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Originally Posted by joedoh (Post 8864056)

youre definitely the exception then. I would bet that your (and your neighbors) requirements preclude you from driving most of all the cars produced, not just EVs.

it doesnt make your opinions less valid, but thats the reason automakers make different cars and trucks, to try and capture the whole market.

Finally, everything we own (well, except for the old broke down classic pickup) is a four wheel drive. It just doesn't make sense to own a car that you can't drive more than half the year, and might not be able to get back home from town because it rained the other half of the year.

I'm actually glad the city folks are buying those electric toy cars because then they won't have the range to drive out where I live :lol:

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Originally Posted by 57taskforce (Post 8864123)

Yes sir. I know exactly what you mean. It’s something that unless you've lived it you can’t comprehend it. We were 72 miles from the nearest reasonable town up until about 8 years ago. I average 40-50k a year on my company truck driving within about a 200 mile radius. There’s no way an EV would ever cut it in my line of work currently. You very very rarely ever see a Tesla here or even a bolt or similar for that matter for that very reason. I’ve never even seen a charging station here.

We don't really drive all that much but when we do it is to go some distance. Even before I retired, I worked from home most of the time - and the rest of the time I would have to be driven to the airport to fly somewhere and work for a few weeks. I'm glad that I'm done with that crap! :)

But our kids and grandkids live almost 2000 miles away :( We got the pickup and camper shell so we can drive and sleep wherever along the way.

Now - it would be great I suppose if our jeep was electric because we mostly just drive it around the property. But I'm never going to live long enough to pay off that sort of investment.

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Originally Posted by MikeB (Post 8864139)

Ever drive a Tesla, anyone? I drove a friend's Model S with two motors and 4WD. I have to say it was scary fast. 0-60 in 2.3 seconds! Flat and monstrous torque curve from dead stop to >160 mph, not that I went that fast. Absolutely insane! Also had a luxury feel to the ride and handling, something like an Audi or BMW.

That said, the sticker price of over $100K is ridiculous. (My friend leased it for $900-something/mo.) And depreciation is probably worse than a Pontiac Aztec. Also, I did not like the 17" display in the middle of the dash. So much information on it you'd run off the road trying to read it. But at least it has a traditional instrument cluster behind the steering wheel. But, heck, the smaller Model 3 has ALL the information on the center display, even road speed.

As for range, all EVs seem to be getting better every year, but it will probably be decades before they get up to 750 miles, which is what I typically drive when on a trip from Texas to snow country. If infrastructure doesn't keep up with EV sales, we will soon be seeing long lines at charging stations in town and on highways.

A Tesla would be about as much use to me as a Corvette :lol:

We have two 4x4 pickups, a 4Runner, and a Jeep ;)

I am a complete exception in that I put anywhere from 30,000-40,000 miles per year on a vehicle. I do engineered sales and service and have filled up my tank twice in a day very often. EV would be totally impractical for me. Also, everyone doesn't live in the suburbs although the majority does.

It's sort of a shell game to me at this point. People are starting to "get" the electrical grid and power drawback but still don't hear near enough about the total environmental impact of the batteries from mining to grave.

I think EV's are great and are getting better all the time but they are not to the planet saver status with me just yet. You need to be selling a ton of them at a $20K price point to make this make sense.

As said, not practical for everyone yet. These will likely never be intended for much long highway use.
Such is the same for natural gas medium duty and heavy trucks. Currently municipalities and others using ng powered trucks operate in a roughly 100 mile radius mainly due to limited refueling locations. It will take time to extend the nominal operating range of alternate fuel vehicles.
As far as the cost of ev, for sure they take into account the consumer's fuel savings $ at the pump when calculating the prices of their vehicles. The money you would spend on gas you can now spend on a ev. ;)

Elon Musk's plan I have heard is that you would drive into a bay a machine would remove the battery pack and replace it with freshly topped off batteries . Take about 10 minutes and your on your way again

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Originally Posted by Boog (Post 8864173)

One thing that some states are already picking up on is gasoline taxes. Almost every state bases their road repair budget on gasoline tax and many are now charging extra $$ for EV vehicle tags. I would bet the more EV's on the road, the less gasoline sold, the more EV tags will go up. You may be feeling virtuous driving the EV but you sure ain't gonna be saving any money doing it.

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Originally Posted by Boog (Post 8864173)

Yeah so why are electric cars made like road racers ????

It doesn't cost anything to plug in your car to an electric outlet ?????

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Originally Posted by Boog (Post 8864173)

As said, not practical for everyone yet. These will likely never be intended for much long highway use.

i had a form of this discussion with my brother years ago. he was looking for a 3/4 ton long bed extended cab GMT400 so he could haul his enclosed trailers. i asked him why? he never used the enclosed trailers except once or twice a year and the other 364 days he would be hating life trying to park that behemoth and spending 12mpg unloaded tanks of fuel. a much better idea would be to buy something fuel efficient and drive THAT 364 days and when he needed to move his trailers go rent a van from budget, i did the math and he would be able to pay the fuel efficient whatevermobile off in 2 years instead of the 5 year loan on the gmt400.

so if you only take two trips a year on the highway, rent a camry or splurge on a suburban with their 44 gal bladder buster tanks, and go 4-5-600 miles between fillups and when you get home drive your 58 miles a day in the EV.

but, just like my brother just WANTED a huge truck (moving the trailers was a red herring), people who want EVs just want them, and people who dont just dont. either way is fine, no one really cares what you spend your money on, living 100 miles out of town, buying 100k EVs, literally no one cares. :lol::lol::lol: dowhatchoolike.

Except "they" want to force us to drive some sort of little electric thing, or not drive at all since there won't be enough juice to charge it anyway.

I am hoping with the introduction of these EV we can get back to making cool looking cars instead of cars that look like eggs for the sake of fuel mileage. I understand that the more aerodynamic your car is the further range you'll get out of a car, but what if this means that they can start making bodies that they otherwise wouldn't be able to. I know this is just a pipe dream but let me have my fantasy lol.