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6lcummins 06-29-2012 12:04 AM

Re: 1988 Suburban "V Rig" Gets Cummins Power
 
The truck has a 6" iirc.

Mattman2010 06-29-2012 12:09 AM

Re: 1988 Suburban "V Rig" Gets Cummins Power
 
That's what I remember Ryan telling me was 6 inches.
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63chevyll 06-29-2012 12:19 AM

Re: 1988 Suburban "V Rig" Gets Cummins Power
 
Great work and cool build. In case you havent found a steering box brace, the ones from off road design are the best. Ive used many and its really worth the $60 or $70 for it instead of fabbing one
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Dieselwrencher 07-02-2012 12:42 AM

Re: 1988 Suburban "V Rig" Gets Cummins Power
 
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Originally Posted by v30crewcab (Post 5459947)
that crossmember looks like it sticks down alot! how much lift is he going to run? might just be a visual thing.

It looks like it, but there is still plenty of clearance.

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Originally Posted by Mattman2010 (Post 5460139)
That's what I remember Ryan telling me was 6 inches.
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Yep 6" before the dodge D60 which probably raised it another 1 1/2" in the front.

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Originally Posted by 63chevyll (Post 5460150)
Great work and cool build. In case you havent found a steering box brace, the ones from off road design are the best. Ive used many and its really worth the $60 or $70 for it instead of fabbing one
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Thanks. It'll be a work horse for sure. The owner ordered one and it may have been from ORD. We should see it this week.

Dieselwrencher 07-10-2012 03:29 PM

Re: 1988 Suburban "V Rig" Gets Cummins Power
 
The steering box brace showed up last week, last Thursday I power washed the front axle and under the body. I tried to get every nook and cranny I could. I also did the frame more too. This week the fuel lines should be in as well as the new brake lines. I've been working on the engine getting it ready to go. 8 out of 12 exhaust manifold bolts broke off, all the internal bolts that secure the gear housing to the block were loose, and there was no tab on the KDP. Also the crankshaft had bad pitting on the sealing surface for the rear main seal. I had to install a sleeve and different seal on it. Now the pan and front cover are back on. Tomorrow I'm going to install a new tappet cover gasket, clean the engine again, and paint it. Oh yeah, I already advanced the timing on the injection pump, and the engine is getting a little bigger injector. Getting closer...........

Mattman2010 07-10-2012 07:07 PM

Re: 1988 Suburban "V Rig" Gets Cummins Power
 
You have been busy, sure sounds like that motor needed some work.
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Dieselwrencher 07-11-2012 07:12 PM

Re: 1988 Suburban "V Rig" Gets Cummins Power
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mattman2010 (Post 5479109)
You have been busy, sure sounds like that motor needed some work.
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Just typical maintenance and things you want to check when you are un sure how the engine has been maintained.

Today I installed a new tappet cover gasket, and removed the injection pump. I forgot it is getting a 3k gsk in it. Tomorrow I'm hoping to paint the engine. We'll see.

Mattman2010 07-12-2012 03:16 PM

Re: 1988 Suburban "V Rig" Gets Cummins Power
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dieselwrencher (Post 5480836)
Just typical maintenance and things you want to check when you are un sure how the engine has been maintained.

Today I installed a new tappet cover gasket, and removed the injection pump. I forgot it is getting a 3k gsk in it. Tomorrow I'm hoping to paint the engine. We'll see.

True, but those exhaust manifold bolts dont sound like any fun.

6lcummins 07-12-2012 03:23 PM

Re: 1988 Suburban "V Rig" Gets Cummins Power
 
It's a 12V head atleast, the 24V's are more fun for drill bolts out of.

Mattman2010 07-12-2012 03:51 PM

Re: 1988 Suburban "V Rig" Gets Cummins Power
 
I've never seen the difference between the 12 and 24 valve heads besides thr valves themselves.
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6lcummins 07-12-2012 07:21 PM

Re: 1988 Suburban "V Rig" Gets Cummins Power
 
24V is smooth with the head:
http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z...DSC00214-1.jpg

12V have "ears" that stick up above the runner and are easier to drill and tap than a 24V
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Mattman2010 07-12-2012 08:28 PM

Re: 1988 Suburban "V Rig" Gets Cummins Power
 
That does look like a pain. Have fun with that Ryan!
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Dieselwrencher 07-19-2012 06:15 PM

Re: 1988 Suburban "V Rig" Gets Cummins Power
 
I've been working away on this thing. I have the front cross member done, welded in the steering box support plates, got the engine painted, and the injection pump now has a 3k gov spring in it. Now the engine is getting new injectors, and a Denny T stage II fuel pin. This thing should run pretty good. I'll try to get more pics later. Hopefully before the weekend I can have the engine sitting back in the frame.

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Dieselwrencher 07-25-2012 05:33 PM

Re: 1988 Suburban "V Rig" Gets Cummins Power
 
Time for updates! I've been sweating my butt off working away on this thing! I got the front cross member and engine cross member finished and bolted back in. I also installed some heat/sound deadener insulation on the fire wall.

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Got the engine painted and the injection pump installed. Also installed the SFI rated flex plate.
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Yesterday I sat the engine back in it and hung the transfer case on it to see what mods are next. I'm going to have to cut the cross member and clearance it for the drive shaft. The drive shaft also needs lengthened. I installed the starter, hooked up the fuel feed line, installed the OE oil pressure sensor, and have to get a bushing for the OE water temp sender.

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Dieselwrencher 07-25-2012 06:06 PM

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Some pics underneath.

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Mattman2010 07-25-2012 10:12 PM

Re: 1988 Suburban "V Rig" Gets Cummins Power
 
Looking good bud!
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Dieselwrencher 08-30-2012 02:27 AM

Re: 1988 Suburban "V Rig" Gets Cummins Power
 
I finally got the D70 in the rear of this and got the turbo and exhaust manifold back on. I have the down pipe built, now to finish the exhaust and build the trans mount. Been cleaning parts and pieces and painting them, installed the new water pump, and removed the dodge truck harness and PCM. I'm going to use it to run the alt, grid heaters, and over drive on the trans.

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Dieselwrencher 09-26-2012 06:11 PM

Re: 1988 Suburban "V Rig" Gets Cummins Power
 
Been plugging away at this thing. Anyone that says these don't take much time, must not know. :lol: The exhaust tip is just tacked on there to see if I like the angle the pipe is coming out at. It does have 4" going over the tcase too.

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Intercooler and support mods.
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Dieselwrencher 09-26-2012 06:13 PM

Re: 1988 Suburban "V Rig" Gets Cummins Power
 
I've got to figure out where the trans cooler is going to go now, and get the trans linkage figured out. Still waiting on the radiator and drive shafts, then I need to finish up the wiring. Yee haw!

86454k30 09-26-2012 09:32 PM

Re: 1988 Suburban "V Rig" Gets Cummins Power
 
Cool build! Where did you find the GMC grille without the emblem base molded into it?

Dieselwrencher 09-26-2012 11:03 PM

Re: 1988 Suburban "V Rig" Gets Cummins Power
 
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Originally Posted by 86454k30 (Post 5614714)
Cool build! Where did you find the GMC grille without the emblem base molded into it?

I'm not sure where that came from. I saw that and was like sweet! You can see where an emblem would have bolted in there. Could that be an 88 only deal maybe?

Mattman2010 09-27-2012 12:12 AM

Re: 1988 Suburban "V Rig" Gets Cummins Power
 
Looking good bud, you sure have been busy on it!

Dieselwrencher 09-27-2012 04:34 PM

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Today I spent 4 hours installing this. Wow, I'm glad I don't have to do anymore of these for a while. :lol:

Dieselwrencher 10-19-2012 07:22 PM

Re: 1988 Suburban "V Rig" Gets Cummins Power
 
Here is some more progress pics. The radiator support is done, I just have to paint it. Been working on replacing the tie rod ends, installing the DIY4X spring plates on the D60, got the fan hub and belt on the engine. Fuel lines are installed and hooked up, and new injectors are installed.

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kwin 10-27-2012 02:42 PM

Re: 1988 Suburban "V Rig" Gets Cummins Power
 
Any progress?

Dieselwrencher 10-29-2012 10:34 AM

Re: 1988 Suburban "V Rig" Gets Cummins Power
 
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Originally Posted by kwin (Post 5671233)
Any progress?

Yes, but not a lot of picture proof. :lol: The new trans is in, transfer case is back on, and now I have to redo the trans mount. I swapped out the fan hub so I can get an aftermarket pulley for the a/c bracket I'm running on it. Finally got the radiator back, and need to test fit it now. I had to remove the lh fender because the inner structure of it is all cracked and broken causing the fender to sag and at times you can't open the driver's door. I'll post pics this afternoon.

kwin 10-29-2012 10:52 AM

Re: 1988 Suburban "V Rig" Gets Cummins Power
 
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Originally Posted by Dieselwrencher (Post 5674152)
Yes, but not a lot of picture proof. :lol: The new trans is in, transfer case is back on, and now I have to redo the trans mount. I swapped out the fan hub so I can get an aftermarket pulley for the a/c bracket I'm running on it. Finally got the radiator back, and need to test fit it now. I had to remove the lh fender because the inner structure of it is all cracked and broken causing the fender to sag and at times you can't open the driver's door. I'll post pics this afternoon.

I'm watching closely, I have a 12 valve, dana 60 / 70 combination and I picked up a 3/4 ton burb.
Just waiting for spring!

Dieselwrencher 10-31-2012 04:22 PM

Re: 1988 Suburban "V Rig" Gets Cummins Power
 
Time for pics! I got the tcase on, trans mount done, modified the shock mounts on the D60. I had to remove the driver's fender as it was nearly destroyed. This is the worst nice fender I've ever seen! I'll post what I have uploaded and then do more later.

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Dieselwrencher 10-31-2012 04:52 PM

Re: 1988 Suburban "V Rig" Gets Cummins Power
 
More done. Inner fender repainted.

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x...031_125300.jpg

New pulley for A/C set up.

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A/C bracket.

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Throttle cable set up installed, transmission pressure cable brackets hooked up and I got the cable adjusted properly.

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Here was the first shot at making the trans mount. I ended up removing 1 1/2" of height from it to get the transfer case to clear the floor board. This utilizes the stock NP205 tcase rubbers. This truck had poly ones, so it worked out really well.

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I have to remove the trans cross member and add gussets to the area where I raised it to clear the drive shaft. Tomorrow I will finish the front axle shock mounts. We had to put the mounting bolts in the mini lathe and turn them down from 3/4" to 1/2" so the chevy shocks can be used.

Dieselwrencher 10-31-2012 06:57 PM

Re: 1988 Suburban "V Rig" Gets Cummins Power
 
When I was repairing the LH fender, I realized the radiator support had another broken piece. It was still bolted on the fender. :lol: I fixed it and then repainted the entire support.

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kwin 10-31-2012 07:49 PM

Re: 1988 Suburban "V Rig" Gets Cummins Power
 
Did you make the AC bracket? I want one!
Is the frame stock or reinforced?

Great work by the way, I can't wait to get started on mine.

Keith

Mattman2010 10-31-2012 08:53 PM

Re: 1988 Suburban "V Rig" Gets Cummins Power
 
Looks like you have been busy man! Looking good!

Dieselwrencher 10-31-2012 10:45 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kwin (Post 5678576)
Did you make the AC bracket? I want one!
Is the frame stock or reinforced?

Great work by the way, I can't wait to get started on mine.

Keith

Keith, no I didn't make the A/C bracket. I got the bracket and pulley from Auto World. They make top notch stuff. Check them out. If you call them ask for Donna. Tell her the crazy guy with the Cummins Corvette sent you. :lol:

Dieselwrencher 10-31-2012 10:45 PM

Re: 1988 Suburban "V Rig" Gets Cummins Power
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mattman2010 (Post 5678676)
Looks like you have been busy man! Looking good!

Thanks and yes I have been. I want to hear this thing run! And drive it. Haha

Mattman2010 10-31-2012 11:19 PM

Re: 1988 Suburban "V Rig" Gets Cummins Power
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dieselwrencher (Post 5678886)
Thanks and yes I have been. I want to hear this thing run! And drive it. Haha

Haha, With as many projects as your trying to get finished in like no time im sure it would be nice to get one done and driving. Even if it isnt yours :lol:

6lcummins 11-01-2012 09:22 PM

Re: 1988 Suburban "V Rig" Gets Cummins Power
 
The nice part of having a mini lathe for injectors:
http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z...031_124625.jpg

Dieselwrencher 11-23-2012 06:18 PM

Re: 1988 Suburban "V Rig" Gets Cummins Power
 
We've been working on this beast making progress. Here's a shot of one of the inner fender mounting tabs broken off I repaired.

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Here are the front axle shock mounts completed and shocks installed.

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Here are the sway bar mounts incorporated with the leaf spring retaining plates.

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I had to take the rear drive shaft back again. When they built it, they didn't take into consideration the slip joint moving because it was almost bottomed out. They had to take out some to get proper travel. The front fits really nice. Too bad I broke a tap off in the rear pinion yoke. Someone had the hole cross threaded and I was trying to save it. I'm working on getting a different yoke now.

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I had to cut a hole in the floor pan to get the 4wd shifter from the dodge to fit in here. I also had to modify the shifter mount to allow being bolted to a 47rh, since they never were designed to be there. I didn't to weld steel back in there because I didn't want the windshield and interior burnt by welding. So I made a cover out of aluminum, riveted and sealed it in. I will show pics of the modified shifter bracket later. I did get the shifter to come through the stock hole in the floor as well.

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Dieselwrencher 11-23-2012 06:27 PM

Re: 1989 Suburban "V Rig" Gets Cummins Power
 
I got a new A/C compressor and mounted it so I can get a belt for it. i also ran into another issue. I had planned on running the stock upper intake from the 93 Dodge truck. Wrong. The stock dodge elbow points straight into the chevy master cylinder and you can't get the charge pipe in there. So, I had to use a 2nd gen 12v intake horn. And again, another problem. They were designed for P-pump configurations, not VE rotary pump engines. The 2nd gen style has an ear coming off the intake bolting farther forward to help support the intake and on some providing a mounting point for the dip stick. I had to cut this part off to be able to bolt the intake on due to an injection line being rightin the way of this extra ear. No big deal. This intake will be getting polished as well before it's all done.

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I also ran into another snafoo. Since we used the dodge steering box, the drag link is hairy. Can't use a chevy one due to them being too long. Can't find any DOM threaded or anyone to thread it for what I need to do. So I came up with this. I have to weld a gusset on each end still. The owner is going to run this until he switches over to cross over steering later.

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Dieselwrencher 11-23-2012 06:34 PM

Re: 1988 Suburban "V Rig" Gets Cummins Power
 
I'll take more pics this weekend. We got the LH hub bearings re packed and inspected, and all put together. Started putting exhaust hangers on the exhaust, trying to knock out things little by little. We got the radiator support bolted back on and have both fenders realigned and ready to go. Let me tell you, that was a PITA! :lol:

Mattman2010 11-24-2012 09:34 PM

Re: 1988 Suburban "V Rig" Gets Cummins Power
 
Looking good man. That drag link looks a little scary. It looks if the drivers side drops down any that the joint on the steering box end is going to come to the end of its stroke. Or maybe even turning to full lock to the passenger side.


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