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87Lowrider 05-27-2008 08:14 PM

Re: Prepping for a BBC conversion
 
Just about ready for the road.

Installed Electic fan from previous thread... adapted it to the factory shroud. Works great.
http://www.a2zcs.com/files/881.jpg

http://www.a2zcs.com/files/887.jpg

A few more steps before she's road worthy, and then, off to the paint booth for Hot Rod Black.

andresco50 05-27-2008 10:10 PM

Re: Prepping for a BBC conversion
 
Good job man looks awesome congrats!!! upload a video to listen that
monster

87Lowrider 05-28-2008 04:49 AM

Re: Prepping for a BBC conversion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by andresco50 (Post 2739575)
Good job man looks awesome congrats!!! upload a video to listen that
monster

Thanks - Going to the muffler shop this week, afterwards, I'll post a video of the engine running.

Kenny

joeymarkgraf 05-28-2008 08:11 AM

Re: Prepping for a BBC conversion
 
Nice work, can't wait to see the video!

84 400 05-28-2008 05:49 PM

Re: Prepping for a BBC conversion
 
that is turning out real good.

87Lowrider 06-13-2008 09:49 PM

Re: Prepping for a BBC conversion
 
Finally,

After much anticipation, I got the lowrider out for her maiden voyage! (Just around the block) :metal:

Motor sounds great... still need exhaust though but, gosh, what a strong sounding motor to be just over stock. The Comp Cams XE cam is really thumpin'.

I believe the rockers are a bit too tight cause I've got a wicked squeal. I backed them off a 1/4 turn to get the oil flowing and help the squeal but I think I need to go a little bit further. Gonna do that tomorrow and pull it in my neighbors garage for sanding and RAT ROD Black paint.

I'll post a vid of the motor running when I get the bugs worked out. Can't wait to get her out to a cruiz-in. /Ken

87Lowrider 06-15-2008 03:50 PM

Re: Prepping for a BBC conversion
 
Here's a short little vid of the engine running.


Here's the engine after I installed new accessories on it:
http://www.a2zcs.com/files/972.jpg

Here's the dash after I installed the new cluster
http://www.a2zcs.com/files/995.jpg


Ken

87Lowrider 08-24-2008 09:49 PM

Re: Prepping for a BBC conversion
 
I can't seem to keep the engine cool. I have the original BBC radiator in the truck. I put a 165 degree thermostat in to keep the engine a bit cooler than 200 - 205 degrees when cruizing around. Today, I noticed a leak coming from the radiator in the area of a seam.

I'm thinking of replacing the radiator with one of those "Be Cool" kits with the fans already included. They advertise about 40 degree drop in temp over stock.

Their specs also say the radiator is a "Dual Core" radiator... I thought BBC's all were kept cooler with 4 core radiators... did something change?

Anyone have any thoughs on 'em??

Thanks!


Kenny

Alex1 08-25-2008 09:45 AM

Re: Prepping for a BBC conversion
 
The BeCools are much bettehr than the factory 4 core. More cores do not necessarily mean better cooling. Also I wouls look at that electric fan -I'm a firm beleiver that you need an honest 4000+ cfm outfit to 'em down.

Captkaos 08-25-2008 11:18 AM

Re: Prepping for a BBC conversion
 
Be Cool uses Aluminum radiators, their I believe is 1" aluminum cores which are more efficient than the traditional 4 core. My only thoughts are they are expensive.

I just picked up a Proliance 2 row aluminum for my 87 that went bad. I got it a lot larger since it is going to receive the 6.0L transplant. It required mods to the brackets to make it fit which I plan to make some new ones later, and the factory shroud won't fit, but I plan to order a Flex-a-lite or Perma-Cool electric setup for it. It was $170 locally. It is aluminum with plastic tanks.

87Lowrider 08-26-2008 10:10 PM

Re: Prepping for a BBC conversion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Captkaos (Post 2862944)
Be Cool uses Aluminum radiators, their I believe is 1" aluminum cores which are more efficient than the traditional 4 core. My only thoughts are they are expensive.

I just picked up a Proliance 2 row aluminum for my 87 that went bad. I got it a lot larger since it is going to receive the 6.0L transplant. It required mods to the brackets to make it fit which I plan to make some new ones later, and the factory shroud won't fit, but I plan to order a Flex-a-lite or Perma-Cool electric setup for it. It was $170 locally. It is aluminum with plastic tanks.

Are you dryin' out down there yet?

Today, I ordered the BeCool 62013. It's a dual row aluminum one. No fans yet since I have that big honkin' electric fan on there already... I may have to order the fan kit for it cause I don't know if it pulls the over 4000 cfm mentioned earlier or get that Flex-a-lite or Perma-Cool setup myself. That's a bunch cheaper than the BeCool fan setup.

Kenny

Captkaos 08-26-2008 11:18 PM

Re: Prepping for a BBC conversion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 87Lowrider (Post 2865163)
Are you dryin' out down there yet?

Hahahaha. Not yet. It pretty much has been raining CONSTANTLY since Friday of last week. I really wish it would stop.

I am either going to buy one of those listed, or build my own. If I can make them easy enough so they bolt in, I may start selling them.

I don't have any feedback on the Perma-Cools, but they mount in the factory holes, which I like, and they move 5900cfm..

87Lowrider 08-30-2008 06:24 PM

Re: Prepping for a BBC conversion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Captkaos (Post 2865288)
Hahahaha. Not yet. It pretty much has been raining CONSTANTLY since Friday of last week. I really wish it would stop.

I am either going to buy one of those listed, or build my own. If I can make them easy enough so they bolt in, I may start selling them.

I don't have any feedback on the Perma-Cools, but they mount in the factory holes, which I like, and they move 5900cfm..

We came through bham Friday on the way to pensacola... we're down here for the weekend enjoying the beach and the holiday off!

Here's a pic from my iphone
http://www.a2zcs.com/files/pbch.jpg

When I get back next week, the radiator is waiting for me. The truck is at the shop with a newly rebuilt TH400 in it.
http://www.a2zcs.com/files/th400ds.jpg
I'll pick it up when I get back and put the radiator in and try my fan... if it doesn't cool well enough, I'll get one of those perma-cools or maybe the overpriced be-cool fan kit. I don't think it pulls more than 2500cfm though.

Kenny

Captkaos 09-02-2008 12:18 PM

Re: Prepping for a BBC conversion
 
And you didn't drop by? :( Look pretty calm from the pic.

The Flex-a-lite is 4900 cfm' and variable speed.

chevy2ss 09-02-2008 10:32 PM

Re: Prepping for a BBC conversion
 
New guy here but before you spend all that money on an expensive fan...get a fan out of a 3.8 liter ford taurus. It has to be out of a 3.8 tho. Hook it up to the high side only and you won't have any cooling issues.

87Lowrider 09-03-2008 12:04 PM

Re: Prepping for a BBC conversion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Captkaos (Post 2873297)
And you didn't drop by? :( Look pretty calm from the pic.

The Flex-a-lite is 4900 cfm' and variable speed.

We were stuck in all of that "panic" traffic all the way through montgomery and into Bham. I didn't even think of it. Man, those people from LA, MS and "Some" from AL sure can't drive. :)

We left out Monday morning right after they closed the beaches in Pensacola. It was getting pretty nasty. Sounds like it's gonna be a very active Sept for you guys.

If my fan and shroud won't adapt, do you sell all the brackets, shrouds, etc.. to get it put on that be-cool radiator?

Kenny

87Lowrider 09-03-2008 07:43 PM

Re: Prepping for a BBC conversion
 
Well, here's the radiator. It's a Be-Cool that I got from Summit.

http://www.a2zcs.com/files/1084.jpg

Is it necessary to put some type of additive in it or the normal antifreeze / water combo ok? Be cool recommended some type of snake oil with the purchase but I'm a sceptic.


Kenny

d10s69c10 09-03-2008 08:12 PM

Re: Prepping for a BBC conversion
 
looks Awesome.. love the transformation. engine looks amazing dash really looks great also. hope all keeps going well.

87Lowrider 09-03-2008 08:27 PM

Re: Prepping for a BBC conversion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by chevy2ss (Post 2874255)
New guy here but before you spend all that money on an expensive fan...get a fan out of a 3.8 liter ford taurus. It has to be out of a 3.8 tho. Hook it up to the high side only and you won't have any cooling issues.

A while back, I was reading one of the threads here and someone had came up with an idea to install a Chrysler fan from a Jeep from a recall.

I'd have to find the thread, but the short of it was that it would mount to the factory shroud, which it did, and if you added a thermo relay it would work great. So, I did it. Problem was, the radiator leaks and won't cool properly so I never really got to see if the fan worked.

If everything mounts up to this be-cool, and works, I'll be good, if not, I'll have to find another fan solution.


Kenny

87Lowrider 09-03-2008 08:29 PM

Re: Prepping for a BBC conversion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by d10s69c10 (Post 2875414)
looks Awesome.. love the transformation. engine looks amazing dash really looks great also. hope all keeps going well.

Thank you! - Now, if I could only start driving it and enjoying it... I may bring it back to Pensacola in the spring!!!

ROAD TRIP!

Kenny

Captkaos 09-05-2008 11:51 AM

Re: Prepping for a BBC conversion
 
No biggie, just giving you are hard time... And yeah, people in Alabama can't drive. If it was really raining, it would be worthwhile to bypass AL altogether... :D

I don't look forward to this season at all...

If it is the be-cool replacement and it is the same size as you existing, all you original stuff should fit.

Right now I don't have any of the pieces but some guys on my forum are requesting we design/build/sell a drop in electric fan solution for the 73-87's.


Quote:

Originally Posted by 87Lowrider (Post 2874818)
We were stuck in all of that "panic" traffic all the way through montgomery and into Bham. I didn't even think of it. Man, those people from LA, MS and "Some" from AL sure can't drive. :)

We left out Monday morning right after they closed the beaches in Pensacola. It was getting pretty nasty. Sounds like it's gonna be a very active Sept for you guys.

If my fan and shroud won't adapt, do you sell all the brackets, shrouds, etc.. to get it put on that be-cool radiator?

Kenny


87Lowrider 09-05-2008 01:56 PM

Re: Prepping for a BBC conversion
 
I have it home today... letting it cool down a bit before I start pulling out the radiator. I'll let you know how it goes.

Thanks!

87Lowrider 09-05-2008 07:16 PM

Re: Prepping for a BBC conversion
 
OK.. I got the old radiator out and the new one mocked up.

http://www.a2zcs.com/files/1089.jpg

I used the standard upper brackets for the original 350 that was in the truck before I switched out the original radiator for the radiator that came wth the 454. They mounted perfectly to the tops of the radiator. To get the radiator mounted flush to the support, I had to remove 2 screws that hold the top of the AC condensor in place. It's still secure though.

http://www.a2zcs.com/files/1090.jpg

Problem was, my existing electric fan wouldn't fit snug enough to the radiator to funnel the air flow correctly without pulling it in from the sides and top so I ordered the Flex a Lite dual fan (220) dual 12" pullers rated at 2600 cfm. They only need 2.6" of clearance and I have about 6" so I'm good. Hopefully that will be enough to keep her cool. I already have the relay in place to control fan operations.

http://www.a2zcs.com/files/flx220.jpg

COMP 09-05-2008 07:26 PM

Re: Prepping for a BBC conversion
 
looking great Kenny

SSC's76 09-05-2008 07:50 PM

Re: Prepping for a BBC conversion
 
Looks killer!


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