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KQQL IT 04-25-2021 03:40 PM

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More of the good stuff.

Choppin block is kinda local so went to the shop Friday
1 inch narrow 1 inch forward

SCOTI 04-25-2021 06:10 PM

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Nice.

KQQL IT 04-30-2021 10:56 PM

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Think I maybe solved my bumpsteer problem.
Nothing like machining new parts.
Void warranty in the 1st 30 seconds

KQQL IT 05-02-2021 07:05 PM

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Mocking up stuff

KQQL IT 05-05-2021 10:24 PM

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Spindles showed time to get this together

@scoti


Is there a recommendation for a bag and upper bag plate ?

See some are flat and recessed into the coil bucket

SCOTI 05-06-2021 12:10 AM

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With my arms shifted forward, I made my own upper plates.
Cardboard templates of the x-member transferred over to 3/16" plate. Mounted the bags to the lower arms & marked/traced out onto the plates to understand the center-line needed for them.

KQQL IT 05-08-2021 12:01 PM

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The ruffstuff insert was the wrong taper.
So a good friend made some new ones with a correct taper.

KQQL IT 05-09-2021 12:13 AM

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Kid brazed in the new inserts my friend made for us.
Still going to need a bump steer kit I believe

KQQL IT 05-16-2021 07:33 PM

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So...

I think we have beat the bumpsteer

tinydb84 05-17-2021 01:07 PM

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Looks good. Hard to tell from the angle though. You could always check it but cycling the suspension (especially since you dont have the spring in) and check to see how far it moves.

KQQL IT 05-17-2021 05:16 PM

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It's does good til full droop.
But it's well beyond the advertised bag travel.

KQQL IT 05-27-2021 10:08 PM

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Is a 1.500 id bushing enough interference?

SCOTI 05-28-2021 09:48 AM

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Is a 1.500 id bushing enough interference?

??
Relevant to what?

KQQL IT 05-28-2021 12:05 PM

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Guess you're not a mind reader.

For our rear links.
Was planning in using the the rear spring hanger to locate the lower link.
2 inch x 1/4 wall dom tube is 1.490 I.D

KQQL IT 06-16-2021 03:22 PM

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Wheels came in American racing rodders
20x8 and 9.5 with 245/40r20 and 275/40r20 kuhmos
Can't wait to mock it up

SCOTI 06-16-2021 05:08 PM

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Nice.

What was the outcome on the rear link bar/bushing combo?

KQQL IT 06-16-2021 05:54 PM

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Nice.

What was the outcome on the rear link bar/bushing combo?


The bushing fits with grease.
Rolled a edge of the urethane
May have to hone them a bit.

Still on the fence about the 2 link...

SCOTI 06-16-2021 06:12 PM

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The bushing fits with grease.
Rolled a edge of the urethane
May have to hone them a bit.

Still on the fence about the 2 link...

I would skip the poly bushed front pivots if you decide on the 2-link. I'd use a spherical joint for less bind & more articulation than possible w/poly.

KQQL IT 06-16-2021 09:41 PM

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I would skip the poly bushed front pivots if you decide on the 2-link. I'd use a spherical joint for less bind & more articulation than possible w/poly.


Kid wants a 4 link. I want simple, he wants performance.

Just happy we got a rack made for it to move around carrying it was killing me.

tinydb84 06-16-2021 09:44 PM

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(2 link + 4 link) / 2 people = 3 link?

KQQL IT 06-17-2021 10:00 AM

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2 link- 4 link- trailing arm its all in the air currently

Just happy I don't have to carry the frame around.
And trying to convince myself I shouldn't 5 lug swap and lay the crew cabbie

SCOTI 06-17-2021 11:30 AM

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2 link- 4 link- trailing arm its all in the air currently

Just happy I don't have to carry the frame around.
And trying to convince myself I shouldn't 5 lug swap and lay the crew cabbie

HD or Lt.Duty 2500?

KQQL IT 06-17-2021 11:34 AM

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HD or Lt.Duty 2500?

HD like 8600 gvw or something.
454 4L80 126k the paint is starting to die finally and starting to show its age. Door handles window motors wonky gauges typical stuff.

SCOTI 06-17-2021 01:22 PM

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HD like 8600 gvw or something.
454 4L80 126k the paint is starting to die finally and starting to show its age. Door handles window motors wonky gauges typical stuff.

8-lug = 8600; 6-lug = 7200.

Mine....

KQQL IT 06-17-2021 02:10 PM

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Definitely 8 lug.

Well if I go that way. You'll get a pm with a parts list.
You helped me a ton with the 91 I did for my bro in law

SCOTI 06-17-2021 03:24 PM

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Definitely 8 lug.

Well if I go that way. You'll get a pm with a parts list.
You helped me a ton with the 91 I did for my bro in law

:cool:

Pretty basic static drop for now. Unsure if I'll do full bag swap or just helpers @ this point. The plan was full swap but it sits good & it's nice not having to clearance the bejeezus out of everything.

It high centered this past weekend pulling that load in the pic as it sits. Heavier loads will need some help.

KQQL IT 06-17-2021 09:00 PM

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This is the '91 3500 you helped me with.
350 4spd now with a 3.08 10 bolt.
Went ghetto tho reamed 1/2 stock spindles for the 3500 ball joints
Clipped 2 coils and new axle pads cause a flip wouldn't with 3500 spring hangers.
I bought when the b-i-l spun out on meth and since sold it to a neighbor

SCOTI 06-17-2021 11:47 PM

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I just welded the ends of the flip brackets to the leaf pads on the housing. Kept them from moving. Did the welds where I could easily buzz it off if/when desired.

KQQL IT 06-18-2021 03:07 AM

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I just welded the ends of the flip brackets to the leaf pads on the housing. Kept them from moving. Did the welds where I could easily buzz it off if/when desired.

The 3500 spring hanger didn't line up with the 1500 spring pads.
Why we used new pads.

SCOTI 06-18-2021 09:38 AM

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The 3500 spring hanger didn't line up with the 1500 spring pads.
Why we used new pads.

Ahh.... One might expect things like that to be slightly different & those are.

KQQL IT 06-19-2021 02:41 PM

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Rotor fits in the wheel center. Was really concerned they wouldn't.
But the rotor got swallowed up in a 20" wheel.

SCOTI 06-19-2021 11:42 PM

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What diameter rotor? 13" (12.8) or ??

KQQL IT 06-20-2021 02:01 AM

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What diameter rotor? 13" (12.8) or ??


11.9 according to the order.
Powerstop rotors.
Seems like enough room for a pad swap with out taking the wheels off. Ha !

SCOTI 06-20-2021 11:14 AM

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Ahh.... Replacement C10 size. I though you might have upsized.

KQQL IT 06-20-2021 12:54 PM

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Ahh.... Replacement C10 size. I though you might have upsized.

Yes. Original plan was 18 inch wheels.
But they backordered til end of August so got the 20's and the rotor looks silly in there

SCOTI 06-20-2021 01:19 PM

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Yes. Original plan was 18 inch wheels.
But they backordered til end of August so got the 20's and the rotor looks silly in there

I liked the look of OE sized front rotors in 18" wheels & the HD drums in 20's. I had that combo on my old 74 & thought the proportions looked fine (= WTF out of place).

KQQL IT 07-02-2021 11:24 PM

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It's going together with the parts we have. If it stops weird I'll put the slotted stuff on my 73 and do something different on the k5
Was looking at afco calipers 1.25 rotor 4 piston deal.

SCOTI 07-03-2021 01:01 AM

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I imagine it will stop just fine.

KQQL IT 07-03-2021 02:05 AM

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Looking at something like this

SCOTI 07-03-2021 11:44 AM

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Just need to calc the dual smaller pistons vs. a D52 big piston & see what difference there is.


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