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Heliarcn 11-25-2017 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by mcmlxix (Post 8089088)
Great progress... where's the plaid? lol
Soon!

Heliarcn 11-25-2017 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by youngrodder (Post 8089402)
The sheet metal for the notch looks great. I need to do something similar on my 53 Suburban to clear the PB notch. I went with a 2 piece drive shaft similar to what C-10 guys use and I didn't need to cut my floor up any more to accommodate a drive line. I assume you planned to run a 2 piece drive shaft. The Delmo wheels look great. Are they 22's?

Marc
Yes I used a 2 piece drive shaft and carrier bearing from Inland Empire Driveline. They were great to work with and shipped the drive shaft within 3-4 days of ordering it. I’ll get some current pics of the rear floor up soon. It change a little throughout the build, but still looks similar.

The wheels are 22 x 8.5 up front and 22 x 10 in the back.

Heliarcn 11-25-2017 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Advanced Design (Post 8089545)
Very nice work! Love your Burb, tagging along for the rest.
Thanks!

Heliarcn 11-25-2017 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by 04ls1gto (Post 8088587)
Looks really good
Thanks!

Longhornss 11-25-2017 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Heliarcn (Post 8089879)
Hey Longhornss,

I went with the Porterbuilt LS mounts and ICT Billet LS to LT adaptors. I did this because it raised the motor and trans to the proper elevation so the trans pan wasn’t lower than the frame rails. The 6L80E is a huge trans and just barely fit with the G8 pan. I will eventually talk to Porterbuilt about re-making the mounts so I don’t have to have the adaptors in there. As for the exhaust manifolds, I chopped the flange off the stock manifolds and welded a v-band flange on. This was a quick fix to get the suburban running and down to AZ for the Gitdown and Goodguys. I tried the 2016 Camaro tube manifolds, but they didn’t work with my steering. Passenger side was good, but the drivers side was no good. I will eventually make my own headers.

Bret

Bret,

Thanks for the information, the Guys at PB are currently making a set of LT mounts so I should be getting one of their first sets. I will be getting them un welded as they are using the stock GMPP pan (Corvette) I of course have the Holley pan and their accesory drive for my setup so I am anticipating some differences in how everything will fit because the GMPP engine uses a vette balancer and I am running a truck balancer.
Once I have the engine in place I will be giving the guys at Ultimate header a call as they already have an LT header and will work with me to move the collector around if I need it in a different area.

Heliarcn 11-27-2017 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Longhornss (Post 8090045)
Bret,

Thanks for the information, the Guys at PB are currently making a set of LT mounts so I should be getting one of their first sets. I will be getting them un welded as they are using the stock GMPP pan (Corvette) I of course have the Holley pan and their accesory drive for my setup so I am anticipating some differences in how everything will fit because the GMPP engine uses a vette balancer and I am running a truck balancer.
Once I have the engine in place I will be giving the guys at Ultimate header a call as they already have an LT header and will work with me to move the collector around if I need it in a different area.
Just FYI - I changed my truck balancer and water pump over to a 2016 Camaro balancer and water pump to install a Drive Junky LT Accessory Drive. No issues with the Holley pan, and that Camaro balancer is really tight to the motor.

Longhornss 11-27-2017 02:42 PM
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Bret that is awesome information.
The reason I Went with the Holley parts is I got the engine as a pull out and did not have the balancer or water pump. at the time when I was doing the initial fit there was only one option for a drive system that I was not too impressed with so the Holley was the next best choice..... Maybe now I will have to consider going to the Drive Junky Kit. I got a chance to see some of their kits at SEMA. and they look like a great piece.

Are you Running the AC compressor on your engine. Any fitment issues with it?

Heliarcn 11-28-2017 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Longhornss (Post 8091443)
Bret that is awesome information.
The reason I Went with the Holley parts is I got the engine as a pull out and did not have the balancer or water pump. at the time when I was doing the initial fit there was only one option for a drive system that I was not too impressed with so the Holley was the next best choice..... Maybe now I will have to consider going to the Drive Junky Kit. I got a chance to see some of their kits at SEMA. and they look like a great piece.

Are you Running the AC compressor on your engine. Any fitment issues with it?
The A/C is low on the passenger side and tucked into the motor pretty tight. I haven't installed the hoses yet, might need some slight trimming of the frame in that area or some creative hoses, but definitely doable. I'll try to get some pics posted soon.

Longhornss 11-28-2017 01:23 PM
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The A/C is low on the passenger side and tucked into the motor pretty tight. I haven't installed the hoses yet, might need some slight trimming of the frame in that area or some creative hoses, but definitely doable. I'll try to get some pics posted soon.
Pictures would be great! I have my entire frame boxed from front to back so notching the frame may be a bit of a stretch. I was just talking to Zach over at drive junkies yesterday about running the the system. He was very helpful and assured me he would work with me if I had any fitment problems.
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Heliarcn 12-07-2017 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Longhornss (Post 8092244)
Pictures would be great! I have my entire frame boxed from front to back so notching the frame may be a bit of a stretch. I was just talking to Zach over at drive junkies yesterday about running the the system. He was very helpful and assured me he would work with me if I had any fitment problems.
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Which motor were you using? Is it a truck motor L83 or L86, or an actual LT1 out of a Camaro or Corvette? All of the drive systems are a little different.

Longhornss 12-07-2017 02:12 PM
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OK, So the way I purchased the 6.2L Engine, it was a short block with rotating assembly and heads. so there was no way of knowing if it was a truck or Car Engine. (it does not appear to have ever had a Vacuum pump mounted to the block so it was possibly a Camaro engine)

There was not balancer or water pump on the front of the engine.

Currently it has a truck balancer and the Holley accessory drive system on it, as that is what was available at the time I started fitting the engine to the truck.

I have talked Zach At drive junkies and know I will need to change to a Camaro water pump and balancer.

Heliarcn 06-05-2019 04:02 PM
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Ok, back at it where I left off. The was late 2017. Pulled the body off and installed some plumbing and wiring.

Heliarcn 06-05-2019 05:13 PM
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Had to her put back together for Dino's Chevy Only Gitdown 2017. Here she is almost ready, just missing some glass and interior.

Heliarcn 06-05-2019 05:20 PM
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Here's some pics from the Gitdown, the hotel, and Goodguys Southwest 2017. My brothers 66 Chevy next to the suburban was our grandfathers truck. It had been about 30 years since I rode in that truck. Such a cool weekend.

Heliarcn 06-05-2019 05:27 PM
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Back home putting a few miles on the burb working out the bugs.

Heliarcn 06-05-2019 06:08 PM
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In early 2018 I decided the burb needed to be a full blown show vehicle. :crazy: So, I blew it all apart again and had the body blasted to bare metal.

LockDoc 06-07-2019 09:06 AM
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Lookin' good. I would have a hard time pulling it back apart if it looked that good and I was driving it.....:)

LockDoc

youngrodder 06-07-2019 11:10 AM
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Funny after having a full blown show paint job I'm going the other way, with my suburban build. We always want what we don't have right....What colors you have in mind?

Ol' Drippy 06-11-2019 02:38 PM
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Do you have any pictures of the interior? Where you able to get a 3rd row seat back there?

ajgriffin 06-12-2019 03:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Ol' Drippy (Post 8540717)
Do you have any pictures of the interior? Where you able to get a 3rd row seat back there?
If you look close in post #55 you can see the 3rd row facing the rear lift gate.

This is pretty cool too...

https://www.instagram.com/p/BxK8rLHFNf0/

Ol' Drippy 06-12-2019 03:01 PM
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Wow, tail gunner seats! I hadn't even considered that. Very cool, love the truck.

Heliarcn 06-14-2019 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by LockDoc (Post 8538282)
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Lookin' good. I would have a hard time pulling it back apart if it looked that good and I was driving it.....:)

LockDoc
Thanks LockDoc. If the paint was original I would have left it. It was a repaint about 20 years ago and I just wanted it to look better.

Heliarcn 06-14-2019 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by youngrodder (Post 8538345)
Funny after having a full blown show paint job I'm going the other way, with my suburban build. We always want what we don't have right....What colors you have in mind?
Going back with the same blue and white, but looking for a nice metallic blue now.

Heliarcn 06-14-2019 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by ajgriffin (Post 8541053)
If you look close in post #55 you can see the 3rd row facing the rear lift gate.

This is pretty cool too...

https://www.instagram.com/p/BxK8rLHFNf0/
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Originally Posted by Ol' Drippy (Post 8540717)
Do you have any pictures of the interior? Where you able to get a 3rd row seat back there?
Good eye ajgriffin. The 3rd seat will be facing the rear.

Heliarcn 06-14-2019 12:03 PM
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Doing some rust repair. Drivers side was shot, but the passenger side rockers were solid. Got lucky.

Heliarcn 06-14-2019 12:24 PM
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July 2018 - Cleaning up the firewall with some nice smooth bead rolled panels from Slosh Tubz.

ajgriffin 05-04-2020 03:48 AM
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Bret, just checking in on you and the project. I've taken a break on Instagram, but last I was on there you thought you were close to paint. How are things coming?

Heliarcn 05-04-2020 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by ajgriffin (Post 8731766)
Bret, just checking in on you and the project. I've taken a break on Instagram, but last I was on there you thought you were close to paint. How are things coming?
Going good over here, just not as much progress as I would like. I had some family heath issues that took a lot of my time early this year, and then I decided to replace some more sheet metal on the burb that I wasn't happy with. I'm real close paint now. I should start painting the interior within the next 2-3 weeks.

ajgriffin 05-04-2020 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Heliarcn (Post 8732204)
Going good over here, just not as much progress as I would like. I had some family heath issues that took a lot of my time early this year, and then I decided to replace some more sheet metal on the burb that I wasn't happy with. I'm real close paint now. I should start painting the interior within the next 2-3 weeks.
Good to hear 👍🏾 I don't know anyone who makes as much progress as they want to on their projects, so any progress at all is good progress. Also glad to hear that you were able to work through the health issues. Hope the worst of that is behind you.

ajgriffin 05-04-2020 07:02 PM
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One question for you. How is the fit of your passenger doors? I was installing weatherstrip on mine and noticed that although the body of the door is decent, the window area is terrible.
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Heliarcn 05-05-2020 02:16 PM
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Good to hear ���� I don't know anyone who makes as much progress as they want to on their projects, so any progress at all is good progress. Also glad to hear that you were able to work through the health issues. Hope the worst of that is behind you.
Yes, the worst is definitely behind me. As for the door window frames, I put a lot of work into the 3rd door to make it look right. The gaps were bad and I had to cut it loose from the door and re-weld it. It was also pushed out similar to yours in the picture.

The weather strip attaches to a pinch weld in the door jamb. I smacked that pinch weld in a little with a dead blow hammer so it wasn't pushing out so hard on the window frame, then reinstalled the weather strip and checked the fit until it looked right. Had to do the same in several places on the other doors as well. Those window frames will bend a little, but I'm sure its much less stressful bending them in the body work stage than when they're painted.

Hope this helps.

Heliarcn 05-22-2020 01:03 PM
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More July 2018 mock up and bare metal panel alignment.

Heliarcn 05-22-2020 01:18 PM
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Got some Trique Mfg. Altman Easy Latches for the doors. Decided to cut them apart and weld them flush instead of bolting them in.

Discovered something weird about suburbans during this process. The suburban passenger door striker plate is different than the truck. As you can see in the picture, the bolt holes don't line up and the inside edge of the plate had to be ground down to fit.

ajgriffin 05-22-2020 01:27 PM
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NICE! Altman has been working on a Suburban set for a while, but I'm not holding my breath. How did the 3 door close once you finished the mod?

Heliarcn 05-22-2020 02:49 PM
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NICE! Altman has been working on a Suburban set for a while, but I'm not holding my breath. How did the 3 door close once you finished the mod?
Doors close much easier. I mocked everything up and did all bodywork with the door seals in place. I just figured I would sacrifice a set of seals through the build, so I didn't have to worry about the doors being so tight in the end.

ajgriffin 05-22-2020 02:53 PM
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:metal: I hate that I discovered the push on seals AFTER I had already purchased the glue ons.

You think you'll make the Git Down with the Plaid Burb finished this year?

Heliarcn 05-22-2020 03:30 PM
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:metal: I hate that I discovered the push on seals AFTER I had already purchased the glue ons.

You think you'll make the Git Down with the Plaid Burb finished this year?
Yes, hopefully things are somewhat back to normal by the Git Down.

Heliarcn 05-22-2020 03:54 PM
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Had to do some adjusting on the 3rd door window frame to get it to match the other door gaps. Had to cut it loose, manhandle it a little, and weld it up.

Heliarcn 05-22-2020 04:01 PM
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Everything in high build primer but the hatch. Mine was rusted beyond repair.

Heliarcn 05-22-2020 04:20 PM
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Somewhere around September 2019 at this point. Got all the body work looking good and decided to pull the cab off the chassis and put it on a rotisserie to finish the floor and paint the roof. Probably should have done this earlier, oh well.

For the record, I was never comfortable flipping that cab over! I couldn't get rid of that rotisserie fast enough!


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