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chevy_man5 10-26-2011 04:52 PM

Re: '60 GMC 4x4 Long Fenderside
 
<<< Hey look I'm Blue now!! :metal:

Since I scored the hood off of Craigslist is anyone interested in my existing hood? I will put an ad up on the for sale section hopefully tonight. Just asking here to see if there is any interest.

chevy_man5 10-27-2011 11:32 PM

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Haven’t been updating much. My son and I have been working on it off and on just about every weekend.

We rebuilt the carb and changed the oil. Changing the oil was fun. Hadn’t dealt with a canister style filter before. The filter I bought was the same part number as the on in there, but the gasket that came with the filter was way too small. After spending about 30 minutes scrounging for a gasket that would fit, I finally just got some cut your own gasket material, and cut my own.

When we were cleaning up under the truck, a damn wasp fell out of the truck and landed on my sons arm. When I brushed it off him, the little bugger nailed me in the hand. Unfortunately for me, I am allergic. I popped a bunch of children’s Benadryl, grabbed my epi pen, and hoped for no trip to the hospital. It all turned out OK. I swelled up a bunch, but didn’t stop breathing, so that is an upside!

The next weekend we started cleaning out all the wasps. We filled a walmart bag with nests.

I had been noticing stuff sticking out behind the headlights. We pulled out a huge bird nest.

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/gallery/.../Bird_Nest.JPG


We also found a mouse nest.

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/gallery/...Mouse_Nest.JPG


We took a bunch of pictures of the brakes, and the underside of the truck.


Does anyone know where I could get new parking light lenses, and or housings for new hood?

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/gallery/...ark_Lights.JPG


I showed my son how to find TDC. We looked under the dist cap, and it was out of wack, so reset it. We took the fuel pump off, took it apart, cleaned it up, and have it ready to put back on. We got some hardline, to replace the rubber line that was on it.


I sold a 1BBL carb that was in a bucket in the truck, which is what funded my turning blue!!

chevy_man5 10-27-2011 11:57 PM

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Found some weird stuff on the suspension. It looks like there was some kind of helper springs under the front end. Maybe for the plow?


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The rear suspension looks a little off too. Is any of this front or rear stock?


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I think that these bolts may be just a little bit too long!

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The engine appeared to be nice and clean inside

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That’s all for now. My son will be over this weekend, so we’ll get back on it.

chevy_man5 10-29-2011 05:40 PM

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Didn't get much done on the truck today so far. My son and I carved pumpkins and goofed off most of the day instead.

pope 10-30-2011 05:49 PM

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looks like the rear axle had been switched out, and they bent all thread to make the u bolts. the axle has a set of shock mounts and rubber bump stops that dont belong...The lift blocks with the shock mounts on the bottom is correct for 60 through part of 63 production 4wd.
Nice pumpkin carving!

Dub_X 10-30-2011 09:34 PM

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@ Pope - I do believe that it's definitely not the factory axle, actually I don't even think it's GM

Because - Jason, isn't there a pic on this thread of the rear differential, and if I'm right doesn't it say '74 or '73 Ford?

chevy_man5 10-31-2011 12:19 AM

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Will, back on page 3 post #65 the diff cover says 74 F@rd.

I'll have to look and see if F@rds of that era ran the Dana 44's also.

If it is a F@rd, will that matter any if the front end is still GM, or will it only matter if they are the same gear ratio?

Pope, thanks for the information, and the pumpkin compliment. My son will be happy to hear it.

I'll look up some info on F@rd, and see if they ran the Dana 44's, and if so, if they looked like what I have.

Thanks for the help, I need all I can get!!!

Dub_X 10-31-2011 07:33 AM

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I don't know much about axles and gear ratios, but you never know. Hopefully you won't have to go rear-end hunting.

Pumpkins are very creative, by the way. Wish we had carved pumpkins this year, but we didn't. Oh well, always next year.

chevy_man5 10-31-2011 08:40 AM

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I think the ratio is the only thing that matters because they are actually made by Dana, it shouldn't (in theory) matter what they came on, I hope.

I don't know much about them either, that's why I am posting it on here, so people smarter them me can help out!! LOL

Thanks for the compliment on the pumpkins too Will. They turned out pretty good, and look cool lit up.

We didn't get much done on the truck this weekend. Mostly straightened up the garage, and put away tools. It was getting to a point where we couldn't find anything. :lol:

We cleaned out the cowl and the vents in the cab. We also added some heat in the garage for the upcoming colder months. We cut a hole in the side of the furnace ducting and put in a register. It seems to work pretty good!

Dub_X 10-31-2011 08:49 AM

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Quote:

We didn't get much done on the truck this weekend. Mostly straightened up the garage, and put away tools. It was getting to a point where we couldn't find anything.
I know how that is. Me and my dad can almost never find our tools. A few months ago we finally went through our mess of a tool shed [Our shed is a 48 foot semi trailer that had the front crunched, so it's missing about 10 feet, making it more 38.] We found sockets, wrenches, ratchets, and a bunch of other crap that we haven't been able to find in 3 years. We're still missing a lot, but at least we know where most things are when we need them...like 18mm wrenches that we've got at least a dozen of...and at this moment can only find three.

pope 10-31-2011 07:03 PM

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The only thing to really worry about is keeping the ratios close. Within 1% for highway use and up to 2% if you are really only going to be off road with it in 4wd. I am pretty sure that Both the blue oval and GMC ran the Dana (spicer in the day) as rear axles while Chevy ran the Eaton and Corperate rear. The dana 44 was pretty well used by everyone as a front diff, with the blue oval running a driver side pumpkin while GM and Dodge ran pass side pumpkins. The nice thing about running a Dana axle is you can easily match the ratios and there are so many options for gear sets. The Eaton rears on the other hand were limited to 4.10 as a high for production gears with an aftermarket 3.90 that has been out of production for some time.

chevy_man5 10-31-2011 09:38 PM

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Pope thank you for the info. I wanted to change out the fluid in the diffs anyway, so will count the teeth when I have them open, and see where they are at. I would hope that when they replaced the rear, they matched the front, but I better make sure!

The front and rear covers are the same, and according to someone earlier, they are Dana 44's.

I was meaning to get the numbers of of the axles, to see if I can translate them into some information, but didn't get that far tonight. Too many little munchkins ringing my doorbell tonight.



Will, what in the world are you doing with a dozen 18mm wrenches??? LOL

Dub_X 11-01-2011 01:18 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by chevy_man5 (Post 4984096)
Pope thank you for the info. I wanted to change out the fluid in the diffs anyway, so will count the teeth when I have them open, and see where they are at. I would hope that when they replaced the rear, they matched the front, but I better make sure!

The front and rear covers are the same, and according to someone earlier, they are Dana 44's.

I was meaning to get the numbers of of the axles, to see if I can translate them into some information, but didn't get that far tonight. Too many little munchkins ringing my doorbell tonight.



Will, what in the world are you doing with a dozen 18mm wrenches??? LOL

Me and my dad have collected a lot of wrenches over the years. More than just 18mm. Lol. Just from collecting over the years, that's all.

KroAutomotiveInc 11-20-2011 08:30 PM

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looking good man wanna trade trucks lol! ive been pulling bee hives out of my truck for 2 years lol found one just the other day never had a bird or mouse nest tho !

chevy_man5 11-20-2011 08:48 PM

Re: '60 GMC 4x4 Long Fenderside
 
Let me think about it...nope, I think I'll keep mine!! Thanks for asking though! LOL

Mine sat in a field for 9+ years, so I am surprised that the mouse/bird/wasp problem is not worse than it is.

I haven't gotten much done lately, life keeps getting in my way. Oh well, I'll get back to it soon!

Corts60 11-21-2011 12:14 AM

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[QUOTE=chevy_man5;4977578]Does anyone know where I could get new parking light lenses, and or housings for new hood?QUOTE]

Those are not reproduced and probably a good chance they won't be anytime soon unfortunately. The GMC hood's are not very popular and there are relatively few around.

chevy_man5 11-21-2011 09:31 AM

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Thanks Cort. That was not what I hoped to hear, but, was what I was expecting.

I hadn't thought about it before, but I just sent the guy I bought the better hood from a message, to see if he still happens to have the ones that should have been in there.

Something will turn up!

chevy_man5 11-27-2011 07:49 PM

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We haven't done much lately, but I have come up with a little update / question list.

I haven’t seen any mirrors that look like this one in other people’s trucks. Is this stock, or maybe old aftermarket?


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We pulled off the trans hump, and found the gasket / seal underneath it looks like it has never been off of the truck. It had an OLD piece of masking tape on each of the corners, and holding in the ends.

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/gallery/..._Hump_Seal.JPG


Part of the groove the seal is in is pretty rusty, so we pulled the seal out. Under most of the seal, was what looked like brand new paint, and some kind of glue.

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/gallery/...ump_Seal_2.JPG


I have been meaning to ask if anyone knows what this tag might be for on the water pump.

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/gallery/...erpump_Tag.JPG

Dub_X 11-28-2011 02:06 AM

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LOL, Jason, that tape would be perfect for an old antique museum or something. "Yes, I have here 2 strips of 51-year-old tape...that came off my truck...and they're still intact." Lmao.

Corts60 11-28-2011 12:21 PM

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Hey Jason,

That tag on the water pump is some kind of assembly line tag. Both of my v6's have had them. I can't find any info on what exactly they mean, but I think it is worth hanging onto just in case somewhere down the road we find out what their purpose was.

chevy_man5 11-28-2011 12:47 PM

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Cort, are they the #035 also, or a different number? I was just wondering if maybe the water pump was part #35 to go on the engine, or something along those lines.

What kind of mirror was in your truck and your burb? Is it like the one in mine, or the 3 hole one?

Corts60 11-28-2011 09:08 PM

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I want to say it is 039 but maybe it was 035. I don't have my truck here to go look unfortunately. Both my engines were 305A's.

Also, my truck had the three hole mirror and my suburban has this one:
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/e...6/SDC16404.jpg

Corts60 11-28-2011 09:10 PM

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:dohh:

You meant the inside mirror didn't you? It was a three hole one in my truck and the suburan didn't have one at all. It didn't even have holes in the roof for one, but I took the one out of my truck and installed it.

chevy_man5 11-29-2011 12:00 AM

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LOL That is quite a crazy looking side mirror. Thanks for the input!

C@rnut001 12-23-2011 12:56 AM

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I really like your truck. Wish I had one like it up here in Alaska. I would keep the stepside style bed. Keep up the work and keep us updated.

chevy_man5 12-23-2011 01:49 AM

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Thanks C@rnut001!! The 4wd would be handy up there! How far are you from North Pole? I have a friend that is a nurse there.

With the divorce pending, I haven't been doing much on the truck. She wants my truck in the divorce. She knows it is rare, and thinks it is worth a bunch. She is not taking into account that it needs A LOT of work to make it worth anything. So I am kind of waiting to see what the fallout is, and just messing with it a little here and there for now.

We did take apart the heater core, and cleaned it all out, but other than that, not much!

What truck(s) do you have?

C@rnut001 12-23-2011 02:50 AM

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I am in rural southwestern Alaska, quite a ways from Fairbanks and North Pole. I currently don't have a truck of my own. I am driving a school owned '93 Chevy Suburban and have to fix it on a normal basis. I tried to buy an old '70 Chevy 1/2 ton 4X4 with an inline 6 in it. The family that owns it really don't want to sell it (actually, the guy did, but his wife said no...imagine that....). I had a '66 Chevy 1/2 ton longbed fleetside that only had 80,000 on it. Sold it to my brother and he still has it and plans to restore it (it sat for 15 years after the farmer's son whose estate I bought it from had died and he never drove it again). Anyway, I think I will try to convince this family to give up their '70 again. Hope you don't lose your truck in your big D... though I don't see how she is claiming it since you owned it before and her name was never on the title (if I remember everything you said about it). Good luck with it all.

chevy_man5 12-23-2011 10:35 AM

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That sucks you weren't able to pick up that '70. Oh well, something will come along.

A few weeks ago, I looked back at the title, and was mistaken earlier, the truck was titled in my name 2 months after we got married. I thought it was before. OOPS. It has been in my name only the entire time though, so hopefully that will mean something. We'll see. It'll either work out, or it won't!

McMurphy 12-24-2011 12:31 AM

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Hey there Jason,
I live in North Pole.... just sayin... LOL

chevy_man5 12-24-2011 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by McMurphy (Post 5080881)
Hey there Jason,
I live in North Pole.... just sayin... LOL

I noticed that on another thread, saw you were in the military, and was going to ask you, but spaced it off. :uhmk: She works in the ER Dept of the military hospital up there. She is not in the Army any more, but still is associated with it.

(edit) I just skimmed through your build, and caught that you work in the OR.

Dub_X 12-24-2011 02:09 PM

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Hoping to see an update soon Jason, sucks that she wants the truck out of the divorce. But considering her name wasn't on the title, I don't see how she'd be able to get it. And I think the judge would be very much in the wrong to award it to her. Hopefully it all goes well, and her plans won't work. Sounds to me like you're going through what my dad's friend Dave went through with his first wife.

thirdstreettito 02-22-2012 12:19 AM

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Updates?

chevy_man5 02-22-2012 10:44 AM

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Still waiting on the divorce. We had a pretrial back on 2/10/12, and the judge ordered mediation for property division. Next court date is 3/16/12, so everyone keep your fingers crossed!!

My son and I spent some time working on a radio idea for the truck, or for the next truck, depending on what happens. We also went and helped another site member work on his truck the last couple of weekends. It felt good to actually work on a truck again!!

duallyjams 02-22-2012 08:31 PM

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Good luck. If you need a place to put your truck I have plenty of room and far enough away that no one will find it.

chevy_man5 02-22-2012 10:27 PM

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:lol: I don't think that would work! Thanks though!

FAT TONY 02-24-2012 12:24 AM

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why not sell the truck to a friend for around one or two dollars, the court might ask you to split the money 50/50 , not much any way, and then after you are done with the divorce buy it back for the same price :D

chevy_man5 02-24-2012 08:54 AM

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I thought about it, but cannot sell or transfer any property after the divorce has been filed. She has been selling things "for living expenses", but they would throw the book at me, so I am not even going to risk it. She doesn't even just want half of the profit, she wants the truck. I'm sure her boyfriend has his eye on it.

I don't think she (they) even realize what all the truck needs. The brakes are shot, all of the wheel cylinders leak, or are frozen, the drums are WAY thin. The clutch is stuck disengaged, and the cylinder for it doesn't seem to do anything. The engine turned over, but I have no idea if it is good or not at this point. There is rust everywhere, normal for these trucks. The wiring is almost totally gone, and or shot. There is a nasty grinding noise coming out of the rear diff when we turn the wheels. Other than those things, plus others I am sure I have forgotten, it is a great truck!! LOL

Next court date is the middle of next month, so hopefully, I will know what is happening then, and be able to move on with my life. I just want to be done with her!!

FAT TONY 02-24-2012 02:23 PM

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man i hope it all goes well at the end, people now a days do things without thinking about it, im guessing they are hoping to just get the truck and drive it home like if it is in working condition, i wish you good luck on staying with your truck, it is a pretty nice truck, by the way i remember you posting about pics of 60 - 61 long step side , i have a 64 long step side maybe i can upload a picture and you can take a look at it, its almost the same design

chevy_man5 02-24-2012 06:11 PM

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Any pictures you have of it would be appreciated. I would like to get some from each side, as centered as possible up, down, and left right, that way they are easier for me to mess around with using my LIMITED photo editing capabilities. LOL

If you want to send me some pictures, I can PM you my e-mail address, then they won't be limited down by the sites picture sizing, if that's OK with you.

Thanks you!

FAT TONY 02-24-2012 06:16 PM

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yes it is ok with me, just let me know your email and ill go outside right now to take some pictures


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