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leddzepp 12-11-2012 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by GMCPaul (Post 5750712)
These are not drop shipped we ship them direct from our warehouse in Indiana. they do come to us pre-packaged though. It only takes a few seconds with a pair of side cuts or a razor knife to cut the bulb portion of seal at either end where they meet under the door sill plate. DEFINATELY MAKE THIS CUT, by cutting it it tnen allows the seal to properly release the trapped air when closing the door. SO DO NOT JUST BUTT THE ENDS TOGETHER WITHOUT CUTTING THEM unless you want your doors to close HARD.
GM instructs you in the 67-72 Truck Service Manuals to also perform this cut when installing the seals even if there is a minor gap where ends meet and they also state the reason for this is to provide air passage.
Paul Jr @ GMCPauls

When I bought mine they came from one of your warehouses in California...that is why I had to pay sales tax as well ;) ... just sayin'

GMCPaul 12-11-2012 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by leddzepp (Post 5752468)
When I bought mine they came from one of your warehouses in California...that is why I had to pay sales tax as well ;) ... just sayin'

No, the seals ship from Wis. to us in Indiana,
we then ship All the seals from the Indiana warehouse. We have to charge CA. residents what Calif. refers to as Use Tax because rather than have to pay shipping on many of the heavy & large items that we get from West coast suppliers we instead lease space in a CA. suppliers warehouse and ship these items from the West coast. Since we lease space they consider us to have a presence in the state so we have to collect Calif. use tax on Everything sold and shipped to a customer in Calif. whether it ships from in Calif. or if it comes from Indiana, Texas, Virginia, Mich. etc..
We do try to make sure as much as possible ships from within CA to our CA customers to speed delivery but since we don't get these seals from CA we don't ship them there as that would add to costs not reduce them which is what we are trying to achieve while also speeding delivery.
Paul Jr @ GMCPauls

leddzepp 12-11-2012 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by GMCPaul (Post 5752775)
No, the seals ship from Wis. to us in Indiana,
we then ship All the seals from the Indiana warehouse. We have to charge CA. residents what Calif. refers to as Use Tax because rather than have to pay shipping on many of the heavy & large items that we get from West coast suppliers we instead lease space in a CA. suppliers warehouse and ship these items from the West coast. Since we lease space they consider us to have a presence in the state so we have to collect Calif. use tax on Everything sold and shipped to a customer in Calif. whether it ships from in Calif. or if it comes from Indiana, Texas, Virginia, Mich. etc..
We do try to make sure as much as possible ships from within CA to our CA customers to speed delivery but since we don't get these seals from CA we don't ship them there as that would add to costs not reduce them which is what we are trying to achieve while also speeding delivery.
Paul Jr @ GMCPauls

Well, however it works, I end up paying both shipping and sales tax....I have never had to do that when buying anything else from a vendor that is located out of state. Unfortunately now I have to go with other vendors, as paying both tax and shipping makes things cost prohibitive. :chevy:

GMCPaul 12-11-2012 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by leddzepp (Post 5752859)
Well, however it works, I end up paying both shipping and sales tax....I have never had to do that when buying anything else from a vendor that is located out of state. Unfortunately now I have to go with other vendors, as paying both tax and shipping makes things cost prohibitive. :chevy:

We fully understand. We have to do it this way though otherwise we risk being sued like Amazon is and some of the other online sales companies that sell a product then ship from a warehouse lease or a suppliers warehouse located in the same state as the customer and then do not collect and remit that state sales or use tax.
Paul Sr @ GMCPauls

special-K 01-26-2013 08:57 PM

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States are getting greedy on tax,bottom line. It's as if they think they're the only ones having a tough time in this economy. They take from those who pay them. These days they are going after swap meets and flea markets for sales tax from non-business individuals who are trying to make ends meet selling items for less than they paid and already paid sales tax on. Now my state wants to add a 10 cent per gallon fuel tax. That'll really help the economy...yeah right. Like they say,"Don't steal,the gov't hates the competition". Bottom line,don't blame businesses for abiding by the rules imposed upon them. Shipping costs money wherever it comes from and that's the money you save waiting at home for it. I'm buying paint soon and will be looking to buy a set of these,whatever the cost,solely based on fit,quality,ease of installation,and mostly a great reputation

~Whitey~ 02-22-2013 04:58 PM

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What is the part number for these push on door seals? Didn't see the number listed anywhere in this thread and want to be 100% sure I get the right ones.

Is this them on this page?
http://www.gmcpauls.com/door_parts2.htm

67-72 Door Opening Weather Strip - Pair
139684
67-72 Door Opening Weather Strip with mitered corner Correct Style And Fit. Just Like Originals Sold and Priced In Pairs. Attaches to cab to seal door to cab opening when door is shut.

the description doesn't say anything about them being push on or having a metal strip in them.

GMCPaul 02-25-2013 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by 69swb (Post 5905891)
What is the part number for these push on door seals? Didn't see the number listed anywhere in this thread and want to be 100% sure I get the right ones.

Is this them on this page?
http://www.gmcpauls.com/door_parts2.htm

67-72 Door Opening Weather Strip - Pair
139684
67-72 Door Opening Weather Strip with mitered corner Correct Style And Fit. Just Like Originals Sold and Priced In Pairs. Attaches to cab to seal door to cab opening when door is shut.

the description doesn't say anything about them being push on or having a metal strip in them.

You cut and pasted only a portion of the description for the part in question you were asking about, below is the full description and last line explains that these require glue to install.

67-72 Door Opening Weather Strip Pair
Part # 139684
67-72 Door opening weather strip, correct style and fit just like originals. Highest quality available, sold and priced in pairs. LIFETIME WARRANTY To Original Purchaser Manufactured By Precision. Requires 3M weatherstrip glue or similar to install. $30.95


67-72 Push-On Door Opening Weatherstrip
RATED #1 By Our Customers Over Original Style Glue On Door Seals Pair
Part # 2660241
1967-72 Door door opening weatherstrip attaches to cab and seals door to cab, sold in pairs. A Glue Less, Push-on Alternative to factory 67-72 door seals. These push on, and will conform to the stock 45 degree mitered corner above the vent window assembly. And the more bulbous seal, seals tighter than 67-72 factory replacement seals , the exposed part of the seal on the inside the cab is much cleaner looking also. For Pickup doors only. LIFETIME WARRANTY To Original Purchaser Manufactured By Precision. $49.95

So the correct part # for the push-on door opening weatherstrip is
2660241
these are located directly below the glue on original style that you asked about.
Paul Jr @ GMCPauls

~Whitey~ 02-26-2013 11:07 AM

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Thanks Paul, I was looking under door parts and on that page
http://www.gmcpauls.com/door_parts2.htm

the push ons are not listed, however the glue on ones part#139684 are listed but do not say whether they are glue on.

Then on this page http://www.gmcpauls.com/Pickup.htm
They are listed as you say, stating they are glue on...
Anyway just a heads up you might want to fix that on the door_parts2 page.

Thanks again for pointing me to the right part and number for the push on version of them. Part# 2660241

Jimmy

GMCPaul 02-26-2013 11:53 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 69swb (Post 5913881)
Thanks Paul, I was looking under door parts and on that page
http://www.gmcpauls.com/door_parts2.htm

the push ons are not listed, however the glue on ones part#139684 are listed but do not say whether they are glue on.

Then on this page http://www.gmcpauls.com/Pickup.htm
They are listed as you say, stating they are glue on...
Anyway just a heads up you might want to fix that on the door_parts2 page.

Thanks again for pointing me to the right part and number for the push on version of them. Part# 2660241

Jimmy

Thanks for the heads up on that page only saying they were like original and not stating they were glue on, the page has been edited to show these are a glue on door seal and we've added the push-on style to that page also.
Thanks Again!!
Paul

~Whitey~ 02-28-2013 04:10 PM

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Thank you Paul, ordering my set now.

newbe351 04-01-2013 03:19 PM

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I didn't read through all four pages of this thread (probably should), but I think that I read somewhere in the 60-66 pages that these can be used on the 60-66 trucks even though they are not listed as such. Can these be used on the 60-66 trucks and will they hide the ugly black mess my painter left behind trying to glue on the LMC/Brothers/whatever door seals that were just installed? Whatever he used for glue softened the paint around the door seals and now the seals are pulling away leaving a black slimy mess.......

GMCPaul 04-02-2013 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by newbe351 (Post 5985035)
I didn't read through all four pages of this thread (probably should), but I think that I read somewhere in the 60-66 pages that these can be used on the 60-66 trucks even though they are not listed as such. Can these be used on the 60-66 trucks and will they hide the ugly black mess my painter left behind trying to glue on the LMC/Brothers/whatever door seals that were just installed? Whatever he used for glue softened the paint around the door seals and now the seals are pulling away leaving a black slimy mess.......

We've had several dozen customers purchase these seals for the 60-66 trucks and all that have responded regarding fit & finish have been very pleased. If you read through the first 2-3 pages on this post you'll see where a few of these owners have replied regarding these such as

ChewyChevy67 saying
Quote-
yes i used these on my 67 and my 64. they are a hare tight on the 64 but should break in just fine. better than anything else ive tried and i aint using the glue on's ever again. there just a mess. End Quote

But we do not market these for the 60-66 door opening weatherstrips as I myself thought that the door close just a little hard when installed on the 60-66 trucks. So if you wish to purchase these for a 60-66 you will need to visit our 67-72 parts section and click on the Rubber & Weatherstrip link then click on Pickup. Once your on that page you'll find our 67-72 Glue on style listed just above the push-on version that requires no glue.
Paul @ GMCPauls
Paul @ GMCPauls

newbe351 04-02-2013 12:55 PM

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Thanks Paul,

I did go back and read all four pages after I commented, but it was too late to edit my post. My doors shut really, really hard now with whatever seals are in there (will have to check for the gap at the ends under the door sill) and they are pulling away and leaving quite a mess. For $49, I think I will try the 67 push-on seals.

Thanks again for the response.....

BugzC10 04-06-2013 02:55 PM

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I agree...the push on door seals are fantastic. Super easy install, great fit. My truck had pretty decent looking seals, but had to slam the doors. Refurbished my hinges and doors, installed GMCPauls seals. Could not be happier. :metal:
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greystoke 07-06-2013 11:46 AM

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Hey Paul,
What's the best way to get these seals over the lip at the bottom of the door, this lip in nearly a quarter inch wide and there's very little space between it's edge and cab floor on my dad's 71. Hopefully you can see what I'm referring to in the image

GMCPaul 07-08-2013 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by greystoke (Post 6159403)
Hey Paul,
What's the best way to get these seals over the lip at the bottom of the door, this lip in nearly a quarter inch wide and there's very little space between it's edge and cab floor on my dad's 71. Hopefully you can see what I'm referring to in the image

The problem is the cab was repaired incorrectly as the gap between rocker & floor edge should be 7/16"-1/2"
So your floor is either protruding 3/16'-1/4" or the rocker top edge is pulled in that far. You might try crimping the top edge of the rocker lip slightly to gain any additional clearance needed to install them.
Paul ( owner ) @ GMCPauls

greystoke 07-08-2013 11:43 AM

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Thanks for your response, we didn't repair the cab but someone probably did. We trimmed a little of that edge off and were able to get the seals on with no issues.

RPIcka 07-08-2013 11:57 AM

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I wish I could try these out. Can GMCPaul please contact me as all my emails have gone in answered
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GMCPaul 07-08-2013 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by RPIcka (Post 6162469)
I wish I could try these out. Can GMCPaul please contact me as all my emails have gone in answered
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We are not ignoring your emails. WE DO NOT IGNORE EMAILS EVER.
If you are not getting a reply its got to be 1 of 2-3 things.
#1 For some reason we are not receiving the email.
Try using someone else's email to contact us that uses a different email provider
#2 Or you have a email account where if you do not pre-approve those emailing you the person you email after they reply receives a email from your provider they must then fill out a form to seek your approval to reply. we do not EVER fill out the form in this case.
Try using someone else's email to contact us that uses a different email provider
#3 We are replying but your email provider rejects our email.
Try using someone else's email to contact us that uses a different email provider
i notice your Canada so if you want to know do we ship outside the USA, the answer would be no.
Paul ( owner ) @ GMCPauls

Chvy2NV 07-08-2013 08:11 PM

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Great info Paul.

Quote:

Originally Posted by GMCPaul (Post 6162424)
The problem is the cab was repaired incorrectly as the gap between rocker & floor edge should be 7/16"-1/2"
So your floor is either protruding 3/16'-1/4" or the rocker top edge is pulled in that far. You might try crimping the top edge of the rocker lip slightly to gain any additional clearance needed to install them.
Paul ( owner ) @ GMCPauls

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RPIcka 07-09-2013 01:03 AM

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Anyone mind ordering a set of these and shipping them up to Canada for me? Us Canadians need the good stuff too.

greystoke 07-14-2013 06:14 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GMCPaul (Post 6162424)
The problem is the cab was repaired incorrectly as the gap between rocker & floor edge should be 7/16"-1/2"
So your floor is either protruding 3/16'-1/4" or the rocker top edge is pulled in that far. You might try crimping the top edge of the rocker lip slightly to gain any additional clearance needed to install them.
Paul ( owner ) @ GMCPauls

Hey Paul, I wanted to touch base again. We trimmed that lip and put those seals on. They are awesome. I also took a closer look at the rocker and would agree with you that someone did a bad repair. It's like the Mona Lisa..looks ok from a distance but..well you know. I couldn't convince my mule headed 80yr old dad that the rocker at least on that side had been replaced.

solidaxel 05-08-2014 11:33 PM

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What is the part number for my 78 Silverado door glass ( L & R) rubber/felt not including the vent side just the door window pieces.
I have looked at your site and it is a bit busy for a old man!
It would be nice to look at some pictures to make my decisions.
Thanks

Blazerowner 05-29-2014 05:36 PM

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I just installed the push on door seal on my passenger side and Ill have to say while they are nice and go on easy it is substantially harder to close the door. I cut the V shape in it and it didn't make a difference. It seems the door begins to grab the seal up front when closing it. I have to slam it to get it to close all the way. Hopefully they loosen up a little over time.

Blazerowner 05-30-2014 02:37 PM

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Got a response from GMC Paul's with some possible issues. I'll try to fix it as I think it's my door adjustment.

FL71C10 07-20-2014 05:42 PM

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How long do they take to break in if the doors are real hard to close after installing?

GMCGrim 07-25-2014 10:09 PM

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I have the same thing happening to my truck. The drivers door closes fine meanwhile the passenger side I have to slam. The door adjustment is not an option but I read somewhere that letting the truck sit in the hot sun for a period of time seems to relax the rubber. Now after repeated time in our 90+ degree summer heat I don't have to slam it as hard. So I would imagine over time the new rubber will give.

Holliday 01-27-2015 07:08 AM

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I have had these on my truck for over a year and it has set in over 100 degree temperatures on occasion. I still have to slam my doors! I have realigned them 100 times and I just finally took them off. I forgot how nice it is to shut the door and it close without slamming it! I'm currently looking for a new solution.....

Quick update... I took a large hammer and a crescent wrench and moved the door seal lip inwards and got the doors to shut without slamming them. Glad i didn't go back to those stupid glue on ones!

Layne 05-09-2015 12:41 AM

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What do you use to get the old glue off the doors?

GMCPaul 01-06-2016 07:02 AM

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We now have a NEW Push-On door weatherstrip that has been refined to deal with the 10-15% of the trucks that the owners had to slam their doors when using new glue on or push on door seals. These seals are made specifically for all 67-72 Trucks. They use a softer compound to eliminate the hard closure of the door while still retaining the resiliency of the original seals so that they seal correctly. These have had the mitered corners added to them so that the seal itself better resembles the original OEM glue on seal.
We have also added a 60-66 Push-On seal designed specifically for the 60-66 trucks these also use a softer compound and have the OEM style mitered corners. You can find both of these seals available for immediate shipping in our Rubber & Weatherstrip pages under the appropriate year group.
Paul @ GMCPauls

Layne 01-06-2016 10:12 AM

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Do you have a stock # ?
I have the old style, and would love to try the new ones.

GMCPaul 01-06-2016 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Layne (Post 7437091)
Do you have a stock # 17879061
I have the old style, and would love to try the new ones.

I pasted the answer in your question.

DoobieBrother 01-10-2016 07:28 PM

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We had the old version that I bought a month ago and experience the problem. Today I just installed the new version on our `68. It's slightly better, but we still have the same problem. I was looking at it, and it's all about the front leading edge. Most of the door pushes flat up against the seals. All that is fine. The front edge (from bottom of window down), though, catches them from the side and pushed forward rather than smashing against the seal. The problem is all in that area. I'm considering cutting them a bit to allow them to just fold, but it's for sure still not right.

Truck has never been in any wreck or had the doors moved or off. Getting kind of tired of trying to make new seals work on this thing.

GMCPaul 01-11-2016 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by DoobieBrother (Post 7442669)
The front edge (from bottom of window down), though, catches them from the side and pushed forward rather than smashing against the seal. The problem is all in that area.

Try taking seal back off and checking the gap on the inside all the way around the door with the door closed using various sized drill bits to see how wide the gap is at it sounds as though you have that gap to tight in that location. You could also wipe the seal with armor all to allow slip past the seal rather than the door catching on it.
My son has suggested that with the upper door hinges having the door stop check on them only that when ever the door has been allowed to swing forward in the past that every time the door check stops the door at it's maximum allowed travel the doors momentum and weight slowly over type distorts the front door jamb area and flange so that slowly over time the flange it's self begin bending outward as the center section of the pillar slowly tries to twist in this area. So while the seal is off I'd also check the flange you are attaching it to and make sure it's straight and not angled outward if so a small bending of the flange can make a remarkable difference in that area. Finally 8iyou only used your hand to push these on instead use a hammer to knock them into position as if the seal not fully seated on the flange it will cause a problem with the seal protruding to far into the door opening.
Paul @ GMCPauls

DoobieBrother 01-11-2016 11:49 AM

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Thanks Paul. I will go over these things and see what can be found. Hopefully it will improve things.

Cash3481 01-14-2016 11:04 PM

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I ordered and put these on a truck today. It's gonna be on the road Monday so I can give some additional feedback then but first...
1. The newest seal GMC Pauls is selling, I bought.
2. Door closes well. Still takes some effort but they have only been on 1 day. Much easier than the previous set I bought elsewhere.
3. Length was perfect I didn't have to cut anything off it.
4. The GMC Paul's seals (bulbous seal part) actually "feels" different than the soft seal ones you an get at at autozone. (That's because the soft seal ones are too big that autozone sells and so you have to slam your doors)
5. Lastly...I'm already happy with the effort to close the doors, the look, fit and feel of these new seals. I will be ordering another set for another truck!

Great product... Just my 2 cents!

Mike

Layne 01-15-2016 10:12 AM

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Awesome! Mine came in yesterday. Will put on this weekend.

GMCPaul 01-18-2016 11:51 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Cash3481 (Post 7448070)
I ordered and put these on a truck today. It's gonna be on the road Monday so I can give some additional feedback then but first...
1. The newest seal GMC Pauls is selling, I bought.
2. Door closes well. Still takes some effort but they have only been on 1 day. Much easier than the previous set I bought elsewhere.

Wipe this down with Armor All or similar product, this will remove the release compound used in making these which actually causes the seal to catch onto the surrounding metal when not removed resulting in slightly more pressure needed to close.
Paul @ GMCPauls

mark.kelley 02-27-2016 02:01 PM

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do any of you guys have a phone number for GMC Paul's? I have some of the door seals ordered and they are on backorder, I can't get anyone to give me a ship date through email and can't find a working number. Thanks in advance. mark

GMCPaul 03-18-2016 04:39 AM

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All back orders have been shipped and these are in stock again. Thanks! Paul Jr. @ GMCPauls


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