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msg 03-03-2013 12:12 PM

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Thank you for doing this write up, I am definitely going to use this!!!

JWheeler331 05-27-2013 05:04 PM

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Just took mine all apart today to see what all I need.

I have some bad overspray black pain on my lens. Does the replacement Lens from someone like LMC come with the speedo numbers and warning light areas already painted on the glass?

Lugnutz65 05-27-2013 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by JWheeler331 (Post 6092962)
Just took mine all apart today to see what all I need.

I have some bad overspray black pain on my lens. Does the replacement Lens from someone like LMC come with the speedo numbers and warning light areas already painted on the glass?

The greenish numbers and stuff is printed on the back of the lens. I wet sanded the front of mine starting with 1000 grit and finished with 2500 or 3000 grit, I can't remember exactly. Anyway, to finish, I used polish that is for glass stove tops. I don't know what aftermarket lenses look like, but I bet you can save yours.

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T2vigil 05-27-2013 05:56 PM

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Great write up. Thanks for sharing.

theastronaut 05-27-2013 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Lugnutz65 (Post 6093044)
The greenish numbers and stuff is printed on the back of the lens. I wet sanded the front of mine starting with 1000 grit and finished with 2500 or 3000 grit, I can't remember exactly. Anyway, to finish, I used polish that is for glass stove tops. I don't know what aftermarket lenses look like, but I bet you can save yours.

This works well, I used the same process on mine although I haven't tried that polish. I (lightly!) used a wool pad and 3M polish to polish out the sanding scratches, then switched to a foam pad and used swirl remover to remove the buffer marks. The aftermarket lenses can benefit from sanding/buffing the front to make them "clearer" since there is a slight bit of distortion in the new lenses. It's not bad, I'm just picky about that kind of stuff.... :lol:

Budman56 06-05-2013 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by theastronaut (Post 6093261)
This works well, I used the same process on mine although I haven't tried that polish. I (lightly!) used a wool pad and 3M polish to polish out the sanding scratches, then switched to a foam pad and used swirl remover to remove the buffer marks. The aftermarket lenses can benefit from sanding/buffing the front to make them "clearer" since there is a slight bit of distortion in the new lenses. It's not bad, I'm just picky about that kind of stuff.... :lol:

Theastronaut

What font style and size did you use for the over speed and tand'm lock?
I am looking at century gothic 7 point (size) bold it looks close.

theastronaut 06-05-2013 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Budman56 (Post 6109393)
Theastronaut

What font style and size did you use for the over speed and tand'm lock?
I am looking at century gothic 7 point (size) bold it looks close.

That looks just like what I used. It's been 3-4 years since I printed them so I don't remember the name of the font. I printed them out on plain paper to test the size and spacing, then made any adjustments in MS Paint.
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RoyL 06-16-2013 11:04 AM

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great detailed write-up!
Have you had any issues with grounding of the bulbs with the clear coat? Mine has been painted with silver, and occasionally, I'll get a blinker issue, and it goes away after re-seating the bulb socket assy into the cluster... I don't know if the original clusters were painted?

theastronaut 06-16-2013 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by RoyL (Post 6125920)
great detailed write-up!
Have you had any issues with grounding of the bulbs with the clear coat? Mine has been painted with silver, and occasionally, I'll get a blinker issue, and it goes away after re-seating the bulb socket assy into the cluster... I don't know if the original clusters were painted?

Thanks RoyL! The original housings were bare steel with a clear coating to prevent rust. You bring up a good point that I hadn't thought of, it would be a good idea to clean off the clear/paint around the sockets and add dielectric grease for a better ground. I haven't had any problems with mine since its still on the shelf waiting for the rest of the truck to be finished... :lol:
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JWheeler331 06-23-2013 05:51 PM

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I am in the middle of restoring mine and was following this pretty closely.

Now it seems all the pictures are gone. Is this just on my end or did you remove the photobucket pics.

Lugnutz65 06-23-2013 05:55 PM

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It's not you. Notice that some pics from other folks (mine for instance) are still there. Astronaut must have accidently moved his pics or messed up his account. Don't worry, he'll fix it.

jayoldschool 06-23-2013 06:13 PM

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I think he's just over on bandwidth. They'll come back.

JWheeler331 06-23-2013 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Lugnutz65 (Post 6138604)
It's not you. Notice that some pics from other folks (mine for instance) are still there. Astronaut must have accidently moved his pics or messed up his account. Don't worry, he'll fix it.


Just making sure it was not me.

I was able to complete my project for this. I did not do a full out restoration but rather just touched mine up a bunch. When I get my new motor complete I will start my miles back to zero and actually put the new sticker numbers and letters on.

For this go around I did the following;

Took apart and cleaned.
Wiped down the speedo and gas gauge.
Daughter took the model paint and repainted the speedo and gas needle.
Painted the bezel
Painted the interior and exterior of the encasement
Painted the black/green door/window piece. (not sure what its called....the piece that the glass sits on top of).
Redone all of the red/green light parts
Cleaned up the lens the best I could. It was pretty rough with overspray and scratches. I think it done okay for now. Again, when I get my new motor ready I will replace the lens, bezel, and actual speedo and gas gauge faces.

Thank you very much for this thread to help a newbie like myself have the confidence to tackle this.

Here are a few pictures.

When I first took it apart

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Some of the process

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Put back together

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Again, thank you for your how to thread. It was a big help.

Lugnutz65 06-23-2013 09:08 PM

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Hey, WOW! That looks great! You did a nice job. There are many great contributors on this website. TheAstronaut is one of them! Did you line the carboard tubes with foil tape?

JWheeler331 06-23-2013 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Lugnutz65 (Post 6138913)
Hey, WOW! That looks great! You did a nice job. There are many great contributors on this website. TheAstronaut is one of them! Did you line the carboard tubes with foil tape?


I didn't do that. I used two 3 layers of the colored transparent stuff and was afraid of it was any brighter when lit up that it would shine through too much. When I hook it up I will know for sure. If its dim I may do that. This transparent stuff is much more thin than the original.
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Lugnutz65 06-24-2013 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by JWheeler331 (Post 6139209)
I didn't do that. I used two 3 layers of the colored transparent stuff and was afraid of it was any brighter when lit up that it would shine through too much. When I hook it up I will know for sure. If its dim I may do that. This transparent stuff is much more thin than the original.
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I also used the transparent plastic film. I used 3 or 4 layers to try and match the original color. How many layers did you use?
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theastronaut 06-24-2013 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by JWheeler331 (Post 6138595)
I am in the middle of restoring mine and was following this pretty closely.

Now it seems all the pictures are gone. Is this just on my end or did you remove the photobucket pics.

I'm over the bandwidth allowance for the month... they'll come back once it resets for the month. Your cluster looks great!!

JWheeler331 06-24-2013 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Lugnutz65 (Post 6139553)
I also used the transparent plastic film. I used 3 or 4 layers to try and match the original color. How many layers did you use?
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I ended up using three for the red and think I put in an extra one giving me 4 for the green cold water temp.

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Originally Posted by theastronaut (Post 6139723)
I'm over the bandwidth allowance for the month... they'll come back once it resets for the month. Your cluster looks great!!


Thanks. There is more that could have been done for this one but I am happy with the way it turned out.

Lugnutz65 06-24-2013 10:57 AM

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. . . was afraid if it was any brighter when lit up that it would shine through too much.
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I thought about using LED but then you can't dim them. They stay the same brightness. Then again, I have the dimmer all the way up on all my vehicles, so I doubt that I would dim them anyway.

I did bench test my gauge lights (all stock bulbs) after my resto and I think the 3 or 4 layers will look just right.

JWheeler331 06-24-2013 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Lugnutz65 (Post 6139838)
I thought about using LED but then you can't dim them. They stay the same brightness. Then again, I have the dimmer all the way up on all my vehicles, so I doubt that I would dim them anyway.

I did bench test my gauge lights (all stock bulbs) after my resto and I think the 3 or 4 layers will look just right.


I put a flashlight with about the same brightness in the back and checked them out. I think it will shine nicely when in the truck.

Budman56 06-24-2013 12:37 PM

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Thank you for your (How to) I have now completed my cluster too.....

JWheeler331 06-24-2013 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Budman56 (Post 6139998)
Thank you for your (How to) I have now completed my cluster too.....



Looks great. I really want a cluster with the real gauges so I can have a tac also.

theastronaut 06-24-2013 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Budman56 (Post 6139998)
Thank you for your (How to) I have now completed my cluster too.....

You're welcome, glad to be a help! And great job on the cluster!

theastronaut 06-24-2013 03:15 PM

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Pics are back up!

Acksman 08-18-2013 06:44 PM

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This is a great guide. I have been following it step by step. There was only a couple of places I changed things.

On the intermediate plate I was able to soda blast and came out without any warping or pitting. Did a nice job.

Also on the back of the intermediate plate I used Krylon Glowz to see if that will help with a brighter cluster. Here is the Glowz http://www.krylon.com/products/glowz/

Still waiting on a few parts to finish, but will post some pics once I'm done.


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