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tommys72 05-15-2015 07:24 PM

Re: 1972 K10 Disabled Veteran First Build
 
It opens the passenger vent. Opens and closes with vacuum

0311Chevy8152 05-15-2015 07:26 PM

Re: 1972 K10 Disabled Veteran First Build
 
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Originally Posted by tommys72 (Post 7173754)
It opens the passenger vent. Opens and closes with vacuum

Thank you I just got it off and noticed it blew air when I moved the lever. What is it supposed to be attached to for the vacuum to open and close?

tommys72 05-15-2015 07:29 PM

Re: 1972 K10 Disabled Veteran First Build
 
I'd have to go out and follow the lines, not sure off the top of my head

0311Chevy8152 05-15-2015 07:33 PM

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[QUOTE=tommys72;7173759]I'd have to go out and follow the lines, not sure off the top of my head[/QUOTE

Ok just curious. Really isn't going to matter until I start putting it back together. There was nothing connected to it when I got the truck. I assume it must be set up so the driver can open and close both vents? Semper Fi.

tommys72 05-15-2015 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by tommys72 (Post 7173759)
I'd have to go out and follow the lines, not sure off the top of my head[/QUOTE

Ok just curious. Really isn't going to matter until I start putting it back together. There was nothing connected to it when I got the truck. I assume it must be set up so the driver can open and close both vents? Semper Fi.

Yea, so you can control both vents from the drivers seat. Had to mess with mine awhile back, vacuum line got a hole in it and the vent didn't do anything. And I had a horrible hissing in the cab.

Semper Fi brother

SS Tim 05-15-2015 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by 0311Chevy8152 (Post 7173750)
What is this, I've never seen it before. Instead of a handle to open and close the vent, this thing is in front of it and attached to it. It is the passenger side floor vent.

http://i1264.photobucket.com/albums/...psma0ums6r.jpg

All trucks have a direct manual operation driver's inet air vent.
On non-A/C trucks there is a matching direct manual operation passenger inlet air vent.
However on A/C trucks like yours, was, this became the air recirculation door. It is vacuum motor operated to allow interior air to be sucked into the A/C inlet plenum when the outside/fresh air door (also vacuum motor operated) is closed.

Might be best to review the factory service manual on the A/C system if the picture does not clear this up for you.


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0311Chevy8152 05-15-2015 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by SS Tim (Post 7173778)
All trucks have a direct manual operation driver's inet air vent.
On non-A/C trucks there is a matching direct manual operation passenger inlet air vent.
However on A/C trucks like yours, was, this became the air recirculation door. It is vacuum motor operated to allow interior air to be sucked into the A/C inlet plenum when the outside/fresh air door (also vacuum motor operated) is closed.

Might be best to review the factory service manual on the A/C system if the picture does not clear this up for you.


* VIN/Model Decoders
* Power Team Charts (engine/transmission/gear ratio)
* Post Your Pickup SPID Blazer SPID Suburban/Panel SPID
* RTFM
... Read The Factory Manuals... download 'em here

Thank you very much. I didn't realize the a/c systems were that advanced back then. Make sense.

0311Chevy8152 05-16-2015 07:09 PM

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Almost done with the interior. I'm going to have a lot of original parts that I am probably not going to use again so let me know if your looking for anything. My plan is to update or make modern with newer technology as much as I can.

http://i1264.photobucket.com/albums/...psugvaqwp7.jpg

Bladeboy1998 05-16-2015 07:37 PM

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You've even got the original gun rack in there, that's awesome!

0311Chevy8152 05-16-2015 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladeboy1998 (Post 7174835)
You've even got the original gun rack in there, that's awesome!

That's cool I would have never known if you hadn't said something.

Bladeboy1998 05-16-2015 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by 0311Chevy8152 (Post 7174840)
That's cool I would have never known if you hadn't said something.

At least I read somewhere that it was original, nowadays you couldn't use that, it would scare too many sheeple! Lol that shows you haw different society is now compared to the 70s.

msgross 05-16-2015 09:09 PM

Re: 1972 K10 Disabled Veteran First Build
 
just found this, nice build...

22 yr army vet here, still in...

0311Chevy8152 05-19-2015 07:24 PM

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Advice please: I removed the lights and tailgate from the bed preparing to start disassembling the bed. I stopped before I even started when I saw welds between the bed and side panels. Originally I thought they just bolted together. The bed definitely needs work, the floor is dented in several areas, the wheel wells have lots of dents, the side panels on one side has a bunch of bondo you can see at the bottom of the panel, both sides have old fuel doors which I do not want anymore, and there is probably more I am not seeing. So, should I grind welds take apart bed (if that is even possible), or buy a bed (how much will that cost)? Thank you in advance for taking the time to reply. I greatly appreciate it.

DWilbur 05-19-2015 07:32 PM

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Their are about 4 to 6 welds that support the bed floor and side you can grind the weld and use a chisel to separate them. you will have to check alignment and weld them back together when you have completed the body work.

0311Chevy8152 05-19-2015 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DWilbur (Post 7178631)
Their are about 4 to 6 welds that support the bed floor and side you can grind the weld and use a chisel to separate them. you will have to check alignment and weld them back together when you have completed the body work.

Is it difficult to realign after taking it apart? I assume it would be more thorough for me to take everything apart. Is that your recommendation?

DWilbur 05-19-2015 10:16 PM

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Sky from Sky's Hot Rods finish up the sheet metal work on my truck. I did grind the weld and take the bed apart as I went from 8' bed to 6' bed and use what I could from the 8' to save money and buying part. the bed side will bolt together and you align the tailgate gaps then weld it back up. its not that much work. knocking out the dents is where all the work is. I did buy a new metal bed bottom salvaged the rest from 2 beds.

swamp rat 05-19-2015 11:28 PM

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My experiance is one approx 1" weld on each side of the rear steak pocket, the rest is all bolts and nuts, there are some almost hidden bolts under the rear corners, ya really got to look for them.. the bedsides are awkward, 2 people or a way to support them like a cherry picker are a good idea

0311Chevy8152 05-25-2015 01:01 AM

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Might not seem like progress to some but it's progress to me. I removed one wheel well and getting ready to start the second. The old bolts are not fun to work with. I wish they would break off like some but most just spin. My new hip is getting a good workout going up and down a ladder to get into the back of the truck. I can't wait to see just a frame.

http://i1264.photobucket.com/albums/...pspuejblsq.jpg

http://i1264.photobucket.com/albums/...ps6bjyserm.jpg

Ozzy2013 05-25-2015 01:05 AM

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Oh man have to love rusty bolts !Have an awesome week end and thank you for your service to our Country.

swamp rat 05-25-2015 01:49 PM

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Actually when your by yourself doing body work can be a pita, especially when the carriage bolts want to turn when your trying to remove them. One trick for rusty bolts i have learned thru the years is to just tighten them until they break off cause you don't want to re use rusty bolts anyway, bolt kits are pretty cheap, the only possible drawback besides a bloody knuckle may be that if the body flanges are really rusted they may give a little, but if they are that bad they need repair anyway.

Xeen 05-25-2015 02:40 PM

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It looks like I'm a little bit late to the party, I just saw this build today for the first time.
Welcome to the board.
There are a LOT of very knowledgeable people here on the board and you can learn tons by just simply reading other peoples builds.
As in all things there is a right way to do things and a wrong way to do things, sometimes unfortunately we don't have the tools to do things the "right way" all the time and a lot of times the right way costs a lot of money because of the tools you have to buy to make it happen, however the good news is Harbor freight is your friend, the idea behind the business model is the tools are designed for "one time use" and are very reasonable in price.
As in most product lines there are different levels of quality and features, they have the El cheapo, the Heavy Duty and the PROfessional series.
For things like drills I buy the PRO series, for things like impact drills and grinders I buy the HD series, you get the idea, I never buy the El cheapo because they may or may not make it through your first project :lol:
Harbor freight is also good for things like car dolly's, BIG 60 gallon air compressors, PRO series tool boxes, things of that nature.
Lowes is an excellent source for common fasteners, nut's bolt's etc, but for hard to find fasteners go to Ace hardware.
I'm going along for the ride, if you find yourself scratching your head and have any questions about anything on the pickup feel free to send me a private message.

0311Chevy8152 05-25-2015 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Xeen (Post 7185166)
It looks like I'm a little bit late to the party, I just saw this build today for the first time.
Welcome to the board.
There are a LOT of very knowledgeable people here on the board and you can learn tons by just simply reading other peoples builds.
As in all things there is a right way to do things and a wrong way to do things, sometimes unfortunately we don't have the tools to do things the "right way" all the time and a lot of times the right way costs a lot of money because of the tools you have to buy to make it happen, however the good news is Harbor freight is your friend, the idea behind the business model is the tools are designed for "one time use" and are very reasonable in price.
As in most product lines there are different levels of quality and features, they have the El cheapo, the Heavy Duty and the PROfessional series.
For things like drills I buy the PRO series, for things like impact drills and grinders I buy the HD series, you get the idea, I never buy the El cheapo because they may or may not make it through your first project :lol:
Harbor freight is also good for things like car dolly's, BIG 60 gallon air compressors, PRO series tool boxes, things of that nature.
Lowes is an excellent source for common fasteners, nut's bolt's etc, but for hard to find fasteners go to Ace hardware.
I'm going along for the ride, if you find yourself scratching your head and have any questions about anything on the pickup feel free to send me a private message.

Thank you for stopping by and for the info you have included. Having yourself and the other experienced members posting info and encouragement is a great asset and motivation. I will definitely keep you all in mind as this continues. At least I know y'all won't call me crazy for trying this build. Everyone I know kinda looks at me out the corner of their eye like I'm nuts.

SS Tim 05-25-2015 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by 0311Chevy8152 (Post 7185351)
... At least I know y'all won't call me crazy for trying this build. Everyone I know kinda looks at me out the corner of their eye like I'm nuts.

Yeah, but they know you and we have to depend on what you tell us! :-)

0311Chevy8152 05-25-2015 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by SS Tim (Post 7185361)
Yeah, but they know you and we have to depend on what you tell us! :-)

I've learned "crazy" all depends on who you hang around with and from looking at this group I'm not crazy at all. :)

Ozzy2013 05-25-2015 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by swamp rat (Post 7185116)
Actually when your by yourself doing body work can be a pita, especially when the carriage bolts want to turn when your trying to remove them. One trick for rusty bolts i have learned thru the years is to just tighten them until they break off cause you don't want to re use rusty bolts anyway, bolt kits are pretty cheap, the only possible drawback besides a bloody knuckle may be that if the body flanges are really rusted they may give a little, but if they are that bad they need repair anyway.

Great way to get them off done it a lot also.

0311Chevy8152 05-26-2015 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Ozzy2013 (Post 7185829)
Great way to get them off done it a lot also.

I have removed both wheel wells and about to start on the bed side panels. Instead of trying to loosen the bolts I should try tightening them first and see if they will break? So far it's been about 50/50 or a little over on bolts that will break.

Xeen 05-27-2015 09:23 AM

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I forgot to mention earlier, one of the greatest things I discovered for cleaning up and resurfacing most metals without removing any good material is a polycarbide abrasive wheel on an angle grinder it's literally a miracle worker, how you use it is you lay it down as flat as you can without touching the arbor to the metal and use light to no pressure on it because usually the weight of the grinder is enough.
You can use the edge of the wheel if you need to get into a recessed area.
It will remove, rust, body filler, paint, etc.
Here is a link to the product so you can check it out.
http://www.harborfreight.com/4-1-2-h...eel-94017.html

DWilbur 05-27-2015 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Xeen (Post 7187376)
I forgot to mention earlier, one of the greatest things I discovered for cleaning up and resurfacing most metals without removing any good material is a polycarbide abrasive wheel on an angle grinder it's literally a miracle worker, how you use it is you lay it down as flat as you can without touching the arbor to the metal and use light to no pressure on it because usually the weight of the grinder is enough.
You can use the edge of the wheel if you need to get into a recessed area.
It will remove, rust, body filler, paint, etc.
Here is a link to the product so you can check it out.
http://www.harborfreight.com/4-1-2-h...eel-94017.html

I saw the wheels at HF I will have to give them a try. Wander how they will do to clean up stainless steel.

Xeen 05-27-2015 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by DWilbur (Post 7187431)
I saw the wheels at HF I will have to give them a try. Wonder how they will do to clean up stainless steel.

It will resurface the stainless steel meaning it will remove oxidation, stains, et cetera and give it a fine tooth, you will need to go one step further afterwords and polish the stainless steel to remove the tooth.

0311Chevy8152 05-27-2015 02:29 PM

Re: 1972 K10 Disabled Veteran First Build
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Xeen (Post 7187376)
I forgot to mention earlier, one of the greatest things I discovered for cleaning up and resurfacing most metals without removing any good material is a polycarbide abrasive wheel on an angle grinder it's literally a miracle worker, how you use it is you lay it down as flat as you can without touching the arbor to the metal and use light to no pressure on it because usually the weight of the grinder is enough.
You can use the edge of the wheel if you need to get into a recessed area.
It will remove, rust, body filler, paint, etc.
Here is a link to the product so you can check it out.
http://www.harborfreight.com/4-1-2-h...eel-94017.html

Once I get down to the bare frame is this what you recommend I use to prep it for whatever I should do next? I found a place in south Sacramento that you can take parts to, frame, panels ect and they do a several step process of stripping down to the bare metal killing rust etc. which is probably going to cost money I do not have or would have to save up for. Would it be wise for me to save up for something like that or can I get er done by hand? Thank you for your advice.

Xeen 05-27-2015 04:31 PM

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I would have everything you intend to reuse media blasted which doesn't really cost that much, where as chem dipping costs too darn much.
Any parts you have media blasted need to be sealed with self etching primer immediately once you get it home to prevent surface rust from reforming, so plan accordingly.

0311Chevy8152 05-27-2015 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Xeen (Post 7187859)
I would have everything you intend to reuse media blasted which doesn't really cost that much, where as chem dipping costs too darn much.
If you have it done you need to seal all parts with self etching primer immediately once you get it home to prevent surface rust from reforming.

Have you seen this new "dustless blasting" that uses water and a glass media? I have watched a couple advertisements on it but I'm not positive on if it removes rust or not. They are trying to get people to buy into their franchise and make money doing it.

Xeen 05-27-2015 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by 0311Chevy8152 (Post 7187866)
Have you seen this new "dustless blasting" that uses water and a glass media? I have watched a couple advertisements on it but I'm not positive on if it removes rust or not. They are trying to get people to buy into their franchise and make money doing it.

Never heard of it but then I don't keep up with that sort of stuff regularly either, I would take it to a traditional media blaster that uses a dry media there is too many cracks and crevices where rust could reform and any time you get metal wet it want's to flash rust so that doesn't sound like a great idea to me.

swamp rat 05-27-2015 04:48 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 0311Chevy8152 (Post 7187866)
Have you seen this new "dustless blasting" that uses water and a glass media? I have watched a couple advertisements on it but I'm not positive on if it removes rust or not. They are trying to get people to buy into their franchise and make money doing it.

Its not for rust i don't think, its for body paint removal last time i checked, donno if it works on bondo ether.

Xeen 05-27-2015 05:19 PM

Re: 1972 K10 Disabled Veteran First Build
 
Someone obviously used this thing for off road, so with that in mind I would take some serious time measuring to make sure the frame is straight.
Who knows if the P.O. had any idea what they were doing when they lifted the pickup.
Sigh... I hate to say it but they probably didn't which means the shock mounting points weren't reinforced/relocated the frame wasn't boxed for strength, no skid plates added et cetera.
Lets hope they didn't beat on it regularly, you need to carefully check every ball joint, tie rod end, et cetera for wear.
Also you need to carefully check for damaged/bent suspension parts.

0311Chevy8152 05-27-2015 05:28 PM

Re: 1972 K10 Disabled Veteran First Build
 
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Originally Posted by Xeen (Post 7187916)
Someone obviously used this thing for off road, so with that in mind I would take some serious time measuring to make sure the frame is straight.
Who knows if the P.O. had any idea what they were doing when they lifted the pickup.
Sigh... I hate to say it but they probably didn't which means the shock mounting points weren't reinforced the frame wasn't boxed for strength, no skid plates added et cetera.
Lets hope they didn't beat on it regularly, you need to carefully check every ball joint, tie rod end, et cetera for wear.

I'm nervous as to what I am going to find as well. When I took out the electrical under the dash it amazed me nothing had caught fire. My plan is to take everything apart, inspect everything, and make sure it's done right. I will be looking for guidance and direction to make sure I do it right. I'm thankful I found this forum and able to ask questions. This forum is my only resource. I do not have friends or family familiar with building a truck. I want to make the truck solid and to last. Hopefully one step at a time that will happen.

Xeen 05-27-2015 05:35 PM

Re: 1972 K10 Disabled Veteran First Build
 
Well you have come to the right place, we can certainly make sure you are doing it right. :lol:
I would really like to have a conversation with you concerning your plans for the pickup so I can help you formulate a long term plan for the build, if you would like to send me a private message with your number and a range of time that it is ok to call on most days and I will give you a call, just click on my name on the left to send me a private message.
BTW you will notice that I edit my posts a lot because I have a bad habit of rereading my post after to make sure it says exactly what I want it to say.

0311Chevy8152 05-27-2015 05:40 PM

Re: 1972 K10 Disabled Veteran First Build
 
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Originally Posted by Xeen (Post 7187944)
Well you have come to the right place, we can certainly make sure you are doing it right. :lol:
I would really like to have a conversation with you concerning your plans for the pickup so I can help you formulate a long term plan for the build, if you would like to send me a private message with your number and a range of time that it is ok to call on most days and I will give you a call, just click on my name on the left to send me a private message.
BTW you will notice that I edit my posts a lot because I have a bad habit of rereading my post after to make sure it says exactly what I want it to say.

Awesome thanks. I'll send you a pm.

Ozzy2013 05-27-2015 08:58 PM

Re: 1972 K10 Disabled Veteran First Build
 
I usually try PB blaster and try to loosen them first and if the wont then tighten them until they break

Ozzy2013 05-27-2015 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by 0311Chevy8152 (Post 7170429)
Hi Ozzy thank you for offering your assistance. I am sure I am going to need it. Anything I should think of or watch out for as I continue to disassemble the truck?

Just bag all the small bolts nuts and parts and if you clean as you go its easier to evaluate condition and if you need replacement parts .And dont stress have fun with it i loved and still love just seeing how things come apart and why.Taking pictures with a old phone or camera is invaluable for re assembly and these guys love pictures too!Ha ha


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