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More inspiration. I located two Longhorn beds sort of close by, but a little short on cash.

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Thanks!

Now this is a happy garage...:lol:

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Rockie, that powerplant is looking good. I love shiny. What are the specs on it?? The dark charcoal block color works for me (hmmmm... gets a guy thinking).

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I hear you on the shiny:lol:, I didn't really plan it all that way but when you're out shopping for stuff and the shiny is only a few dollars more...I couldn't resist;).

I like the idea of a charcoal colored block...shoulda thought of that. This is just a black block, not the greatest coverage though.

This engine was pretty clean but still needed a going through. I didn't want to drop big bucks into it, so reused as much as we could. Stock pistons/rods were in good shape as were cylinders, so no overbore...just rehone cylinders after vatting and magnafluxing the block. We did use ARP fasteners throughout along with milling both the heads and block a bit...as much for a true, clean seal surface as for bumping the compression a little...probably around 8.25 to 1 or so. All new bearings/seals/freeze plugs/rings of course, balanced the rotating assy, degree the cam, micro polish the crank, line bore (one main was a smidge tight). A "performance" valve job, well as much as possible with peanut ports :lol:, bronze valve guides, 3/8 push rods w/ new guide plates.
We used the basic Edelbrock Performer package with their #2162 cam (218*/228* @.050 and .295/.295 in/ex), the #2161 intake, and a #1411 750 cfm square bore carb.
Dropped a MSD Street fire dist in with 8mm Taylor wires and found a inexpensive set of no-name block huggers (on clearance at a local speed shop - we'll see how long they last).
We think this will be a good match for the SM465 (and 4.10 R&P) we'll be using. :metal::metal:

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That should be a real nice setup for the truck.

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Are you still planning on getting a D60 for the front?

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Already got it. Picked up a dually D60 about a month and a half ago, got it tore down and am still in the process of cleaning and rebuilding it.
It's pretty rough but certainly salvageable, gonna need calipers, seals, and inner axles on both sides (inner seals wore pretty deep grooves), but the R&P and bearings look good:metal:.
Thought we'd need new rotors, but they cleaned up at 1.35".

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We think so...it can't come quick enough though.

As much as we enjoy putting along with the original, now smoky, 235 (gallon of oil to every tank of gas)...it was wheezing pretty hard with this relatively light load!

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Sweet! :metal:

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Started cleaning, painting, and gathering parts for, the front D60.

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that is a fine looking pile of parts you got there

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very nice

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Very nice! This will be a killer rig! Now, I have a couple questions for you.

Did you build the diff covers?
What kind of paint did you use on the front axle? I've been using Krylon lately, and for the money it sucks. I switched over to VHT and it seems to be a better product for spray bomb.

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Looks great! Id also like to know what kind of paint you used. Ive had good luck with rustoleum gloss black out of the can(gallon).

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Thanks, it's starting to come together. I almost don't want to take it down for the conversion...been enjoying it quite a bit using it like it is, but it's about that time. We're really hoping that we can get it in and out this winter and be running again by early spring.

I've had good luck with Rustoleum gloss black enamel (rattle can) and tend to use that most of the time.

Diff covers and spring plates were sourced from RuffStuff...lots of good parts there.

http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/catalog/index.php

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Are you going to rebuild the kingpins? I don't think I've ever had one apart that didn't have rusty bearings.

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Your build is looking awesome. I have a 70 ford with a flat bed that i am fixing to start working on. I love the loke of the flat bed trucks.

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King pins feel smooth and tight, I'm kinda waiting to see if I'm going to go high steer on pass side with a 2wd box and cross over, or keep something close to the stock configuration. I'm leaning toward crossover and will check them out then.

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Got a alt. mount built in between t-day duties...

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Wow that bracket looks awesome!

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That's a killer alternator mount, Rock. One more idea discovered on the pages of this forum. It's guys like you who make the rest of our daily driver projects become become bigger and more involved than we originally intended. ;)

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Very nice fab work once again!

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Thanks for the remarks, we really appreciate it!

Been working on the power steering set-up. Originally bought a saginaw pump/res, but couldn't fit it in tight to the block because of the short water pump. Chased down a type 2 pump/pulley/remote res from PSC...lots of room to put it where I wanted. :metal:

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We've been struggling with which seat we would use.
The original bench had a decent back, but rotted out bottom with missing springs/padding. We were looking at least $500 to get the parts we needed and have the stock bench reupholstered/rebuilt.
We got a set of pull out 2006 chevy truck buckets (with the seat belts in the back) to try...didn't like how they fit in the cab, I wanted more room. They were in perfect condition for $600 w/ center console (no way that was fitting)...so passed on those.
Looked at a mid 80's chevy bench, but wasn't really feeling it. Thought about the Astro van seats, but finding a take out seat in decent condition with a acceptable color wasn't likely...didn't want to reupholster a donor bench to get what I wanted.
So, took some measurements and talked to Twisted Stitch about a extended/expanded version of their Cruiser seat...a low side suspension seat that we liked in our Rhino. A couple weeks later, for about the same $ as reupholstering a bench of some sort, and we have this.
The back looks a bit tall, but we will see how it falls into place.

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Nice looking seat.
Kim

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Looks good man. Seats are sometimes a hard decision to make. There are so many factors to conisder, from color, style, size.

I think it will look good in the truck.

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Is that a tweed insert in the center?

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yep, I hope so...if not, I'll have a really nice garage bench:lol:

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Yes...

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As usual, very nice!

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Thanks DW!

Kinda looks like the seat is going to work:metal:, might of been room to make it an 1-1.5" wider and maybe an inch or so shorter. The base is sitting about an inch higher than the stock bench in the pics...might lower it a bit to bring the back lower relative to the window, but would like to keep the leg room increase too. Close enough to work either way though. Picked up some gut room too :lol:

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That looks like it fits pretty cool in there.

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Should be easy to adjust the height with your mounting system. :lol:

Looks good in there.

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Damn man! This build is great! I cant believe I never noticed it! You're my hero! :P

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Worked a bit on the seat over the weekend. Made a simple mount that utilized the stock holes, dropping the seat a just a bit under the rear window. Put a bit of lean to it, but still gained gut room and a higher seat...very comfortable for me. (6 ft. tall fat ass) :lol:

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Very nice!

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I am jealous, cuz you get to drive yours and I look at parts......... nice work on the seat.

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Seat and brackets turned out good.

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Man, those seat brackets turned out very nice!

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Loving the seat, put a few trips down to Sonic and around town running errands with the wife and dog...almost makes ya feel like your driving around in a new truck sitting up high and proud :lol::lol:

I hear ya Baja...I'm not looking forward to taking it down for the heart transplant. I want to have everything staged and ready before we start, hopefully it will go fast.