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BlueJeep 08-30-2020 09:19 PM

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After I had the basic notch in, I worked on boxing the inside of the frame rail. Not fun working out of position with obstacles in the way, but I did make it happen.

BlueJeep 08-30-2020 09:23 PM

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I then worked on the doubler plate for the outside. If I didn't have aspirations of pulling my trailer, I would have skipped this step. The back I did wrap into the shock mount "depression" in the frame.

BlueJeep 08-30-2020 09:29 PM

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Last on the list for this weekend was to section the appropriate amount out of the body mount so that everything still lined up. This was a pretty basic operation with mock up at the end. Now after I get the other side done, I'll jack the body up off the frame and cap both notches. Again, they extend up above the existing frame rails to just below the floor.

SCOTI 08-30-2020 11:15 PM

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Looks good.

focusedontheprize 09-02-2020 08:48 AM

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Nice work and that notch looks to be absolutely solid.

Corts60 09-03-2020 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Keith Seymore (Post 8765847)
It was a standalone option KC4, or included with the HD trailering package Z82.

K

https://www.gmheritagecenter.com/doc...t-Suburban.pdf

My '86 half ton burb has the trailering package and has the cooler.

How come you didn't just replace the hoses? Never gonna tow anything?

Corts60 09-03-2020 06:20 PM

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Great work on that notch!

BlueJeep 09-04-2020 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by SCOTI (Post 8800547)
Looks good.

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Originally Posted by focusedontheprize (Post 8801886)
Nice work and that notch looks to be absolutely solid.

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Originally Posted by Corts60 (Post 8802612)
Great work on that notch!

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Originally Posted by Corts60 (Post 8802607)
My '86 half ton burb has the trailering package and has the cooler.

How come you didn't just replace the hoses? Never gonna tow anything?

Thanks guys!

As to the cooler, they aren't that effective vs. the leaking problems they have so the benefits don't outweigh the costs (risks). That, and this will only have a SBC for a little while, I'm gathering parts for a 5.3 swap. I will still pull a trailer.

BlueJeep 09-14-2020 07:05 PM

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More progress with the notch. The passenger side is now done!!! I had to jack up the body off the frame to weld the top of it, so yes at this point I really envy the pickup guys who can just take the bed off to do this! I opted to not cap the notch in the interest of getting it done, and I don't feel like I'm leaving that much strength on the table.

SCOTI 09-14-2020 09:18 PM

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I wouldn't worry about not capping it. The strength is in the height & each side is still 'connected' within 1-2 inches below of the top.

aggie91 09-17-2020 09:41 AM

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Nice work so far. I like the way you did the C-Notch, looks like it should hold up well.

Did you ever get a replacement factory tint glass?

BlueJeep 09-17-2020 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by SCOTI (Post 8808220)
I wouldn't worry about not capping it. The strength is in the height & each side is still 'connected' within 1-2 inches below of the top.

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Originally Posted by aggie91 (Post 8809449)
Nice work so far. I like the way you did the C-Notch, looks like it should hold up well.

Did you ever get a replacement factory tint glass?

Thanks guys! There isn't any reason it shouldn't be stronger than any commercially available bolt in notch for pickups, in my head. I can't wait to finish it up and drive it to see how much better it is!

Yep, got a window off Ebay.

jasonroman 09-17-2020 07:15 PM

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great work. and pics.
you still working on it?

will a notch from a pick up work?

i dont have the talent skill or tools to build my own.

SCOTI 09-17-2020 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by jasonroman (Post 8809748)
great work. and pics.
you still working on it?

will a notch from a pick up work?

i dont have the talent skill or tools to build my own.

Trucks/Burb & Blazer frames are different.

BlueJeep 09-27-2020 12:32 PM

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Finally, the notch is done!! Not without a fight though. In order to weld the top of the notch I had to jack up the body off the frame. All the bolts came out, except one. I had to drill a hole in the floor to get at the captured nut and stop it from spinning...one more hole to weld up now.

Please ignore the shock mount "repair". I did not do that, it was like that when I got the truck and I didn't make time this go around to fix it right.

BlueJeep 09-27-2020 12:45 PM

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SCOTI, I took your suggestion and bought stock length Bilstein shocks. I liked this option so that it would not limit the suspension travel, which is kinda important because to get the rear tires off they have to drop a decent amount before they'll come out.

Here's mockup photos of that and setting the pinion angle.

BlueJeep 09-27-2020 12:51 PM

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So then it was time to pull it out and weld everything up for good, and paint it. That's what I did.

BlueJeep 09-27-2020 12:57 PM

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And mounted for good in the Suburban! Trying to get it driveable for a cruise next Sunday, should be do-able.

And since the grille was out I put in my LED headlights.

SCOTI 09-27-2020 04:24 PM

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Looking good!

I would jave just used a sealed plug on the floor. Never hurts to have future access.

LT7A 09-28-2020 07:39 AM

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Tidy work man. Structural.

BlueJeep 10-04-2020 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by SCOTI (Post 8814561)
Looking good!

I would jave just used a sealed plug on the floor. Never hurts to have future access.

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Tidy work man. Structural.

Thanks guys!

Got the suburban all put back together yesterday, wow, that list was longer than it should have been. I developed a leak while it was in the garage and needed to replace seals in the steering box too, that wasn't too bad.

Today we were able to get it out for our first (and probably only) cruise for the year. Was a fantastic day, leaves were changing, and lots of neat cars to look at! The suburban worked great, hauled the whole family and our stuff, and was great fun.

SCOTI 10-04-2020 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueJeep (Post 8817963)
Thanks guys!

Got the suburban all put back together yesterday, wow, that list was longer than it should have been. I developed a leak while it was in the garage and needed to replace seals in the steering box too, that wasn't too bad.

Today we were able to get it out for our first (and probably only) cruise for the year. Was a fantastic day, leaves were changing, and lots of neat cars to look at! The suburban worked great, hauled the whole family and our stuff, and was great fun.

Feel a difference w/the rear notches & shock tweaks?

BlueJeep 10-04-2020 10:48 PM

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Oh yeah! No more banging coming from back there and the shocks make it feel stable. I did, however, figure out today that the driver's side sits noticeably lower than the passenger side. I think it's due for some new replacement leaf springs.

SCOTI 10-04-2020 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueJeep (Post 8817992)
Oh yeah! No more banging coming from back there and the shocks make it feel stable. I did, however, figure out today that the driver's side sits noticeably lower than the passenger side. I think it's due for some new replacement leaf springs.

Good to hear/read. Glad it was that notable of a difference.

daddyjeep 10-14-2020 10:58 AM

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Awesome suburban. It makes a great family cruiser. Real nice work on the notch. Are you going to add a bump stop in there somewhere?

BlueJeep 10-15-2020 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by daddyjeep (Post 8822285)
Awesome suburban. It makes a great family cruiser. Real nice work on the notch. Are you going to add a bump stop in there somewhere?

Thanks! For the bump stops, I'm planning on playing that one by ear and see if it hits before I decide. On my truck, I haven't had any bump stops on it for 5 years and 25k miles and have never had it make contact. On this suburban, if I do anything I'm looking at adding Sumo springs outboard of the frame, which would help when loaded and/or towing.

BlueJeep 10-15-2020 06:36 PM

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In one of my last posts, I alluded to the fact that I needed new leaf springs. I did, so I ordered them up. 5 leaf packs would have been almost double the cost of 8 leaf packs, and I always have the ability to remove leaves so you can guess which route I went! These are replacements for a 3/4 ton burb, but the load difference was only 125lbs per spring. Swapped them out last Friday and took it for a test drive to the ice cream shop, they worked well!

SCOTI 10-15-2020 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueJeep (Post 8822869)
In one of my last posts, I alluded to the fact that I needed new leaf springs. I did, so I ordered them up. 5 leaf packs would have been almost double the cost of 8 leaf packs, and I always have the ability to remove leaves so you can guess which route I went! These are replacements for a 3/4 ton burb, but the load difference was only 125lbs per spring. Swapped them out last Friday and took it for a test drive to the ice cream shop, they worked well!

Installed 'as-is' or did you remove any leafs?
Where did you get them?

BlueJeep 10-15-2020 07:05 PM

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So the next project started of seemingly simple, replacing some weatherstripping. To do so in a squarebody, I needed to remove the plastic trim adjacent to the door openings. As I was doing that, mouse poop was continually falling down from above the headliner. I couldn't ignore that fact, so out came the headliners. One thing leads to another, and all the trim was removed from the suburban so it could be scrubbed.

BlueJeep 10-15-2020 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by SCOTI (Post 8822875)
Installed 'as-is' or did you remove any leafs?
Where did you get them?

No, not yet.

General Spring of KC

BlueJeep 10-15-2020 08:07 PM

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Next up was getting rid of the plastic caps that plugged the holes of an old roof rack. I TIG'ed them up, not intending to do any metal finishing...they will just patina like the rest of the roof.

BlueJeep 10-15-2020 08:19 PM

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With all the holes welded up in the roof, time to make some new ones!!! I want to do what I can to not be rear-ended in traffic. To compliment the bright-ass LED taillights, I added a 3rd brake light off a 2004 Tahoe. Looks pretty much like it belongs there.

BlueJeep 10-15-2020 08:48 PM

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And now I'm ready to make some more new holes in the roof. This one I've had in mind for months now, but have been wrestling with the clean lines of no rack vs. the utility of having one. Utility is going to win out here, as this is my 3 season daily driver. Having the ability to haul the canoe or kayaks will be very important in the summer months.

The rack is off a 2005 suburban. I will be able to use all the Yakima accessories off my 2007 Suburban on it too. I had to narrow the cross bars 1.75", and it looks like it'll work really well. I bought M6 nutserts from McMaster Carr and the install tool, maybe this weekend after a boy scout campout I'll find time to begin the install.

SCOTI 10-15-2020 10:55 PM

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flashed 10-15-2020 11:13 PM

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I just read thru your whole thread , love what you have done so far . I just recently bought a 74 Burb that was stored in my pasture the last 16 months due to an accident the former owner had with it . He was moving from Arizona to North Carolina towing his show truck with the Burb when the Driverside axle broke in Alabama . It was rescued and brought here to the Truck Farm for safe keeping . He decided to sell it and I just got it on the road again . Its the most fun toy I own , especially since it was already LS swapped . Wish mine had the Barn Doors like yours .

Corts60 10-16-2020 08:27 AM

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The rack and light turned out great! You're giving me ideas....

bowtieguy79 10-20-2020 02:13 PM

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Nice progress! Keep up the good work will be looking forward to following along.

BlueJeep 01-17-2021 01:32 PM

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Ever since I bought this suburban, I've been planning to LS swap it. The reman 350 with all it's upgrades runs good, better than any SBC I've had, but it still doesn't run like I want it to. I compare it to my truck, and that's what I wanted. So, I've finally procured the last large piece to the puzzle. I found a lower mileage L33 aluminum block 5.3, and that will be the foundation for the new powertrain!

BlueJeep 01-17-2021 01:41 PM

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The motor needed to be cleaned up, and learning from the last LS swap I did I'm changing some gaskets now while it is easy, vs later when it is in the vehicle and difficult! True to form, I had 7 of the exhaust manifold bolts either broken off already or broke when I removed them. No big deal, my tried and true method worked well.

I bought a lower profile oil pan, which saves me about 3" of depth vs. the truck oil pan. This one had good reviews on eBay, and the casting and machining looks to be of good quality. It came with a gasket, but I'll use a FelPro because I don't want to do it twice.

After one round of power washing and degreaser, it looks much better! I'll still do some additional work on it with carb cleaner and a small wire brush, but I'm getting close there. I'll need to get some other things checked off the to-do list before I begin the swap, but I'm looking forward to diving into it!

SCOTI 01-17-2021 02:10 PM

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L33's aren't exactly a dime a dozen. Nice score.
Any internal mods planned?


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