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padresag 09-27-2017 10:31 AM

Re: '60-'66 Body On A '73-'87 Frame
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LostMy65 (Post 8049047)
The point we keep leading back to is; there is no point in using the newer frames. Just use the original frame. There is nothing, absolutely nothing to gain using the newer frames.
If anything, it's bass ackwards to not use the original frame.
Just bolt up the newer crossmember, and be done with it.
Not to mention we should keep the matching VIN's.

must have something to do with trying to prove their manhood!
ron

LostMy65 09-27-2017 11:38 AM

Re: '60-'66 Body On A '73-'87 Frame
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Clrussell (Post 8049077)
What about in the case of an ls swap into a 61? I'm still researching it all

I wouldn't think it would be much different than putting an LS in a 63-66.
But I did a search and found a few threads on topic:
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=667010

Clrussell 09-27-2017 12:09 PM

Re: '60-'66 Body On A '73-'87 Frame
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LostMy65 (Post 8049132)
I wouldn't think it would be much different than putting an LS in a 63-66.
But I did a search and found a few threads on topic:
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=667010

Wait I just read this thread title is 73-87 never mind! Lol

66Z71 09-27-2017 12:42 PM

Re: '60-'66 Body On A '73-'87 Frame
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by padresag (Post 8049095)
must have something to do with trying to prove their manhood!
ron

My reason was actually quite simple. 11 years less abuse on the frame and suspension plus disk brakes, power steering, and leaf springs. Only thing required was lift the old cab up, and roll the new stuff under it.
The swap is really quite simple. Bolt the body mounts to the cab, drop the cab onto the frame, weld the mounts to the frame. Done.

Eric

padresag 09-27-2017 12:58 PM

Re: '60-'66 Body On A '73-'87 Frame
 
frames are very seldom a problem. most of these swaps are made with boxes on them and most do not alter the w/base to have the tires centred properly which looks a little hokey.
ron

padresag 09-27-2017 02:51 PM

Re: '60-'66 Body On A '73-'87 Frame
 
that is what the guy did to this suburban from page one, just drop thr body on the frame and adapted.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/160...1109221526.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/160...1109221527.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/160...1109221526.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/160...1109221751.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/160...1109221750.jpg
and this was a suburban not just a c & c with a flatdeck
bet he didn't spend that much time on it
ron

argonaut 09-27-2017 06:58 PM

Re: '60-'66 Body On A '73-'87 Frame
 
"Robust"

Flying Hamster 09-27-2017 07:48 PM

Re: '60-'66 Body On A '73-'87 Frame
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by padresag (Post 8049237)
that is what the guy did to this suburban from page one, just drop thr body on the frame and adapted.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/160...1109221527.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/160...1109221526.jpg
and this was a suburban not just a c & c with a flatdeck
bet he didn't spend that much time on it
ron

Wingnuts???
WINGNUTS!!!
Wow.

Blue666(2) 09-27-2017 08:49 PM

Re: '60-'66 Body On A '73-'87 Frame
 
The wingnuts allow quick cab removal for easy cleaning. ;):chevy:

Mack B 09-27-2017 10:21 PM

Re: '60-'66 Body On A '73-'87 Frame
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LostMy65 (Post 8049358)
Just roll the new frame under.... - done.

I can tell you are pretty passionate about this topic, may I ask why it bothers you so much? Please correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't your truck have an earlier frame swapped in?

If I desired to own a 4x4 60-66 this is likely the route I would take. If I had a truck with a damaged frame and the only replacement I could find was a later model, I possibly would try this route was well.

The person you are mocking has a good looking truck. From the pictures he provided the work appears well done. I don't understand the disgruntlement in how others choose to build their trucks.

LostMy65 09-27-2017 10:38 PM

Re: '60-'66 Body On A '73-'87 Frame
 
You're right, that was rude of me. I apologize.
.
For a 4x4, it may be the simplest route.
But for disc brakes and power steering on a 2wd it's best to use one's original frame.
But yes, it bothers me because those who encourage others to do it aren't giving sound advice.
My 65 is on a 62 gmc frame. I did it after I totaled it in the 80's. I was 18 and didn't know better.

Chevyboy02 09-27-2017 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LostMy65 (Post 8049047)
The point we keep leading back to is; there is no point in using the newer frames. Just use the original frame. There is nothing, absolutely nothing to gain using the newer frames.
If anything, it's bass ackwards to not use the original frame.
Just bolt up the newer crossmember, and be done with it.
Not to mention we should keep the matching VIN's.

My frame was wrecked. The entire frame is destroyed. I needed a frame and I found an 83 next door without one spot of rust. Easy decision
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Mack B 09-27-2017 10:51 PM

Re: '60-'66 Body On A '73-'87 Frame
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LostMy65 (Post 8049510)
But yes, it bothers me because those who encourage others to do it aren't giving sound advice.

I can respect that opinion. If ones frame was solid and they only wanted updated suspension, braking etc, there are definitely easier, less intrusive options, but every situation can't be covered under that blanket statement. I'll use this next quote as my example.

Quote:

Originally Posted by LostMy65 (Post 8049510)
My 65 is on a 62 gmc frame. I did it after I totaled it in the 80's. I was 18 and didn't know better.

The fact you where able to get your hands on that frame is likely the only reason your truck is still on the road today. While not ideal, if I didn't have any other options for getting my truck back on the road besides a frame swap...I'd take it.

In my opinion someone showing others it is possible to get good results swapping frames doesn't constitute giving bad advice.

rvrfoot 09-27-2017 10:52 PM

Re: '60-'66 Body On A '73-'87 Frame
 
Some one did a little rigging there.

LostMy65 09-28-2017 05:33 AM

Re: '60-'66 Body On A '73-'87 Frame
 
You guys do realize the point of this thread isn't for those who Need a new frame. It's for those that think it's the easier route for the upgrades the 2 wheel drive guys want. To swap out the original frame for the upgrades isn't a practical route.

Mack B 09-28-2017 08:44 AM

Re: '60-'66 Body On A '73-'87 Frame
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LostMy65 (Post 8049615)
You guys do realize the point of this thread isn't for those who Need a new frame. It's for those that think it's the easier route for the upgrades the 2 wheel drive guys want. To swap out the original frame for the upgrades isn't a practical route.

You do realize that the information contained in a thread on a public forum can be used for other purposes than those intended?

This thread has been bumped multiple times over the years, each time by people looking for more information, the most recent by someone who admits they have a damaged frame. I don't see where I'm off topic here

LostMy65 09-28-2017 09:20 AM

Re: '60-'66 Body On A '73-'87 Frame
 
I surely don't want to get into a pissing match. But I do deserve it.
But for the original purpose of this thread, aligned with what is the purpose for swapping frames, if ones frame is good, there is absolutely no advantage to go to the newer frame. That was the point of my post. Body mounts, frame contour, frame horns, and especially VIN.
But I understand I deserve your method of replies because of my snarky reply to another member.

Mack B 09-28-2017 07:13 PM

Re: '60-'66 Body On A '73-'87 Frame
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LostMy65 (Post 8049699)
I surely don't want to get into a pissing match. But I do deserve it.
But for the original purpose of this thread, aligned with what is the purpose for swapping frames, if ones frame is good, there is absolutely no advantage to go to the newer frame. That was the point of my post. Body mounts, frame contour, frame horns, and especially VIN.
But I understand I deserve your method of replies because of my snarky reply to another member.

I'm absolutely not trying to get into a pissing match either, and no you don't deserve it.
We are all here for the same reason and we all bring something different to the table. We need to be able to share opinions, experiences and be able to disagree without it turning ugly....we are better than politicians;).

LostMy65 09-28-2017 07:18 PM

Re: '60-'66 Body On A '73-'87 Frame
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mack B (Post 8050081)
I'm absolutely not trying to get into a pissing match either, and no you don't deserve it.
We are all here for the same reason and we all bring something different to the table. We need to be able to share opinions, experiences and be able to disagree without it turning ugly....we are better than politicians;).

Thank you!
My bad.

rvrfoot 09-28-2017 10:50 PM

Re: '60-'66 Body On A '73-'87 Frame
 
Oh boy i thought you almost opened a can of worms man.

karlbenz 10-07-2017 01:48 PM

Re: '60-'66 Body On A '73-'87 Frame
 
I would never swap to a square body frame for 2 wheel drive. 4wd on the other hand, would do it again in a heartbeat

LostMy65 10-09-2017 11:59 AM

Re: '60-'66 Body On A '73-'87 Frame
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LostMy65 (Post 7592465)
Back of the 73+ Frame sits at least 3 inches higher than the 60-66 frame. So, if someone wants a 4x4 truck, or it to look like a 4x4, then go ahead with this swap.
Otherwise, one would have to do some frame or cab surgery.

http://i1106.photobucket.com/albums/...psi8goc5dv.jpg

I'm going to start a thread where I overlay different frames with the 63-66 frame along with a greyscale of the cab and such so we can visually see see where things line up or not.

LostMy65 10-09-2017 06:14 PM

Re: '60-'66 Body On A '73-'87 Frame
 
Now this is an interesting swap:
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=688570

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LostMy65 10-11-2017 06:12 PM

Re: '60-'66 Body On A '73-'87 Frame
 
What about our body on a 1999 or newer LS equipped frame?

padresag 10-11-2017 06:27 PM

Re: '60-'66 Body On A '73-'87 Frame
 
this is how the fellow compensated for the frame difference on the back end of this one
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/160...1109221750.jpg
ron


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