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mikentosh 03-26-2021 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by EricU (Post 8899701)
Well my current plan is;
1) Wait to hear back from my local smog Ref to dial down exactly what my options are.
2) Hopefully find a compliant 2wd 6.0 or 6.2 with a six-speed automatic combo that fits in my GVWR window (8.5k - 10k) that I can start searching for a relatively low mileage one to purchase out of wrecking yard (how hard could that be???:confused:)
3) Get the OP Steve Van Gent, who is "only" three short hours north of me to come down for the weekends to help sort out the wiring BS.
EricU, when you talk with the smog ref can you clarify with them if the e-rod motors are acceptable for class 1 GVWR trucks? My understanding is that this is okay.

KQQL IT 03-27-2021 11:49 AM
Re: SMOG LEGAL ENGINE SWAP TO LS yesterday passed!
 
So if I was to swap this blazer. I wonder if it would require an suv donor

I should've re read the whole thread.

EricU 03-27-2021 11:56 AM
Re: SMOG LEGAL ENGINE SWAP TO LS yesterday passed!
 
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Originally Posted by KQQL IT (Post 8900078)
So if I was to swap this blazer. I wonder if it would require an suv donor being ca dmv doesn't call it a truck ?
No, it goes by GVWR.

Look at your door tag, my "guess" is that your in the 2a group (6k - 8.5k) which are pretty easy to find.

As mentioned before, you need to have ALL emissions related components in working order.

EricU 03-27-2021 12:43 PM
Re: SMOG LEGAL ENGINE SWAP TO LS yesterday passed!
 
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Originally Posted by mikentosh (Post 8899781)
EricU, when you talk with the smog ref can you clarify with them if the e-rod motors are acceptable for class 1 GVWR trucks? My understanding is that this is okay.

The E-rods are only for vehicles with a GVWR <5,725 lbs - so check your tag.

If it does meet the criteria, they are a great solution in CA. You still have some other items that you need to address but it is much simpler.

CARB doc

KQQL IT 03-27-2021 04:16 PM
Re: SMOG LEGAL ENGINE SWAP TO LS yesterday passed!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by EricU (Post 8900080)
No, it goes by GVWR.

Look at your door tag, my "guess" is that your in the 2a group (6k - 8.5k) which are pretty easy to find.

As mentioned before, you need to have ALL emissions related components in working order.
They're not a truck per the registration.
Hoping the 83 and prior no smog passes.
The op was a jimmy and they used a tahoe for a donor.
Why I should re read the thread

EricU 03-27-2021 06:31 PM
Re: SMOG LEGAL ENGINE SWAP TO LS yesterday passed!
 
Truck, Van or Suburban, it doesn't matter.

Your donor vehicle just needs to be in the same GVWR catagory.

What is the GVWR of your Blazer? That is step one.

KQQL IT 03-27-2021 08:26 PM
Re: SMOG LEGAL ENGINE SWAP TO LS yesterday passed!
 
Door tags gone.
Has a CHP assigned vin
A '82 2wd that was a originally 305 t350 10 bolt
Been stuffed hard at some point, currently fixing a ruined frame we've gotten a bit of project on our hands.

rodstored-72 03-29-2021 01:01 PM
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steve, thank you for the info & right up.... I am looking to do a very similar situation here in AZ. I am wondering how you went about finding the CA guidlines for emissions pass requirements related to the swap? I know to call the "local" DEQ office, but looking for "terms or phrases" that you might pass along to help speak their jargon :uhmk:... to explain what what was done...:metal:

thanks!

EricU 03-29-2021 01:32 PM
Re: SMOG LEGAL ENGINE SWAP TO LS yesterday passed!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by rodstored-72 (Post 8901013)
...I am wondering how you went about finding the CA guidlines for emissions pass requirements related to the swap? I know to call the "local" DEQ office, but looking for "terms or phrases" that you might pass along to help speak their jargon :uhmk:... to explain what what was done...
In CA we have a website to start with AskTheRef.com

The CA BAR engine swap guidelines are listed here.

Axle 04-03-2021 11:54 AM
Re: SMOG LEGAL ENGINE SWAP TO LS yesterday passed!
 
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Originally Posted by nekkidhillbilly (Post 8606334)
the trans thing is crazy how the hell does that make a difference in emissions. fuel economy possibly if you kept say a th350 or 400 but emissions aren't going to change. I wonder how they deal with
Think about how modern vehicles control the transmission and what gear you are in. A th350 cruising down the highway in 1:1 is going to rev higher than the overdrive computer controlled vehicle that is always attempting to keep you in the highest gear possible, and lowest rpm to not only keep fuel consumption down, but to also lower emmisions by keeping the engine in a certain rpm band for the given speed. Keith S. can probably give us an idea of how much time in development is spent on meeting emmsions targets, or how much it plays into what rolls off the end of the assembly line.


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