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pitterpat 06-27-2019 02:15 PM

Re: "Sweet Pea" 1975 Cheyenne 20
 
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Originally Posted by ShortHaul (Post 8547526)
About an hour. Some of the ancient bolts were on there pretty good.



No I didn't. Same deal, can't stand ripping holes in the cab if I can help it. Its pretty secure under the seat, doesn't really move around much. the 4 gauge wire holds it in place pretty well...

How about if you use velcro too to hold the amp to the floor too.

farmall 06-30-2019 09:31 PM

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I like the Suburban plaid.

LT7A 07-02-2019 08:48 AM

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I think it is a really cool idea. Hard to picture it in a pickup cab for some reason. If you're determined to go plaid, I recommend the one with white and black, middle right side. I'd purchase a square foot or two though and really make sure that's what you want. I like the highlanders too, but it's a bit of a gamble that you will want all of that visual activity.

TKCR 07-02-2019 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by LT7A (Post 8551782)
I think it is a really cool idea. Hard to picture it in a pickup cab for some reason. If you're determined to go plaid, I recommend the one with white and black, middle right side. I'd purchase a square foot or two though and really make sure that's what you want. I like the highlanders too, but it's a bit of a gamble that you will want all of that visual activity.

At a $130 a sq.ft. That might not be easy on the wallet, just to “make sure”. That’s why they only give you tiny little samples, and it is had to see what it would look like. The samples are more for color matching.

LT7A 07-02-2019 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by TKCR (Post 8551788)
At a $130 a sq.ft. That might not be easy on the wallet, just to “make sure”. That’s why they only give you tiny little samples, and it is had to see what it would look like. The samples are more for color matching.

I see your point, however I would be inclined to spend the 15 bucks to get a foot of it to make sure. I don't know if they would send you any cuttings in lieu of charging you for cutting a chunk off of the roll. The highlander photo helps to at least see what the pattern is like in the environment of the cab. Good advice from Getter-Done to reference the seatbelts in addition to the rest of the cab. The greens need to play nice together and if one is tending toward blue and the other is tending toward yellow then they won't be in harmony.

Just so you know, the truck overall has kinda captured my imagination and I'm enjoying following along. Those shocks look like they are the originals. I am a big fan of the Bilsteins so I think changing them out was a good idea. But I would wash up and keep those old shocks and hang em on the shop wall. I have a bit of a collection of old parts, oil cans (cardboard type) etc. And I'll live long enough to see these trucks being restored to "factory condition" which means somebody will need those original shocks.

ShortHaul 07-04-2019 12:11 PM

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Thanks for all the responses, and a HUGE thank you to TKCR for working with me on spec'ing out a seat. However, I've realized that I'm not quite sure exactly what it is i want in a seat yet. Also a more pressing issue came up with Sweet Pea... fuel problems.. I need to focus my attention on redoing the fuel lines, senders and possibly tank switch. I'll knock around the seat idea for a while... and see what sticks.

However I did come across this on the Squarebody Syndicate FB parts group. Looks original, and re-inspired me to do the plaid...

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...dd370df5_c.jpgUntitled by awesome_adawson, on Flickr

ShortHaul 07-04-2019 12:21 PM

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Anyway... On to less fun but more important tasks... Fuel issues.

I have always had trouble filling up my tanks. Here in CA the fuel nozzles have these very annoying "Vapor collar" thingys that completely block off the filler neck to prevent fuel vapor from escaping. In doing so, they prohibit the tank vent from operating properly, which leads to fuel puking out of the filler neck and onto the ground. That's a pain in the ass all in itself, but recently I noticed the filler tube hose on my aux tank was leaking profusely as well. That led me to crawl under there and inspect the system. Turns out all the rubber fuel lines are in pretty shoddy shape.

I dropped the aux side tank yesterday and am in the process of cleaning it up, replacing the lines, and deciding whether or not i need to replace the sender.

If anyone can help chime in on this question, please do.

After pulling the tank, I found this setup at the top:

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...eebaf19c_c.jpgUntitled by awesome_adawson, on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...dd494914_c.jpgUntitled by awesome_adawson, on Flickr

What exactly am I looking at here? And is it safe/legit/factory? I'm assuming that one is a fuel output line, and the other a breather, but what sort of breather contraption is that? and is it safe? Also, if i plan on swapping the sender, is it wise to recreate this exact setup? Please let me know if you have any experience in the fuel systems in these trucks... Thanks!

TKCR 07-04-2019 12:21 PM

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That does look nice! Flip it over, so I can see the tracks, and I can narrow down the exact year. The only drawback I see with the seat it’s a non-tilting, but that’s really not a big deal.
Been through those fuel issues myself, just last spring. Have a buddy that has a shop. He came to get the truck with a Flat Bed. I felt so much better knowing he had my Big Red. All the rubber hoses got replaced. We grew up together, next door neighbors. Now he lives locally with his shop. He also has quite a collection of Classic Cars.

ShortHaul 07-04-2019 12:38 PM

Re: "Sweet Pea" 1975 Cheyenne 20
 
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Originally Posted by TKCR (Post 8552959)
That does look nice! Flip it over, so I can see the tracks, and I can narrow down the exact year. The only drawback I see with the seat it’s a non-tilting, but that’s really not a big deal.
Been through those fuel issues myself, just last spring. Have a buddy that has a shop. He came to get the truck with a Flat Bed. I felt so much better knowing he had my Big Red. All the rubber hoses got replaced. We grew up together, next door neighbors. Now he lives locally with his shop. He also has quite a collection of Classic Cars.

Unfortunately thats the only pic the seller posted, and he's way out on the east coast and not interested in shipping. I was merely re-inspired on the plaid pattern... Just imagining that same seat but with the 75 green vinyl instead of brown, and a similar plaid, but in green, that features a bit of yellow as a complementary color...

Anyways... yeah I am overdue for fuel system refresh. The crossover line from the main tank to the switching unit was literally ready to turn to dust... I bought a 25ft roll of 3/8" line and im going to go swap out every piece under there!

Getter-Done 07-04-2019 12:58 PM

Re: "Sweet Pea" 1975 Cheyenne 20
 
If the gages were working I probably
wouldn't replace the senders.
First thing I would do is,
Pull that plastic guard off the front of the tank.
I have seen tanks that had so much crude
built up in behind that guard.
When I removed the crude the tank had a hole
rusted in it.
So I would suggest cleaning under that guard
to see if you will need a new tank.
It's probably ok (But) it just takes a minute to check.

ShortHaul 07-04-2019 01:23 PM

Re: "Sweet Pea" 1975 Cheyenne 20
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Getter-Done (Post 8552975)
If the gages were working I probably
wouldn't replace the senders.
First thing I would do is,
Pull that plastic guard off the front of the tank.
I have seen tanks that had so much crude
built up in behind that guard.
When I removed the crude the tank had a hole
rusted in it.
So I would suggest cleaning under that guard
to see if you will need a new tank.
It's probably ok (But) it just takes a minute to check.

So the main tank gauge works fine, but the aux did not. It would just peg straight to the 3 o clock position as soon as you flipped the switch. The ground strap looked intact when I pulled it. Uncertain about the wiring up to the gauge though, I haven’t really chased that wire out yet. I pulled the plastic guard and thoroughly scrubbed the tank, it’s in good shape, inside and out, but yeah there was a ton of crud resting under that guard.

But as far as that breather on the second port, does that look kosher?

Getter-Done 07-04-2019 02:28 PM

Re: "Sweet Pea" 1975 Cheyenne 20
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ShortHaul (Post 8552986)
So the main tank gauge works fine, but the aux did not. It would just peg straight to the 3 o clock position as soon as you flipped the switch. The ground strap looked intact when I pulled it. Uncertain about the wiring up to the gauge though, I haven’t really chased that wire out yet. I pulled the plastic guard and thoroughly scrubbed the tank, it’s in good shape, inside and out, but yeah there was a ton of crud resting under that guard.

But as far as that breather on the second port, does that look kosher?

It may have lost it ground thru the sending unit
locking ring?
You could remove that ring a clean everything up
Then put it back and see if it works.
That's the vent they used back then.
I had the same type on some of my trucks.
Make sure it is clear (so it can vent).




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ShortHaul 07-04-2019 02:45 PM

Re: "Sweet Pea" 1975 Cheyenne 20
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Getter-Done (Post 8553029)
It may have lost it ground thru the sending unit
locking ring?
You could remove that ring a clean everything up
Then put it back and see if it works.
That's the vent they used back then.
I had the same type on some of my trucks.
Make sure it is clear (so it can vent).




.

Awesome thank you. Yeah I had never seen one like I before so I wasn’t sure if it was stock or not. I’ll give it a good once over and throw it back together. The sender itself looks to be in pretty good shape, so hopefully once everything’s cleaned up it’ll work!!

ShortHaul 07-06-2019 09:58 PM

Re: "Sweet Pea" 1975 Cheyenne 20
 
Shined 'er up and took a few pics today...

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...742c1ce8_c.jpgUntitled by awesome_adawson, on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...2c181e19_c.jpgUntitled by awesome_adawson, on Flickr
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Getter-Done 07-06-2019 10:18 PM

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A+






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MTCK 07-07-2019 01:58 AM

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Heck yeah looks great.

dmack91 07-07-2019 12:12 PM

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There are many posts on sending uniuts. If memory serves, I believe 3 o'clock indicates an open circuit, meaning broken wire or junk sender.

layinrocker65 07-07-2019 08:44 PM

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Truck looked good driving through Cars and Coffee

ShortHaul 07-08-2019 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Getter-Done (Post 8554288)
A+
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Quote:

Originally Posted by MTCK (Post 8554381)
Heck yeah looks great.

Quote:

Originally Posted by layinrocker65 (Post 8554723)
Truck looked good driving through Cars and Coffee

Thanks guys! Layinrocker, nice!! Cool to get spotted by a local. Another great turnout at that show! What were you driving?

ShortHaul 07-08-2019 11:24 AM

Re: "Sweet Pea" 1975 Cheyenne 20
 
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Originally Posted by dmack91 (Post 8554479)
There are many posts on sending uniuts. If memory serves, I believe 3 o'clock indicates an open circuit, meaning broken wire or junk sender.

Thanks for the tip. Yeah I’m suspect of the wiring, it looks pretty crusty, so I’m planning on chasing the wires out and looking for a break. The sender itself doesn’t look bad, I assume it was replaced at some point. The nylon sock was still very intact.

layinrocker65 07-11-2019 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by ShortHaul (Post 8554989)
Thanks guys! Layinrocker, nice!! Cool to get spotted by a local. Another great turnout at that show! What were you driving?

I showed up late so I rode my motorcycle for easy parking. I usually only go there 3-4 times a year unfortunately.

bhc41051 07-11-2019 10:09 PM

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SMS supplied the material for my 75 Scottsdale. My upholstery guy said the OEM stuff was very high quality but it had some creases that were hard to work out. GM called it Knit Vinyl avocado, gold and pearl white. I get lots of compliments on it.

TKCR 07-11-2019 10:22 PM

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Wow, that’s very nice! And it’s a GMC seat, I like those seats. They are pretty rare. GMC added a little bling to their seats, the little chrome hinge parts.

ShortHaul 07-12-2019 02:15 AM

Re: "Sweet Pea" 1975 Cheyenne 20
 
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Originally Posted by layinrocker65 (Post 8556569)
I showed up late so I rode my motorcycle for easy parking. I usually only go there 3-4 times a year unfortunately.

Copy, yeah same here... If you get the chance, come up to Penngrove on the 4th sunday of the month, we do our cars and coffee up there at the market. Not nearly as big as the Marin one, but still fun! And give a shout next time you see me cruising by!

ShortHaul 07-12-2019 02:16 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bhc41051 (Post 8557063)
SMS supplied the material for my 75 Scottsdale. My upholstery guy said the OEM stuff was very high quality but it had some creases that were hard to work out. GM called it Knit Vinyl avocado, gold and pearl white. I get lots of compliments on it.

Wow that looks awesome. SMS has some amazing stuff. Do you recall how much material you purchased to make the inserts?

TKCR 07-25-2019 02:32 PM

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I saw where you had posted on someone else’s build, about a green steering wheel. They do have green ones from Forever Sharp steering wheels. I don’t believe these shades of green, would be a good match for your interior, but this is what I’m thinking. Maybe call them and see if they can make one. I did that with one of the seat console places. I sent them some of my left over vinyl, from my seat. And they made a console, that way it was a perfect match.

RyanAK 08-05-2019 06:20 PM

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Great stuff, man. I’m taking a lot of inspiration from Sweet Pea as I plan out my own stock-plus build for the ‘78 Suburban. Really. Well done!

ShortHaul 08-05-2019 10:47 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RyanAK (Post 8571192)
Great stuff, man. I’m taking a lot of inspiration from Sweet Pea as I plan out my own stock-plus build for the ‘78 Suburban. Really. Well done!

Thanks!! I appreciate that! I have been following your new 'Burb as well, I thought I had a solution to your wheel conundrum, but unfortunately Wheel Vintiques only makes the 16's in 8 lug...

ShortHaul 08-08-2019 05:33 PM

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Added an "item of flair" to the interior :)

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...e5447277_c.jpgUntitled by awesome_adawson, on Flickr

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1976gmc20 08-08-2019 08:33 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ShortHaul (Post 8571354)
Thanks!! I appreciate that! I have been following your new 'Burb as well, I thought I had a solution to your wheel conundrum, but unfortunately Wheel Vintiques only makes the 16's in 8 lug...


https://www.wheelvintiques.com/wheel...=50&finish=254

????

ShortHaul 08-08-2019 09:48 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1976gmc20 (Post 8573063)

Sorry, should have been more specific, the Series 12 steelies you linked won't accept the correct hub caps. WV makes 8 lug 16's that accept OEM caps, and then 5 and 6 lug 15's, but no 6 lug 16's...

All the later C10 caps attach to outside "nubs" on the wheel surface. Those 12 series have the inside "nubs" that take aftermarket style smoothie caps and other styles, but not the OEM stuff...

1976gmc20 08-09-2019 11:12 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ShortHaul (Post 8573107)
Sorry, should have been more specific, the Series 12 steelies you linked won't accept the correct hub caps. WV makes 8 lug 16's that accept OEM caps, and then 5 and 6 lug 15's, but no 6 lug 16's...

All the later C10 caps attach to outside "nubs" on the wheel surface. Those 12 series have the inside "nubs" that take aftermarket style smoothie caps and other styles, but not the OEM stuff...

Okay, well I guess it's all dependent on what's more important: hub caps or tires that don't go flat all the time ;)

I should have gone that route. I tried and failed to make GMT 16" 6 hole wheels fit by cutting out the center hole bigger. My neighbor did such a nice job with his plasma torch. Too bad I didn't have him do just one and check it before doing all five :( I ended up getting disgusted and buying 4 used 15x8 steel rallies just to get going again since one of the factory alloy wheels had busted and I didn't trust the other three.

The price of the new WV 6 hole 16's per wheel isn't too much more than I spent on two sets of used wheels, but it would have been about $575 for five wheels plus shipping - what $200 or $300 to Montana ??? Maybe someday I will even do that if I decide to keep and fix up the old Suburban.

ShortHaul 08-16-2019 08:48 PM

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Sadie Sue happy to go for a ride :)

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Happy Hound

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Crcrft78 08-16-2019 10:07 PM

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That's a good looking truck.

Getter-Done 08-16-2019 10:38 PM

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.ShortHaul.
Your puppy is as (photogenic) as mine.:lol:

I Can tell _You have good training skills with (puppy's).
They grow up so fast.













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ShortHaul 08-17-2019 01:29 PM

Re: "Sweet Pea" 1975 Cheyenne 20
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Crcrft78 (Post 8577374)
That's a good looking truck.

Thanks!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Getter-Done (Post 8577385)
.ShortHaul.
Your puppy is as (photogenic) as mine.:lol:

I Can tell _You have good training skills with (puppy's).
They grow up so fast.
.

Yeah she's a sweetheart! No pup anymore, she's 11 yrs old now!

pitterpat 08-19-2019 12:38 PM

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Which Kicker 6 x9's and the 3 x 5's? I just got a surprise refund from mortgage co. so I'm buying new speakers. Already have the mounts from Big Block, painted them yesterday.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShortHaul (Post 8486910)

Got to work replacing the state of the art sound system that was installed in my truck...

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7805/...6c4f99af_c.jpgUntitled by awesome_adawson, on Flickr

Bought a set of the cab corner speaker enclosures from BigBlock. Shot them in spring green and backed them with sound deadener. Kicker 6x9's.

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7844/...2d04d4de_c.jpg by awesome_adawson, on Flickr

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Mounted

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BrowningGuy88 08-20-2019 09:38 AM

This build is so awesome.

I have started again looking for a fairly unmolested square 3/4 or 1 ton just because of builds like this!
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ShortHaul 08-20-2019 04:40 PM

Re: "Sweet Pea" 1975 Cheyenne 20
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pitterpat (Post 8578611)
Which Kicker 6 x9's and the 3 x 5's? I just got a surprise refund from mortgage co. so I'm buying new speakers. Already have the mounts from Big Block, painted them yesterday.

6x9's
Kicker 43CSC6934

3.5's
Kicker 44KSC3504

Kicker offers 4 different levels

QS, KS, CS, and DS which range from high to low in quality and price. I went with the CS for the 6x9s and a little higher quality KS for the 3.5's. They are little speakers and I didn't want to risk blowing them with amp.

Overall I'm happy with the sound. I think a sub would really complete the system, as it lacks much low end bass at all. But its crisp, clean and LOUD!

Those corner speaker brackets are cool! easy to mount too, just mark your holes and drill pilot holes first...
:metal:

ShortHaul 08-20-2019 04:41 PM

Re: "Sweet Pea" 1975 Cheyenne 20
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BrowningGuy88 (Post 8579094)
This build is so awesome.

I have started again looking for a fairly unmolested square 3/4 or 1 ton just because of builds like this!
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Thank you! Good luck, plenty of them out there...


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