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Advanced Design 08-14-2015 09:10 AM

Re: 68 Burb - Project - GoldMember
 
Well that was fast. Looking really good!

GAc10boy 08-14-2015 09:25 AM

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Sweet!

goldenburb 08-16-2015 10:52 PM

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Looking good,
lmk how the bags work out for ya. I did mine with 2.5 spindles 4 yrs age and it rides like CRAP.

Newtz67 08-17-2015 12:11 AM

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Subscribed to this one!

Twisted78SS 08-17-2015 01:15 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Advanced Design (Post 7273621)
Well that was fast. Looking really good!

Thanks! Had to get a sneak peek since I was going to be gone all weekend.. The fender is simply sitting there.. Hope to get back on it for awhile tonight.

Quote:

Originally Posted by GAc10boy (Post 7273630)
Sweet!

Thanks, I'm digging it so far..

Quote:

Originally Posted by goldenburb (Post 7275876)
Looking good,
lmk how the bags work out for ya. I did mine with 2.5 spindles 4 yrs age and it rides like CRAP.

Really? I sure hope it all works out, of course I can switch over to a static drop, but I would prefer not to. I'll be adding Accuair to this as it goes back together, maybe that will provide some benefit..
I'm interested to hear more about your setup..


Quote:

Originally Posted by Newtz67 (Post 7275953)
Subscribed to this one!

Great!, thanks for following along..

Here are a couple more shots I took on Thursday night before I left, figured I would post them to keep the history/progress consistent.

Top down
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5757/...52f82ae6_z.jpg

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5755/...ba667050_z.jpg https://farm1.staticflickr.com/708/2...b73a4c82_z.jpg

Now you can sort of tell just how much the back needs to come down.. lol
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5786/...d5b8956e_z.jpg

Twisted78SS 08-20-2015 12:50 PM

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Long weekend of driving, (dropped my daughter off at college) was about 700 miles round trip, then work got in the way as soon as I returned, so no shop time till last night.
I spent most of my time on the tedious stuff, cleaning and painting a bunch of brackets and prepping the power steering box.. I did manage to dig out the rear axle and test fit the disc brakes.. I originally rebuilt this for my sons 68, but since he is headed down the LS path, he snagged my bulletproof custom Dana 60 for his..
I had this together once before, and it still look like this.


https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3687/...834ac29d_z.jpg https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7370/...08cefa15_z.jpg
https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3803/...71a275a8_z.jpg https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2807/...88ceaaae_z.jpg

I also put the last skim coat on the patch around the heater box, will see if I can finish that tonight and paint the firewall...
Mocked in the front sway bar as I was trying to decide if I need dropped front brackets or not.. I think it might be a good idea, so off come a few more rivets tonight. Last step for the night was adding upper shock re-locators, but I forgot to take pics of them.. They are from POL (Performance Online)

Got a much anticipated pair of boxes in the mail too, ....
I am diving into this one head first, as I ordered a FiTech fuel system..
As they are fairly new just launching their products, you have may not heard of them. Its a bunch of engineers who have been making fuel injection components/systems for the OEM, branching out and trying to help out the aftermarket guys like us.
Here is their site http://fitechefi.com/ and some videos that show the product..
I will do my best to create a video of the installation from start to finish when the time comes..
I got the Go EFI 4
and the Fuel Command Center

Can't wait to get to this point!! :cf:
of course, lots to do yet...

Advanced Design 08-20-2015 01:56 PM

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Fitech has some good ideas and very competitive prices. The fuel command center could have possibilities for other uses too. Haven't heard of them before so a cool find. Thanks for sharing!

Where did the rear brackets, caliper and disc come from? Does that have a parking brake?
Appreciate the updates.

Twisted78SS 08-20-2015 02:27 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Advanced Design (Post 7279748)
Fitech has some good ideas and very competitive prices. The fuel command center could have possibilities for other uses too. Haven't heard of them before so a cool find. Thanks for sharing!

Where did the rear brackets, caliper and disc come from? Does that have a parking brake?
Appreciate the updates.

The brackets are from Captainfab for the D52 caliper
The calipers are from a 78 Eldarado - The A1 Cardone part numbers for these are 16-4116 and 16-4117. Those are loaded calipers. (I scored them on Evilbay awhile back) they have the emergency brake setup which use the tabs Captainfab makes in the last pic.

The rotors are from the local parts store, they are for '92-'02 Astro AWD Van.
Lots of good info in his thread to assist with the conversion.

GAc10boy 08-20-2015 02:32 PM

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Very nice. I really like the EFI stuff. Looks very nice and, as AD said, competitively priced. How did you find out about them?

Advanced Design 08-20-2015 02:33 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Twisted78SS (Post 7279781)
The brackets are from Captainfab for the D52 caliper
The calipers are from a 78 Eldarado - The A1 Cardone part numbers for these are 16-4116 and 16-4117. Those are loaded calipers. (I scored them on Evilbay awhile back) they have the emergency brake setup which use the tabs Captainfab makes in the last pic.

The rotors are from the local parts store, they are for '92-'02 Astro AWD Van.
Lots of good info in his thread to assist with the conversion.

Thank you!

Twisted78SS 08-20-2015 05:51 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GAc10boy (Post 7279786)
Very nice. I really like the EFI stuff. Looks very nice and, as AD said, competitively priced. How did you find out about them?

I was doing some research online one night, and I think I stumbled on them via another web forum that had a link to them on YouTube. From there I went in search of more info and reviews. While they have not been around along time, the 19 or so engineers that developed the product must have considerable time all together. It may be a risk, who knows but I have done the FAST EZefi on my sons Blazer, and while I like it, i am drawn to the idea of less wiring, boost capable out of the box, and certainly the command center idea is nice if you don't want to run a frame mounted pump or mod an existing gas tank..

When I spoke with them, they are interested to have me document the install for their website.. that would be cool!


Quote:

Originally Posted by Advanced Design (Post 7279789)
Thank you!

Certainly, I was poking around for my logbook to get some more info for you, I found a Wagner number for one of the calipers is CR116349
Didn't find the part number I used for the rotors..

Once I get this installed under the Burb, I will have to make some tabs for the brake lines, of course I'll take some pics to share..

Advanced Design 08-20-2015 07:53 PM

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Appreciate that Twisted! I need to improve the stopping power of our 72 Burb and am looking at different options. I believe that style of caliper is on the rear of my 56. While it stops ok, the ratchet style adjustment on mine aren't precise enough. The left rear is a bit too loose and one click tighter is too tight.

Don't know if these operate the same.

Twisted78SS 08-21-2015 11:31 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Advanced Design (Post 7280102)
Appreciate that Twisted! I need to improve the stopping power of our 72 Burb and am looking at different options. I believe that style of caliper is on the rear of my 56. While it stops ok, the ratchet style adjustment on mine aren't precise enough. The left rear is a bit too loose and one click tighter is too tight.

Don't know if these operate the same.

Hmmm,
not sure about these, they seems to rotate fairly easily, i will install the brackets and do some non-scientific tests over the weekend to see how they act / feel. Of course no real idea until they are in-service. Thanks for the heads up, will make note of it for sure.

notchbackgta 08-21-2015 03:37 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Twisted78SS (Post 7279671)

Do you know the size and pitch on that nut for the E-brake lever? I bought calipers without brackets (doh) but then I found someone that sells the brackets and springs, so I have those now, but I dont know what the nut size and pitch is, though I haven't looked at it too hard to figure it out. Just wondering if you knew.

71chevswb 08-21-2015 09:49 PM

Re: 68 Burb - Project - GoldMember
 
What do you use to clean your parts to quickly and perfectly?

3drburb 08-23-2015 12:32 AM

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Very nice rig. That is one of my favorite all time color, keep up the awesome work.

Twisted78SS 08-24-2015 12:39 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 71chevswb (Post 7281160)
What do you use to clean your parts to quickly and perfectly?

I typically start with a scraper to remove the big chunky stuff.. If degreasing is needed, then it is either done with a pressure washer (never seems to be the case for me :lol:) or more typical, is the slow and tedious manner of spray, wipe, spray, wipe with some sort of degreaser and shop towels. I came across a product called Key Super Degreaser (see description below) which really speeds up this process.
After things are clean, I usually take a grinder with a wire wheel and give it a once over, or I use a flap disk if I need to smooth or remove any rough areas. Depending on conditions, I use the wire wheel before doing any wipe down as it does take off a ton of crap/crud on its own.
For final prep I use a wax and grease remover or Eastwood ‘pre’ cleaner.
I try and do at least two coats of primer followed by 2 or 3 coats of paint. I am really liking satin black, although I do like the look of Eastwood under hood black to.
Key Super Degreaser
“cuts through heavy concentrations of grease, dirt, oil and non-water soluble
contaminants. Perfect for engine and driveline degreasing as well as heavy grease industrial applications.
Works well to remove grease from tractors, forklifts and hydraulic equipment”


Quote:

Originally Posted by 3drburb (Post 7282042)
Very nice rig. That is one of my favorite all time color, keep up the awesome work.

Thanks 3drburb!
I was initially drawn to this because of the color, it has really grown on me to the point I am considering it for my 67 K10 SWB too.


Quote:

Originally Posted by notchbackgta (Post 7280895)
Do you know the size and pitch on that nut for the E-brake lever? I bought calipers without brackets (doh) but then I found someone that sells the brackets and springs, so I have those now, but I dont know what the nut size and pitch is, though I haven't looked at it too hard to figure it out. Just wondering if you knew.

Off the top of my head I don’t, but I am happy to take a look tonight and get that info for you.

Twisted78SS 08-24-2015 12:52 PM

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Well, the weekend did not unfold as I had hoped, but on the positive side, I did spend some quality time alone with the wife.. Always good to keep them happy...

I did manage to take care of a few small items though.
  • Installed the front shock mounts and shocks
  • since the frame is not dimpled for power steering, I used an adapter bracket from Captainfab
  • Removed the old exhaust
  • Cleaned the frame rails back to the trailing arm cross-member so I can run new brake,fuel, and air lines for the Accuair
  • Scuffed and painted the Hydroboost & booster adapter brackets
  • Installed new outer tie rods, inner were done previously

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/737/2...2293ce8b_z.jpg

Short list I know, but it happens.. will keep the pressure on as best I can

GAc10boy 08-24-2015 01:29 PM

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Looks like great progress to me!

Twisted78SS 08-24-2015 05:20 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GAc10boy (Post 7286162)
Looks like great progress to me!

Thanks,
It seems to be going slow, although compared to my other projects it's screaming :lol:!!

Twisted78SS 08-24-2015 05:29 PM

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Ok,
these might be a bit premature and out of sequence on the build, but while at lunch today I decided not to go for a bike ride and instead take a few pics UN-boxing the Fitech system.

First impression:
Really quality looking parts and packaged well. After putting an Fast EZ-EFI on my sons Blazer, this one look even "easier"..
Enjoy.

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5830/...1cf4a64e_z.jpg https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5726/...d256f9fa_z.jpg
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5808/...fefc343c_z.jpg https://farm1.staticflickr.com/746/2...1b66b999_z.jpg
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5752/...de5596a1_z.jpg

I also opted for the Command Center on this go round.. I can see multiple uses for something like this..

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5646/...dde7898d_z.jpg https://farm1.staticflickr.com/723/2...c3e401cf_z.jpg
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/745/2...a4fcee1b_z.jpg

Advanced Design 08-24-2015 09:31 PM

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Thanks for sharing the parts. I agree about the command center usefullness too. Likely handy for LS swaps.
Will be interested on your take of Fitech vs FAST.
The front end looks really good too!

GAc10boy 08-24-2015 11:16 PM

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Parts look killer! Definitely interested to hear your feedback as you work toward installing it all.

Twisted78SS 08-25-2015 11:15 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Advanced Design (Post 7286746)
Thanks for sharing the parts. I agree about the command center usefullness too. Likely handy for LS swaps.
Will be interested on your take of Fitech vs FAST.
The front end looks really good too!

Thanks AD,
I am excited to say the least.. I was thinking last night, I could easily enough setup the engine and the system on a break in stand and pre-run everything. I think with this setup, it would actually be easy enough to create the final install hose lengths, and wiring layout on a temp stand to break in a cam and validate no leaks etc... then transfer it to its final location without to much fuss. May have to try that out
Almost have the front complete, a couple cotter pins and the sway bar.

Quote:

Originally Posted by GAc10boy (Post 7286896)
Parts look killer! Definitely interested to hear your feedback as you work toward installing it all.

Thanks,
plan is to setup the Go Pro and shoot some of the install.. We'll see how that turns out :D

Twisted78SS 08-27-2015 10:50 AM

Re: 68 Burb - Project - GoldMember
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by notchbackgta (Post 7280895)
Do you know the size and pitch on that nut for the E-brake lever? I bought calipers without brackets (doh) but then I found someone that sells the brackets and springs, so I have those now, but I dont know what the nut size and pitch is, though I haven't looked at it too hard to figure it out. Just wondering if you knew.

Notchbackgta,
Sorry for the delay in responding, but I'll be damned, I found my brackets, but cannot find the lock nuts anywhere.. I am sure they are in a bag inside a box on one of the shelves, but so far no joy!

Figures, as soon as you want something, it decides to hide out.
I'll keep looking as I am going to need them pretty soon!

Twisted78SS 08-27-2015 10:54 AM

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Continued some work on GoldMember..

Moving to the rear, I began to disassemble the rear axle in prep for the C-Notch.. Well, Guess they don't make sockets as good as the old days, with a short breaker bar I ended up with these..
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5709/...4711051c_z.jpg

So out came the sawzall and plasma.
went from this:to this:
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5679/...6344cced_z.jpg https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5644/...e3b8afdd_z.jpg
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5761/...f19bec12_z.jpg

continued on attacking the rivets.. Man I hate Rivets!!
started with the bumpstop
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5824/...1de822cd_z.jpg

I ended the day after getting the passenger side mocked in. I only need to finish drilling a couple mounting holes, and painting all areas that will be inaccessible.
Forgot to get pics after I started on the rivets.. I have I mentioned how much I hate Rivets!! Especially the ones I couldn't get the grinder on..

notchbackgta 08-27-2015 11:23 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Twisted78SS (Post 7289463)
Notchbackgta,
Sorry for the delay in responding, but I'll be damned, I found my brackets, but cannot find the lock nuts anywhere.. I am sure they are in a bag inside a box on one of the shelves, but so far no joy!

Figures, as soon as you want something, it decides to hide out.
I'll keep looking as I am going to need them pretty soon!

No worries. I am not that far along yet anyway.

I actually have so many parts around the house for 3-4 projects I lose them in the house all the time! Sometimes I look for hours to not find it and then have to go on to something else. But I usually find something I was looking for and earlier project, lol

Twisted78SS 08-27-2015 05:05 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by notchbackgta (Post 7289490)
No worries. I am not that far along yet anyway.

I actually have so many parts around the house for 3-4 projects I lose them in the house all the time! Sometimes I look for hours to not find it and then have to go on to something else. But I usually find something I was looking for and earlier project, lol

Now that sounds all to familiar :lol::lol:

Even though mine are all in the same shop, it's always a gamble whether or not they hide upstairs or down. Usually I think I am being good when I dedicate a shelf for a project, bag things, walk them upstairs and drop them on the right shelf. somehow that only lasts for a week or two. then the mixing magically begins.

Mr. D 08-28-2015 06:25 PM

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Twisted:
Are you using dropped spindles and bags, or just running with the stock spindles with your AccuAir kit?

Twisted78SS 08-30-2015 03:44 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. D (Post 7290865)
Twisted:
Are you using dropped spindles and bags, or just running with the stock spindles with your AccuAir kit?

Hey Mr. D

I'm running dropped spindles and bags. I've got upper plates and stock upper a-arms, and Ride Tech tubular lower control arms.

goldenburb 08-30-2015 04:38 PM

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What interior are you going with? Use this. lol

Twisted78SS 08-31-2015 01:42 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by goldenburb (Post 7292712)
What interior are you going with? Use this. lol

I'm pretty sure my son would take over the whole build if I stole his beloved buddy bucket..:lol:

I am going with buckets and console, I'll post a pic of the houndstooth material I have, I just need to decide on the seat color. I removed the third seat to make room for hauling my road bicycle, so I'll have the buckets and second row seat upholstered to match. I have plenty of the houndstooth material so I can do some sort of accent on the door panels and or the rear side panels I have yet to make..

Twisted78SS 08-31-2015 02:10 AM

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Well,
Been trying to get my photos to upload tonight, but that didn't go so well, so I'll just describe my progress tonight and get the few pics up in the morning.

I finished the c-notch install, which might sound like no biggie, but after doing these in the past with the body off, I can say it goes a bit slower hanging out under the Burb..
After that was done, I pulled the fuel tank to drain it and get a look inside to see what sort of shape its in. Since this sat for about 22yrs, I was afraid it was going to be a mess, but to my surprise it has very little scale on the inside. I got some fuel tank cleaner and will run that through tomorrow after work. Man were the hoses brittle! I pulled out the bags for the rear and looked over my assortment of fittings, seems my bags have a 1/2 port, and my fittings with 1/2 inch threads are rather tall.. Might have to do something about that.. I'll also work on those tomorrow.

Then I took a break from the dusty dirty underside and started to map out where the Accuair components are going to live. I decided that they will go in the back left corner inside and behind what will be the side panel. The lines and harness wiring will exit via a hole in the fuel filler housing cover. I also have a pair of 3 gallon tanks I'm going to run to give me a little extra air so if needed I can fill some bike tires while out on the road. That means I need to decide where to plumb a port for that.. I think the tanks and compressor will have plenty of room aft of the gas tank on either side, which should work out nice..

Well, not as much as I had hoped to do, but the notches took more time than I anticipated, and I spent all of today running around town with the wife and son.

Pics coming in the morning (I hope)

I almost forgot, finished sanding the the heater motor mounting area after the last round of filler.

Drew

Mr. D 08-31-2015 02:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twisted78SS (Post 7293343)
I'm pretty sure my son would take over the whole build if I stole his beloved buddy bucket..:lol:

Thanks Twisted.
I've got dropped spindles along with the disc brake kit for my 68 but I've haven't decided if I want to go with air ride or just go for more of a stock lowered stance.
How do you like the ride of air suspension vs stock?

Nice seats BTW Golden!
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Mr. D 08-31-2015 02:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. D (Post 7293362)
Thanks Twisted.
I've got dropped spindles along with the disc brake kit for my 68 but I've haven't decided if I want to go with air ride or just go for more of a stock lowered stance.
How do you like the ride of air suspension vs stock?

Nice seats BTW Golden!
Posted via Mobile Device

Wow! Great progress Drew! Can't wait to see the pics. That c-notch sounds like a pain without raising the body off the frame. A bit like performing surgery right?
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Twisted78SS 08-31-2015 11:52 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. D (Post 7293362)
Thanks Twisted.
I've got dropped spindles along with the disc brake kit for my 68 but I've haven't decided if I want to go with air ride or just go for more of a stock lowered stance.
How do you like the ride of air suspension vs stock?

Nice seats BTW Golden!
Posted via Mobile Device

Thanks!
I really like they way these trucks ride on air, can't wait to get this one out on her maiden voyage!
Here is the Houndstooth material I will be using for the seats.
Thanks to 70shortfleet, he was able to find what is was originally used in.
Looks like it came in a 1972 AMC Hornet or Matador..
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5330/...eb962884_z.jpg


Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. D (Post 7293364)
Wow! Great progress Drew! Can't wait to see the pics. That c-notch sounds like a pain without raising the body off the frame. A bit like performing surgery right?
Posted via Mobile Device

Appreciate it, often seems to drag on, especially doing parts of a project like this that don't look like much, but take time.
Surgery is right, Since I won't be towing with this anytime soon, I'm OK with the notch, but if I change my mind down the road, I will re-think on what to do..
Looks like operator error was in play on the camera, however I did manage to save a couple shots.

Here is the completed Notches, just have to tidy up the rest of the frame rails and paint it all. (the bolt sticking down with the nut on it is where the bag cup will attach)
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5829/...0f57a011_z.jpg

I went ahead and removed the tank, and here is how things look underneath
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5679/...eda5d9d4_z.jpg

The tank is in surprisingly good condition as well.

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/678/2...016ef89f_z.jpg

More fun to follow..

Twisted78SS 09-03-2015 02:00 PM

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Been a bit sidetracked this week with work, but I did do some head scratching and thinking about how to layout and install the Accuair components..

Here is a first draft:

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5782/...7c42e344_c.jpg

Will be busy over the weekend on this, hope to make some significant progress.

Hart_Rod 09-03-2015 02:18 PM

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Looks good!

68SWB4x4 09-03-2015 02:34 PM

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That houndstooth is going to look awesome

Twisted78SS 09-03-2015 10:44 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hart_Rod (Post 7297409)
Looks good!

Thanks Rob, I'm a visual worker, might not be a pro drawing but it helps me..

Quote:

Originally Posted by 68SWB4x4 (Post 7297421)
That houndstooth is going to look awesome

I agree, thanks!

Been toying with the idea of going with some shade of white vinyl, originally I thought about a brown shade, but think the white would look killer.

I also think I might change the interior from the factory argent silver to the saddle to offset the seats and eventual door and side panels. I'll try a sample area to see how it looks, and post it here for some feedback.

I have high hopes for the weekend, lots to do for sure..


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