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AustinScott 10-20-2011 01:26 AM
Re: 20" Truck Rally Wheels
 
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Originally Posted by VA72C10 (Post 4963135)
Thinking more on this I think that a stock steelie looking wheel that would accept a dog dish or poverty cap would be ideal. Look at what all of the patina rides and the slammed trucks are running. Not rally wheels but factory style steel wheels.

The main advantage I also see to this is that the larger center caps that fit these wheels will fit the scale a lot better than the smaller caps that fit on a rally wheel. Also you don't need a ring for a steelie....you could offer them powdercoated white or a raw finish for those wanting another color...

think about it. Most guys running raly wheels think anything over 15" is ugly. Most guys running 20's would pick a steelie over a rally wheel 100% of the time....
:agree: NAILED IT!

stich626 10-20-2011 01:59 AM
Re: 20" Truck Rally Wheels
 
20" rally with a 14" moon hub cap (think the salt)for the center..

OARNGESI 10-20-2011 02:56 AM
Re: 20" Truck Rally Wheels
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by va72c10 (Post 4963135)
thinking more on this i think that a stock steelie looking wheel that would accept a dog dish or poverty cap would be ideal. Look at what all of the patina rides and the slammed trucks are running. Not rally wheels but factory style steel wheels.

The main advantage i also see to this is that the larger center caps that fit these wheels will fit the scale a lot better than the smaller caps that fit on a rally wheel. Also you don't need a ring for a steelie....you could offer them powdercoated white or a raw finish for those wanting another color...

Think about it. Most guys running raly wheels think anything over 15" is ugly. Most guys running 20's would pick a steelie over a rally wheel 100% of the time....
allot of people just use the centerlines

STOCKISH 10-20-2011 08:21 AM
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Definately looking into the rallys right now. I really like the idea of the steelie though. If the market is there and enough people are on board for a buy in I might be able to do a stock "steelie" wheel as well.

slick copper 10-20-2011 02:11 PM
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I think I speak for everyone when I say: I can't wait to see a mockup/protype pic of these things! :wop:
:lol: Just kiddin' man. I know these things take time and $

STOCKISH 10-20-2011 02:52 PM
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Me too man. Me too.

slick copper 10-20-2011 03:15 PM
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We'll be waiting. :lol: You think there's enough of a market yet?

STOCKISH 10-20-2011 03:45 PM
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The MOQ (minimum order quantity) is ALOT. Thate why others who have tried this have stopped short of completion. There is alot of money involved in making molds to press centers, jigs to weld the wheels in, etc... The biggest hurdle is the minimum order quantity. I am not going to order 1000 wheels in 8" wide and same in 10" wide if there isnt a LARGE response for them. Then you have some people want a 8" wide wheel with 5" backspace and some want 5.25, 5.75, etc... Gets expensive quick. I think what we might have to do is build them in one backspace for the 8s and one for the 10s. Something that will "work" for most people. Probably a 5" or 5.25" bs for the 20x8 and a 5.5" or 6" b.s. for the 20x10. That way you can run a spacer to push them out if needed. You cant tuck them in further if the wheel you have doesnt have enough backspacing. Your guys thoughts? Would like to hear more opinions on finish, etc.

Tim Christian 10-20-2011 03:51 PM
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Thats why you really need to be selling to companies that are going to buy a few hundred each. What happens is people try to do it themselfs and say sell the first 100 sets at $850 then your money gets tight and you have to dump the rest at cost and the first people whom buy them is now really upset. Not saying you would do that but I would try to think about every aspect of it.

bbbc10 10-20-2011 04:55 PM
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im wanting a set of chrome...bs should be like eagle alloys 225 etc.....

whiteheadcycle 10-20-2011 06:15 PM
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20x8 with 5.25 and 20x10 with 5.5 ... SOLD!!!
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gringoloco 10-20-2011 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by whiteheadcycle (Post 4964167)
20x8 with 5.25 and 20x10 with 5.5 ... SOLD!!!
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Perfect backspacing for a 71-72 or an earlier model that has been disc/5-lug converted. Could probably go 5" on the 8s...

STOCKISH 10-20-2011 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Tim Christian (Post 4963965)
Thats why you really need to be selling to companies that are going to buy a few hundred each. What happens is people try to do it themselfs and say sell the first 100 sets at $850 then your money gets tight and you have to dump the rest at cost and the first people whom buy them is now really upset. Not saying you would do that but I would try to think about every aspect of it.
We are looking into this too. You interested in a few hundred?

whiteheadcycle 10-20-2011 10:36 PM
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If I won the lottery I would buy 100 sets for the 100 trucks I would buy. Then I would have to buy 100 pb dropmembers...wow, I better win big because that just got costly! Sorry off subject, I would buy 1 set for sure
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PHAT TONY 10-20-2011 10:49 PM
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What sized holes are you talking, and how many? I like the larger (and less) holes in the 6-bolt wheels over the smaller 5-bolt.

STOCKISH 10-21-2011 08:14 AM
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I'm not sure I understand, sorry. These should replicate the 71-87 truck rallys in a 20" diameter.

m6z 10-21-2011 08:24 AM
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I think there is a market, but you're going to have to keep them around $1k or less to move them. Trim rings are a must. The rally wheels just don't look right without them. I think selling 100 sets in the current market is going to be rough.

m6z 10-21-2011 08:28 AM
Re: 20" Truck Rally Wheels
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by AustinScott (Post 4963199)
:agree: NAILED IT!
Quote:
Originally Posted by VA72C10 (Post 4963135)
Thinking more on this I think that a stock steelie looking wheel that would accept a dog dish or poverty cap would be ideal. Look at what all of the patina rides and the slammed trucks are running. Not rally wheels but factory style steel wheels.

The main advantage I also see to this is that the larger center caps that fit these wheels will fit the scale a lot better than the smaller caps that fit on a rally wheel. Also you don't need a ring for a steelie....you could offer them powdercoated white or a raw finish for those wanting another color...

think about it. Most guys running raly wheels think anything over 15" is ugly. Most guys running 20's would pick a steelie over a rally wheel 100% of the time....
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Originally Posted by OARNGESI (Post 4963256)
allot of people just use the centerlines
I think the steelie would apeal to more people as long as you offered it in 4 3/4 bolt pattern, but I don't think people are going to pay much for a plain steel wheel. I know I'm not going to consider dropping $200-300 a wheel on a heavy 20" steelie. I like the steelie look, but a lot of people go that route because its cheap. If I've got $1k to spend I'm going to be looking at eagle or coy b4 considering a plain steel wheel. Plus if that's the look your going for the centerline is priced close and its lighter.

VA72C10 10-21-2011 09:09 AM
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I personally don't think a centerline smoothie looks much like a steelie with a center cap. I've seen people add center caps to the smoothie but that's a fairly involved mod for many to tackle and still doesn't look like a stock steelie.

6" steelies aren't that expensive but are getting there....most went to scrap a long time ago...but have you looked for 7 or 8"? They sell for good money for a 15" steel wheel.... now picture a 20x8 and 20x10 steelie....deep dish in the back...nice lip in the front. That'd be sweet :D

m6z 10-21-2011 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by VA72C10 (Post 4965214)
I personally don't think a centerline smoothie looks much like a steelie with a center cap. I've seen people add center caps to the smoothie but that's a fairly involved mod for many to tackle and still doesn't look like a stock steelie.

6" steelies aren't that expensive but are getting there....most went to scrap a long time ago...but have you looked for 7 or 8"? They sell for good money for a 15" steel wheel.... now picture a 20x8 and 20x10 steelie....deep dish in the back...nice lip in the front. That'd be sweet :D
I agree that it would look great, it's just I don't think that a lot of people would be willing to pay $1k for a set (myself included)

VA72C10 10-21-2011 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by m6z (Post 4965237)
I agree that it would look great, it's just I don't think that a lot of people would be willing to pay $1k for a set (myself included)
:agree: I'd probably only be a customer at 7-800 for a set. And not right now....(no fun $$$ ;))

Probably the reason they've never been made is price and quantity required to make a profit or even break even...

STOCKISH 10-21-2011 10:06 AM
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You are correct. Making them and being able to make a profit is the issue. I agree, However, I would pay $1000 for a set of 20" rallys IF that was the look I was after. Heres a pic (Not My Picture) for reference.

Rochlow 10-21-2011 10:12 AM
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Would totally be interested if they looked like that!

dbstepside 10-21-2011 10:20 AM
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i agree that a 20 inch rally would be cooler than most of the cheaper 20 inch aftermarket wheels so i would think they could be in that price range. i wish you luck and all the guys wanting them. hopefully you'll be able to get this project rolling. i guess i'll keep my lil 15 inchers as i like the way they look with a big fat tire thats cheap enough to be able to leave plenty of rubber on the road on them but someday if you ever get these made i might be able to get some.

m6z 10-21-2011 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by 1972SuperCheyenne (Post 4965276)
You are correct. Making them and being able to make a profit is the issue. I agree, However, I would pay $1000 for a set of 20" rallys IF that was the look I was after. Heres a pic (Not My Picture) for reference.
I agree. $1k for rallys seems resonable. The pict looks great btw. Maybe once you get your final numbers start a thread asking who is in the market and has the money to spend NOW. I'd love for the 20" rallys to be available and I'd be interested in a set down the road, but I don't have a project to put them on at the moment.


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