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Wildstreak 03-23-2010 12:59 PM

Re: Boss 338 Wheels **GROUP BUY**
 
what tire size is everyone goin to run on their rear rims?

Security guy 03-23-2010 01:13 PM

Re: Boss 338 Wheels **GROUP BUY**
 
I just had to get in on this thread. I can tell its going to be another 20 page thread. I'm going to try and order a set on thursday. I was trying to hold out until we could see a truck with the new wheels on. Does any one know for sure if there will be another order placed next week?

TyKby2 03-23-2010 01:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Wildstreak (Post 3877321)
what tire size is everyone goin to run on their rear rims?

When I get my set I plan on running 245/40/18's on front and 295/35/18's on the rear. I would probly run about the same with the 20's aswell.

SCOTI 03-23-2010 02:03 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TyKby2 (Post 3877375)
When I get my set I plan on running 245/40/18's on front and 295/35/18's on the rear. I would probly run about the same with the 20's aswell.

Those will be short. I would recommend a 245-45-18 (26" tall) & 295-40-20 (29" tall).

AusTx68 03-23-2010 02:29 PM

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I sure hope someone posts some pics once they get their wheels. I'm curious how the 20x10s look with an adapter in place.

70k52wd 03-23-2010 02:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by brossow (Post 3877308)
This is pretty much off-topic, but is there a thread anywhere that lists the different rear-end widths for the different years? I've searched the forums and Google with no success. Sure would be nice to have readily available.

Going off the top of my head. I'm running a 71-72 rear. Back plate to plate is 57in if my poor memory serves correct.

Yea 6 lug. I can't win...

Leviticus 03-23-2010 03:04 PM

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Well...got some bad news boys. The new revised fronts don't fit. Looks like it is the same issue as before, it won't seat all the way down onto the rotor, looks like it is tight at the front of the hub bore like before.

And just to sweeten the deal :lol: the rear 20x10 will require a spacer to fit. I didn't have the tires on but it looks like (judging by sight) about a 1/4 to 1/2" spacer to not rub on the inside of the fender well.

Well, we are dealing with Boss here, what did we expect :lol:

brossow 03-23-2010 03:06 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SCOTI (Post 3877428)
Those will be short. I would recommend a 245-45-18 (26" tall) & 295-40-20 (29" tall).

What do you suggest on a 20x8.5 up front?

brossow 03-23-2010 03:10 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Leviticus (Post 3877525)
Well...got some bad news boys. The new revised fronts don't fit. Looks like it is the same issue as before, it won't seat all the way down onto the rotor, looks like it is tight at the front of the hub bore like before.

You sure you got the -3 revision? Doesn't sound like it. Do you have a caliper (measuring device, not the brake component) to measure the bore? Please post some pics, including one of the label on the box.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Leviticus (Post 3877525)
And just to sweeten the deal :lol: the rear 20x10 will require a spacer to fit. I didn't have the tires on but it looks like (judging by sight) about a 1/4 to 1/2" spacer to not rub on the inside of the fender well.

Well, we are dealing with Boss here, what did we expect :lol:

Hey, now. You can't blame them for your failure to consider backspacing before ordering. As I've said before, the purpose of the revision was to correct the front hub fitment issue, not to change the backspacing (which is unchanged and which you should have recognized as an issue before making your purchase). :banghead:

Tow Me 03-23-2010 03:25 PM

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I might be jumping in on this... I will talk to my dad too since he wants a set. I'll get back before the deadline!

Leviticus 03-23-2010 03:27 PM

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Hey brossow,

don't get all pissy on me, I'm not blaming them for the BS, I had expected I might need a spacer on the rear, no biggie.

But I am blaming them for a revised wheel that does not fit. Box said right on it 3AA. There is a picture of the label in a thread I posted this morning. I'll take some pics of the figment issue when I get home, at the tire store right now.

I might get away with a little grinding on the tip of the hub.

brossow 03-23-2010 03:35 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Leviticus (Post 3877555)
Hey brossow,

don't get all pissy on me, I'm not blaming them for the BS, I had expected I might need a spacer on the rear, no biggie.

Sure looked like you were blaming them. You said, "And just to sweeten the deal the rear 20x10 will require a spacer to fit. [...] Well, we are dealing with Boss here, what did we expect." I don't know how else to interpret that statement other than you blaming Boss. But I've been wrong before. *shrug*

Don't want to argue; just surprised by all the people willing to lay out a LOT of money without even knowing what it is they actually need vs. what they'd be getting. Not specifically including you among them -- just making a general observation.

Brent

Wildstreak 03-23-2010 03:37 PM

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so does this mean the re-tooled rims dont fit either?

72mistressc10 03-23-2010 03:38 PM

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x2 ????

brossow 03-23-2010 03:44 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Leviticus (Post 3877555)
But I am blaming them for a revised wheel that does not fit. Box said right on it 3AA. There is a picture of the label in a thread I posted this morning. I'll take some pics of the figment issue when I get home, at the tire store right now.

I might get away with a little grinding on the tip of the hub.

Here's a direct link to the thread mentioned above if anyone wants to follow along over there. Not a good sign....

Wildstreak 03-23-2010 03:45 PM

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@Leviticus
I looked at your thread and the part number on your box is for 20x10 even tho it says its for 20x8.5 on your box. I kinda find that odd....

Wildstreak 03-23-2010 03:48 PM

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on the boss website I can even see A 20x8.5 with 5 on 5. what is the correct bolt pattern for a 72?

brossow 03-23-2010 03:51 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Wildstreak (Post 3877584)
@Leviticus
I looked at your thread and the part number on your box is for 20x10 even tho it says its for 20x8.5 on your box. I kinda find that odd....

No, that's correct. The part number for a 20x10 in grey is 3387-2050. His box clearly says 3387-2850.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Wildstreak (Post 3877588)
on the boss website I can even see A 20x8.5 with 5 on 5. what is the correct bolt pattern for a 72?

They don't list it there for some reason. The regional manager I've spoken to about these wheels doesn't know why they're not listed in the spec sheet, because they're definitely available and in their system.

Brent

72mistressc10 03-23-2010 03:52 PM

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I believe the new hub bore was suppose to be 94.62mm=3.725, right?

Wildstreak 03-23-2010 03:53 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by brossow (Post 3877592)
No, that's correct. The part number for a 20x10 in grey is 3387-2050. His box clearly says 3387-2850.

Brent

I know that, but look at the rim size on his box it says 20x8.5.......

72mistressc10 03-23-2010 03:54 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Wildstreak (Post 3877596)
I know that, but look at the rim size on his box it says 20x8.5.......

part number 3387-2850 is for the 20x8.5
part number 3387-2050 is for the 20x10

Original post shows this also.

Wildstreak 03-23-2010 03:56 PM

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Ah I see now dam 0 and 8 look very similar in small text lol

TyKby2 03-23-2010 03:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SCOTI (Post 3877428)
Those will be short. I would recommend a 245-45-18 (26" tall) & 295-40-20 (29" tall).

Both are about the same height and 295/35/18 is 26 iches tall and 245/40/18 is about 25.75 inches tall. I'm going to run 18's all the way around.

TyKby2 03-23-2010 04:08 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 72mistressc10 (Post 3877595)
I believe the new hub bore was suppose to be 94.62mm=3.725, right?

that is what I thought aswell.

brossow 03-23-2010 04:14 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 72mistressc10 (Post 3877595)
I believe the new hub bore was suppose to be 94.62mm=3.725, right?

Did you see that somewhere official? That's 1/2" larger than what appears to have been delivered. WTF?

I've posted this info multiple times, but once more won't hurt. The national number for American Eagle Wheels (the company behind Boss and several other brands) is 909-590-8828. To find a local distributor, go here: http://americaneaglewheel.com/distributor.cfm. I encourage people to call, ask questions, demand answers, and report back with your findings. Might help to play dumb and just see what they tell you. Some items of interest include:
  1. What is the hub bore on the revised wheels?
  2. What is the ETA on the 20" chrome wheels?
  3. What specifically was changed with the -3 revision?
  4. Are there any plans for other backspacing options on the 20x10 wheel in order to better fit earlier trucks?

I'm sure there are many other questions as well, but those come immediately to mind.

EDIT: You might also consider asking questions in response to their blog post about the revised wheels. The blog is their PR piece, so if they start seeing a lot of public questions they might be more responsive. Please be courteous if you go this route.

Brent

Leviticus 03-23-2010 04:41 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by brossow (Post 3877568)
Sure looked like you were blaming them. You said, "And just to sweeten the deal the rear 20x10 will require a spacer to fit. [...] Well, we are dealing with Boss here, what did we expect." I don't know how else to interpret that statement other than you blaming Boss. But I've been wrong before. *shrug*

Don't want to argue; just surprised by all the people willing to lay out a LOT of money without even knowing what it is they actually need vs. what they'd be getting. Not specifically including you among them -- just making a general observation.

Brent

Brent,

Not trying to fight with ya:m3:, I knew the 20x10 was a toss up on fitment, I was the one over in the other Boss thread saying I will see if it fits or not. I'm not just some idiot shelling out cash thinking they will fit, I was willing to take the risk to run the 10"s in the back.

The fronts on the other hand are somewhat frustrating, but I was expecting the old version when I ordered them so I am just truckin on:smoke:

Anyways, I'll let you guys know what I can work out on them, I have some 1/4" spacers for the rear I am going to try to see if they get me clear.

And we will see how much material I am going to have to take off the front hub.

I'll keep you all posted, on a good note,the tires look sweeet on the wheels!

72swb_327stroker_? 03-23-2010 04:52 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Leviticus (Post 3877664)
The fronts on the other hand are somewhat frustrating, but I was expecting the old version when I ordered them so I am just truckin on:smoke:

Anyways, I'll let you guys know what I can work out on them, I have some 1/4" spacers for the rear I am going to try to see if they get me clear.

And we will see how much material I am going to have to take off the front hub.

I'll keep you all posted, on a good note,the tires look sweeet on the wheels!

*EHEM***
:wop:

brossow 03-23-2010 04:56 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 72swb_327stroker_? (Post 3877684)
*EHEM***
:wop:

*EHEM*** See posts 131 and 135 in this thread for info and a link with pics.

Sublvr72 03-23-2010 05:10 PM

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looks like they fit fine 20x8.5 and 20x10

http://www.kgisolutions.com/dealerpi...1222155954.jpg

http://www.kgisolutions.com/dealerpi...2221559542.jpg

http://www.kgisolutions.com/dealerpi...2221559546.jpg

http://www.kgisolutions.com/dealerpi...2221559549.jpg

http://www.kgisolutions.com/dealerpi...2215595410.jpg

http://www.kgisolutions.com/dealerpi...2215595413.jpg

http://www.kgisolutions.com/dealerpi...2215595421.jpg

Leviticus 03-23-2010 05:14 PM

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Ok, guys,

Here are some pics of the front fitment issue. It looks like it is just hitting the front edge of the hub bore, from what I can tell, nothing behind where it is hitting towards the front of the wheel is an issue.

Its hard to judge how far off the rotor face it is sitting cause the wheels wants to oscillate on the hub but it looks like about a 1/4" or less. I think we are better off than the old version, but not direct fit.

I pulled my Caliper Gauge out to get you numbers on the hub bore but its and electric one and the battery was dead (left it on doh!) I'll get some batteries for it today.

You can see where its hitting in the hub in the pics.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e1...g/DSC04011.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e1...g/DSC04012.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e1...g/DSC04013.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e1...g/DSC04014.jpg

brossow 03-23-2010 05:19 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Leviticus (Post 3877723)
I pulled my Caliper Gauge out to get you numbers on the hub bore but its and electric one and the battery was dead (left it on doh!) I'll get some batteries for it today.

Your box says it's the 82.80mm bore, so no real need to measure unless the box is mislabeled. I've got a brand-new caliper at home I've been looking for an excuse to use, so if I remember I'll see what the OD of the hub on my 1.25" rotors is when I get home.

72mistressc10 03-23-2010 05:20 PM

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I think there is a problem with your order Leviticus. That part number is suppose to have a Hub Bore of 94.62 (3.725 Inch). This was confirmed on the phone with Troy from American Eagle, Troy has my contact info and will be calling me back with more of an explanation.

http://www.elites-wholesale.com/Shop...d/0/rid/126374
This website also shows the new hub size.

Leviticus 03-23-2010 05:43 PM

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Ok, guys,

A little redneck machining aka a grinder and they slid right on!! Looks like the fronts are solved, now onto the rears.

Before and after, you only have to take a little off, not much.

Havent tried the new revised center cap yet but will let you know in a few.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e1...g/DSC04014.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e1...g/DSC04015.jpg

Wildstreak 03-23-2010 05:44 PM

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now its looking more promising. not that I was really worried to begin with.

Strut 03-23-2010 05:55 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Wildstreak (Post 3877772)
now its looking more promising. not that I was really worried to begin with.

I was sweating bullets! I want these wheels and I want them to fit....

Wildstreak 03-23-2010 05:58 PM

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Same here! I want these wheels bad too, theres almost enough of us getting these to form a club lol.

brossow 03-23-2010 07:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 72mistressc10 (Post 3877734)
I think there is a problem with your order Leviticus. That part number is suppose to have a Hub Bore of 94.62 (3.725 Inch). This was confirmed on the phone with Troy from American Eagle, Troy has my contact info and will be calling me back with more of an explanation.

Either way I find it interesting that the wheels didn't fit, because I just measured the hub diameter on my 1.25" rotors and the hub is only 2.961" (75.21 mm) wide, so either wheel should bolt right on. (These are stock replacement rotors from AutoZone or Advanced Auto, can't remember which.) Weird.

Brent

6D8_C10 03-23-2010 07:39 PM

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Im still a little confused or retarded or both. Laviticus you wrote that they still didn't fit. Is that the 20" or the 18"s? So, this group buy is for the new version, with the modes so we DON'T have to use a spacer and it fits the hub on the front right?

I want (2x) 18x8 and (2x) 18x9.5 in grey to go on my '71 frame with stock rotors. I am getting CPP's Modular Dropped Spindles, with lowered springs.

Also is there any issue with the Shipping address being different than the Billing address. Since I am working in a different state with the Army.

Leviticus 03-23-2010 07:39 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by brossow (Post 3877912)
Either way I find it interesting that the wheels didn't fit, because I just measured the hub diameter on my 1.25" rotors and the hub is only 2.961" (75.21 mm) wide, so either wheel should bolt right on. (These are stock replacement rotors from AutoZone or Advanced Auto, can't remember which.) Weird.

Brent


Brent,

Loot at the pictures of the hub bore on my other post, the taper from the back to the front of the wheel. They are deffinately the new design, I think some genius at Boss thought we were having fitment issues at the base of the hub and not the front.

Either way, it was a five minute fix and I got em on.

As for the rears :dohh: when I was at my tire store I had them pull a tamper proof lug nut off that I didn't have the key for, well he got it off and he grabbed a replacement lug nut and proceeded to put it on. Well I walked around the back of my truck and noticed his impact wrench was hammering all the way down the threads not just when it snugged up.

The damage was done, he either cross threaded it or used the wrong lug nut. When I went to pull it off it was really tight on the threads, it spun about 1 and a 1/2 turns then stripped the splines inside the drum:uhmk:.

So I call em, they say yeah bring it back down, I drive all the way back to town and they say they can't fix it till tomorrow...it has been one of those days, its beer time now!

I'll pull the other side and see if the 1/4" spacer will work...after I finish this beer:lol:

Leviticus 03-23-2010 07:44 PM

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I did get some funny looks driving back into town with 20's on the front and 15" Cragars on the rear though, maybe it will catch on as the new fad....man I sure hope not:lol:


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