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Got its shoes on!
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Lookin good!
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aurite, great look, what did you decide on for the tire size? exciting!
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I think I’m going to add one of these, 60” long, to stop and rear axle wrap without disturbing articulation much at all:
https://www.wfoconcepts.com/pr/WFO-T...Arm-Kits/16947 |
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you have a lot of fab skilz, why buy when you can make for a lot less $$$?
no need for any heim joint unless you want an adjustable pinion angle no need for any type of rubber mount on the axle either solid welded/bolted to the axle with the front shackle is all you need ideal length for the torque arm is as long as the drive shaft to have the same pivot point truk is on stock springs still, axle wrap would run the driveshaft into a frame x-member my trans am rearend housing had a boss for the factory torque arm to bolt to i used a trailer shackle up front for the front mount if you google 'torque arm design' most attach rigidly to the rear end https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pr...LfMHEECAjBTH4Q |
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but you are right, i could probably just buy the DOM, and some axle brackets, and fab it up for less than the kit. the 1 stop shopping is the temptation with that kit... |
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try welders series for diy parts. everything you may need. also, CAD so USD buys more for less. brackets, tubing, threaded tubing cut to lengths, joints, bushings, all kinds of fab stuff.
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any torque arm needs articulation. your 14 inch travel is still limited by the length of driveshaft slip into the trans. most movement is in the rear spring shackle or 3 link if you go that way. the spring shackle at the front of the torque bar takes up any movement that is also limited by driveshaft travel. i used a trailer spring shackle for spring movement. no need for any heim joints
you could make your own shackle with a little flat bar and tubing with these https://static.summitracing.com/glob...9-9483g_ml.jpg |
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this is a pic of what you want to buy. if you make your own, no need for universal fit as the kits do.
the points in red should be welded solid. the blue is where i have a trailer spring shackle, using the rubber in the pic above and make your own shackle |
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i did already spent $77 on the axle brackets and 4 bushings with sleeves, so getting a tubing notcher may be the direction, plus i get a new tool then! |
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are you going for more articulation on the rear suspension or just concerned about axle wrap? here is a forum with a pic showing a kit like mentioned mounted up. there needs to be that shackle at the front to allow for some fore to aft movement as the springs compress, extend or wrap. otherwise the pivot point for the torque arm needs to be inline with the spring mount centerline. ensure the shackle has clearance for a full suspension travel both ways plus some room for safety.
remember, if welding on the axle tubes don't do all the welding at once because the axle tubes can warp from heat/shrinkage when cooling. https://forum.ih8mud.com/threads/fin...on-bar.278005/ https://www.pinterest.ca/pin/116460340345527180/ https://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f12/...ap-bar-517106/ http://www.how-to-build-hotrods.com/traction-bars.html and a little thread from pirate 4x4 speaking of axle wrap and one guys fix. has pics. some guys will run the center arm close to the driveshaft for shaft protection from high centering, just a thought. https://www.pirate4x4.com/threads/jb...ersion.837962/ |
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Ideally the front pivot point on that type of setup is at the same spot the front U joint on the driveshaft on a one piece drive shaft is or the center U joint if you have a two piece drive shaft.
Functioning the same way the torque arms on 67/72 Chevy trucks or the torque arm on at least one generation of Camaros do. |
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I decided to plate the frame where the steering box mounts and also the two forward bolts have a small plate that they go through on the inside that’s not welded in but helps the spread the load. Shouldn’t have any issues with frame cracks here now!
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Also I primed the motors oiling system and installed the distributor at the proper timing.
Going to build the exhaust system soon, once the collector reducers get here, and test fire the motor. I just have a couple spots of body work left then I can get to work painting panels and start final assembly. I did paint one of the inner fenders over the weekend, really liking the royal blue! Going to switch to a chrome brake mc/booster setup then start running brake lines. Starting to see the light at the end of the tunnel here! |
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i just found these torque arm pics in a different folder, just for ideas
1st pic is the trailer shackle i was referring to this one has no rubber, it clanks when shifting from reverse to forward i bolted it to the x-member behind the trans the idea is simple. you could weld a spring pad on the axle and use U-bolts to attach a 2x2 square tube and a similar shackle on front and call it a torque arm |
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thanks...looking at simplifying my design. 2x2x.25" square tube, welded to a spring perch and clamped to the axle with a bushing and shackle at the frame end. shouldn't be too expensive or complicated to build and stop any wheel hop.
i do want to be able to swap out axle housings to 1-tons later without too much work, and/or adjust the angle of the TA if needed, otherwise i know i could weld the axle end all together. |
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Update on the torque arm. Just about complete with building the frame end of it, just need to clean it up a little bit more and then mount it on the frame and then test fit for length and then cut and weld it to the axle bracket.
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Hey checking on how your build is going. Any more picks of the front end steering set up. thanks hope all is well
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