort living in the driver's side torsion box. I saw something move through the rust holes and there was a bundle of insulation balled up at one end.

Here's the rocker.
http://www.usamls.net/brandon/images/img_3785.jpg

What is this? It's on the floor right behind the driver's seat.
http://www.usamls.net/brandon/images/img_3783.jpg

Cha Ching! I can sell this and pay for my build!! This was in the glove compartment.
http://www.usamls.net/brandon/images/img_3787.jpg

FRENCHBLUE72 04-23-2011 07:20 PM

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The spring contraption is the jack hold down I do believe..

ol'blu72 04-23-2011 07:21 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochlow (Post 4637421)
Other than the rockers and lowering a bit more I wouldn't change a thing. I'd put the wiper cowl on, clean the interior, and make sure it was in good working order. Then drive the hell out of it!!!

Guys bend over backwards in search of that kind of weathered look...

I totally agree that patina is awsome!!!!!!!!!! fix the rockers and drive as is.

hgs_notes 04-23-2011 07:37 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 99-LS1-SS (Post 4639611)
Got the bumper off with the help of 1/2 penetrating oil and my little helper! Apparently, a battery exploded and leaked on everything below it because there are large chunks of the radiator support, battery box and inner fender eaten away below the battery. I'm very glad I have the extra radiator support. I'm getting cleaned up and going to lunch with my helper. I'll post pictures later.

Trust me, they all look like the battery exploded. That's why it's so hard to find good used passenger side fenders. Looks like a good build. The plan overall is good, but I have a suggestion. Rather than the big block and th-400, you really need to consider the LS swap. Finding a good low mileage engine with the tranny and associated wiring and controls is easy. The swap parts are easy to get, and the cost is way better than you might think. There is a section of the board devoted to it, and several other sites as well, making it fairly straight forward. Better gas milage, comparable power, overdrive and reliability.

BTW, cute kid. And that dog is freaking huge. Have fun with the build. It really looks like a solid starting point.

chevytruckluver 04-23-2011 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by 99-LS1-SS (Post 4641953)
Cha Ching! I can sell this and pay for my build!! This was in the glove compartment.
http://www.usamls.net/brandon/images/img_3787.jpg

dang it I would have bought that from you if it were an 8 track :lol:

99-LS1-SS 04-23-2011 10:20 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hgs_notes (Post 4641998)
Trust me, they all look like the battery exploded. That's why it's so hard to find good used passenger side fenders. Looks like a good build. The plan overall is good, but I have a suggestion. Rather than the big block and th-400, you really need to consider the LS swap. Finding a good low mileage engine with the tranny and associated wiring and controls is easy. The swap parts are easy to get, and the cost is way better than you might think. There is a section of the board devoted to it, and several other sites as well, making it fairly straight forward. Better gas milage, comparable power, overdrive and reliability.

BTW, cute kid. And that dog is freaking huge. Have fun with the build. It really looks like a solid starting point.

I'm worried the swap will be too labor intensive. I want simple and reliable. I'm already going to have to make a big block fit into a small block vehicle. I think adding the computer dimension will be a hassle. I just came from a supercharged LS3 car and before that I had 2 LS1 cars and an LT1 car. I can tune a LS motor with HP Tuners. I'm trying to make this build basic, reliable and fun.

So far, I've seen LS2/3 motors going for $6-8K depending on the mileage. Some come with the controller and some don't. I'm also worried about the transmissions. I don't think the 4L60s are very strong with the amount of power I want to push. I would have to have it beefed up to feel comfortable and that's an extra $1,500 above a stock transmission.

Given the fact that I'm in the very early stages of my build and I'm NO WHERE near ready for an engine, I'm not ruling anything out. I might get a wild hair and change my mind. There would have to be a good deal on a reliable motor and transmission with both modules for me to consider it.

I agree that the gas mileage would be better and I like the lock up converter and overdrive. Eh, we'll see how this all pans out. I'm not going to rush this build because I want to do it right the first time and drive this car for a while.

Thanks for the compliment on my daughter! The dog is a goofy chicken.

hgs_notes 04-23-2011 10:40 PM

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The used market is much cheaper than that. I just looked up one website that priced the engines for 900-1400, and talked to a couple local yards that will pull the engine, tranny and computer for around $2000. Try here:
http://www.lkqcorp.com/index.aspx

The big block will fit easily enough. The 2wd trucks had them as an option for a couple years at least. Original big block motor mounts towers are kind of expensive, but not really required. You can use the small block towers. They can also be moved forward a few inches for more room, there are holes already in the frame. Some guys just hammer the firewall in one spot where clearance is tight to make room and leave the mounts in the rear position.

Since the truck has been stored outside for so long, I recommend cleaning out the kick panel vents as soon as possible. Also might want to pull the back panels off the seats to make sure no rodent nests are there. Check the latest page of my jimmy build to understand why.

VA72C10 04-23-2011 11:11 PM

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I'll agree on the LS being an affordable option and also in addition to the mounts available you can use 73-up mounts which are plentiful (cheap)and work well and have specific engine side LS mounts available. just require one extra hole drilled in our frames to work. And that allows you to move the engine back forward.

There is an LS2 on another forum right now for 3K. has 42K miles, new polished intake, valve covers, ceramic headers, a NEW wiring harness made to use in our applications, and the auto tranny with it... (about 2K worth just in the new parts)

...think that one is sold but there are a lot of good deals out there!

99-LS1-SS 04-24-2011 07:41 AM

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Guys, the one thing about this build, for me, is that I want to this truck to be damn near brand new. I don't want the potential time bomb of an engine and/or transmission when I don't know if someone has taken care of them as well as they should have. I am OCD about vehicle maintenance. Any engine and transmission I get will either be brand new or have very low miles on it. I hope this doesn't sound like a crappy comment but, if I'm going to strip this truck down to the frame and replace every bolt on it, it doesn't make sense, to me, to put a (potentially) worn out motor and/or transmission in it.

Like I said in the previous post, nothing is ruled out at this point. I'll be honest, you guys have got me thinking about and looking into the LS motors. I'm a big fan of LS motors.

99-LS1-SS 04-24-2011 05:13 PM

Re: I think I've decided on a build "theme"
 
I took more stuff off today. The more I take off of this truck the worse it gets. The entire floorboard is buckled and it has 2 spots that are rotted through.

The parts that concern me are on the post that the door hinges mount to. Can or should these be patched? Is this truck too far gone?

Here's some pictures of both sides.

http://www.usamls.net/brandon/images/img_3838.jpg
http://www.usamls.net/brandon/images/img_3839.jpg
http://www.usamls.net/brandon/images/img_3852.jpg
http://www.usamls.net/brandon/images/img_3853.jpg

VA72C10 04-24-2011 05:48 PM

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People have definitely started with worse, but if you're not worried about using non-original pieces, a 4wd tub can generally be found rust free and for 1200-2000 shipped to you from out west....maybe even less. It actually is better to find a roller that's cheaper to transport. Might be able to find one for 800-1000 and pay 4-600 to get it shipped if you can catch a transport on uship.com or similar....

Like I said, you can always just get patches (from a vehicle out west or new repro) but if you're not concerned with the originality, you'll probably come out ahead money wise and most definitely time wise by starting with a better tub.

IMHO ;)

It's always more fun to spend other's money...but in this case I think I'd be saving it...

99-LS1-SS 04-24-2011 06:09 PM

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Given my newness to this body style and community, I haven't had much luck finding a tub or roller. Where is a good place to start. Originality is second to no rust and functionality.

FRENCHBLUE72 04-24-2011 07:43 PM

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Windshield fram looks a little rusty but it can be fixed. Find a truck cab and graft on the frame pieces you need. May also wanna try to get ahold of randy aka teeitup he usually has those parts ..


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