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bruceman1968 12-11-2016 02:32 PM

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iriereggaeman, Glad the decoders helped you out. You have a very nicely equipped suburban there. Welcome to the forum.

Kevin McPherson 03-05-2017 12:04 PM

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I am having trouble decoding my 1967 1/2 ton 4x4 suburban. Can you help? It doesn't seem to follow any of the rules. I only have a 12 digit VIN code, and the DMV tells me it should have 14.

Kevin McPherson 03-05-2017 12:18 PM

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This is the original options list

dmjlambert 03-05-2017 12:39 PM

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It follows the rules in the picture bruceman1968 posted at 08-02-2016, 10:16 PM above, post #108

According to your VIN and the decoder, you have a 4wd 8-cylinder 1/2-ton Suburban 1967 Fremont-built with 6 digit serial number.

That is 12 characters. DMV is mistaken (first time that has happened, probably :-).

Thanks for finding this thread and bringing it back to the top. It is interesting and informative and I'm going to bookmark it.

SS Tim 03-05-2017 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevin McPherson (Post 7876940)
I am having trouble decoding my 1967 1/2 ton 4x4 suburban. Can you help? It doesn't seem to follow any of the rules. I only have a 12 digit VIN code, and the DMV tells me it should have 14.

Kevin, While a 67 GMC could have a 14 digit VIN, the 12 digit VIN on your 67 Chevrolet Suburban is correct and clearly so !

As was indicated it breaks down as,
K Conventional Cab 4x4
E V-8 engine (base 283 in your case)
1 10 Series 1/2 ton
6 Suburban
7 1967 model year
Z Fremont California assembly plant
156477 Unit serial number



Additional SPID coded information

Paint code 451 is Medium Blue Poly (metallic) code 506, applied as a two-tone with a code 526 Ivory roof.

Model number KE10916 confirms it to be a 4x4 V-8 1/2 ton Suburban with tailgate.

Kevin McPherson 03-05-2017 02:31 PM

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Thank you, sometimes I miss the big things because I am looking for the fine print!!

Already Gone 03-05-2017 04:54 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SS Tim (Post 7877064)
Kevin, While a 67 GMC could have a 14 digit VIN, the 12 digit VIN on your 67 Chevrolet Suburban is correct and clearly so !

As was indicated it breaks down as,
K Conventional Cab 4x4
E V-8 engine (base 283 in your case)
1 10 Series 1/2 ton
6 Suburban
7 1967 model year
Z Fremont California assembly plant
156477 Unit serial number



Additional SPID coded information

Paint code 451 is Medium Blue Poly (metallic) code 506, applied as a two-tone with a code 526 Ivory roof.

Model number KE10916 confirms it to be a 4x4 V-8 1/2 ton Suburban with tailgate.


Curious as to what would the other 2 digits denote if there was a 14 digit serial number on a 1967 GMC?

SS Tim 03-05-2017 05:39 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Already Gone (Post 7877223)
Curious as to what would the other 2 digits denote if there was a 14 digit serial number on a 1967 GMC?


Its not that simple,
In a nutshell the big differences are an added GVW range as a suffix, two digit wheelbase, two digit model and a four digit serial.

To see the differences clearly just go to the begining of this thread and compare the 67 GMC to the 12 digit 67-71 Chevrolets. In 72 Chevrolets used a 13 digit VIN with an added maunfacturer digit.

Joerg 06-02-2018 11:23 AM

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Can anybody help me to decode this vin?

1C154L113981

its on a 60 Apache, here in Germany.
What I found:

1 = 1961
C = 2WD
15 = 1/2 ton
4 = Pickup
L = (found Los Angeles but not for this year)#
113981 = ser. number 3981, but that be?
Could this be real?

thank you for your help.
Joerg.

bruceman1968 06-02-2018 12:37 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Joerg (Post 8273361)
Can anybody help me to decode this vin?

1C154L113981

its on a 60 Apache, here in Germany.
What I found:

1 = 1961
C = 2WD
15 = 1/2 ton 127'wb
4 = Pickup
L = (found Los Angeles but not for this year)#
113981 = ser. number 3981, but that be? Serial numbers started at 100001 with the first truck. So your truck is number 13981 off the line.
Could this be real?

thank you for your help.
Joerg.

Joerg, I also have L=Los Angles in 1959. But I can't find L in 1960 or 61. sorry, I'll keep looking.

Joerg 06-04-2018 02:27 AM

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Thank you for the information.
I have a title which shows built in 1960 but the vin says 1961.
Can you explain how this works?

https://photos.app.goo.gl/RN7dwK3aTkBuMW2K2

regards
Joerg.

bruceman1968 06-04-2018 09:29 AM

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Jogre, that's pretty common. 1961s were built from August 1960 to July 1961. So a early 61 build is often titled as a 1960. Or if a late build sat on the lot till 1962, and then sold it could get titled as a 1962.

Joerg 06-06-2018 03:27 AM

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Thank you for this information.

Joerg

Joerg 06-07-2018 02:14 AM

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Another question. How can I identify the colour, engine and tranny of this old one?

bruceman1968 06-07-2018 06:52 PM

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Joerg, Start a thread in the 60-66 section. Here's a link.

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/forumdisplay.php?f=6

The guys in that section can answer your questions better than me. Also ask them about your L= Los Angeles assembly plant code. And don't forget to include a pic of your truck. They love pics.

Joerg 06-08-2018 12:53 AM

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Thank you, I'll do after it arrived this weekend...

preciador6 09-11-2018 07:31 PM

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Can anybody help me to decode this vin? PB1001NC2 For a GMC Value Van 1965 I think

BERT1972GMC5500 10-03-2018 11:37 AM

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Hello All
I have a 1972 GMC 5500 grain truck and want to know if its a 3 ton or a 5ton
The vin is TCE53WV508362It is a Canadian truck with a GVW of 20000-24000 lbs

iriereggaeman 02-21-2019 10:47 AM

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I made the discovery today that my '72 burb has two different VINs. One on the glove box, one on the door jamb. I imagine this happens from time to time as these old vehicles use parts from donors to be restored?

I guess my question is which is more accurate? Any opinions?

VIN =
glovebox: CKE162F145864
door: CKE262F143439

C = Chevy
K = 4WD
E = V-8
1 = 1/2 ton | 2 = 3/4 ton
6 = Suburban
2 = 1972
F = Built in Flint Michigan
145864 | 143439 serial number

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Travisarmenta 02-21-2019 11:29 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by iriereggaeman (Post 8471176)
I made the discovery today that my '72 burb has two different VINs. One on the glove box, one on the door jamb. I imagine this happens from time to time as these old vehicles use parts from donors to be restored?

I guess my question is which is more accurate? Any opinions?

VIN =
glovebox: CKE162F145864
door: CKE262F143439

C = Chevy
K = 4WD
E = V-8
1 = 1/2 ton | 2 = 3/4 ton
6 = Suburban
2 = 1972
F = Built in Flint Michigan
145864 | 143439 serial number

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Hell of a SPID,

6 LUG OR 8 LUG?

Door jamb is probably correct

Have you verified the rear axle has a locker in it? or front?

I really want to believe that the person typing up the VIN on the SPID was just extremely hungover and screwed up, but there are too many numbers off.

Shame really because that's a highly optioned truck.

I hope its just a mistake.

iriereggaeman 02-21-2019 12:08 PM

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6 lug. The front wheels have locking hubs. I guess I don't know how to tell if the rear differential is a locker.

Travisarmenta 02-21-2019 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by iriereggaeman (Post 8471222)
6 lug. The front wheels have locking hubs. I guess I don't know how to tell if the rear differential is a locker.

Glove box door may be correct then, 1/2 ton.

Post more pics, looks to be a nice truck.

iriereggaeman 02-21-2019 05:11 PM

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not my pics, but photos of my vehicle posted by others (before my ownership in 2011) I have made some mods since purchase
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZHcWFrI1AQ (private owner selling the old girl)
and
https://www.mecum.com/lots/SC0511-10...olet-suburban/
(Mecum listing that didn't apparently reach reserve.)

Vintage Windmills 02-21-2019 07:00 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by iriereggaeman (Post 8471176)
I made the discovery today that my '72 burb has two different VINs. One on the glove box, one on the door jamb. I imagine this happens from time to time as these old vehicles use parts from donors to be restored?

I guess my question is which is more accurate? Any opinions?

VIN =
glovebox: CKE162F145864
door: CKE262F143439

Look for the VIN on the frame. Driver side rail up by power steering pump. There may be one under the cab as well but thats hard to see.

Balto Bob 03-26-2019 04:10 PM

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Still looking for one that includes the bigger trucks. EM 4640M C1303D Cowl and chassis like for a school bus (this is a linen truck)

eengledow 06-25-2019 10:16 PM

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Getting ready to buy a 1972 GMC Sierra Grande, the vin is
CE234-S132178

Reading the decoders the 4 in CE234 should indicate Model year.....this is a 1972?

jocko 06-25-2019 10:20 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by eengledow (Post 8548572)
Getting ready to buy a 1972 GMC Sierra Grande, the vin is
CE234-S132178

Reading the decoders the 4 in CE234 should indicate Model year.....this is a 1972?

No, that VIN indicates a 70-71 GMC 3/4 ton fleetside 2WD V8 truck.

DeadheadNM 07-04-2019 11:37 AM

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Bruce this is a great resource I've relied upon many times. Thank you.

I'd like to add that Blazer VINs for the 1969 model year begin with "B". Here's a link to an example on the K5 SPID thread (where several others are documented): http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...&postcount=370

EDIT: Is there a chance you know the assembly month for a 1971 model year Blazer assembled in Flint with a sequence number of 654572? Prior to 71 all K5's were assembled in St Louis and I'm curious in what month Flint began K5 assembly. As I don't see many 71 Flint K5s I suspect is was later in the model year.

bruceman1968 07-04-2019 01:48 PM

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Deadhead, thank you for the props. We're glad you are finding the decoders useful and very pleased at the number of people that have found the resource useful.

We knew about the Blazer VINs when we put the decoders together but left it off to save space. It was just the one year and only on Blazer models, so we figured not enough affected to include it. We kept to the essentials so that the characters and boxes could be as big and readable as possible. We also left out things like the starting sequence number of 800001 for the 1969 model year and 600001 for the 1971 model year. But your absolutely right, First year Blazers had a B for Blazer as the first Character of the VIN.

As far as your 654572 Blazer build date. Lucky it's a 1971. I can only do this for 1971. Any other year and we would have to do it the hard way. Checking blue door stickers, Engine date codes etc. against the VIN number in a made/collected database. But for 1971 I have some documentation from GM that helps a lot. Your Flint Blazer 654572 was built on assembly line 2 on June 17th 1971 give or take a day or two. I estimated the date. All I really know is that the last light duty truck built in flint, line 2, in May 1971 was 649411. And the last LDT built in Flint line 2 in June 1971 was 658369.

Hope that helps and thanks again for the props.
Bruce

DeadheadNM 07-04-2019 02:07 PM

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Amazing! Thank you sir! Confirms my suspicion. I'll keep an eye out for additional 71 Flint K5s but of those so far documented (total 4) all were assembled in June of 71. Perhaps a trial run ahead of the 72 MY when Flint figured prominently in K5 production.

bruceman1968 07-04-2019 02:19 PM

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Just for fun check to see if you find any Blazers with a build sequence starting with a 8. Line 2 builds started with 6 and line 1 builds started with 8. (1971 Flint) I'm curious to see if all the Flint blazers were built on line 2 or both lines. I don't have any blazer SPIDs 1971 Flint that the sequence number starts with 8, but you might.

DeadheadNM 07-04-2019 03:17 PM

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I'm relying on those examples documented on the Blazer SPID thread. All of the 71 MY Flint built examples begin with 6 - there are no 8s to date.

I'll check the thread for Jimmy SPIDs and will post back if there are any Flint examples from 71.

Keith Seymore 07-11-2019 01:32 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bruceman1968 (Post 8553025)
Just for fun check to see if you find any Blazers with a build sequence starting with a 8. Line 2 builds started with 6 and line 1 builds started with 8. (1971 Flint) I'm curious to see if all the Flint blazers were built on line 2 or both lines. I don't have any blazer SPIDs 1971 Flint that the sequence number starts with 8, but you might.

Blazers were built on Flint Line 2 only.

Line 1 was specific to pickups.

K

bruceman1968 07-11-2019 02:48 PM

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Thanks Keith, Always good to hear it from the source.

Austinjay 01-17-2020 02:06 PM

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Recently picked up a 1969 GMC K2500 and i was wondering what the X in the VIN stands for? On the VIN decoder it says that space should be a dash or a special designation. Thanks for the help!

bruceman1968 01-17-2020 03:04 PM

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Jay, Does the VIN on the door jam(metal plate) have the X?

Austinjay 01-17-2020 03:26 PM

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That's a great question! I will look this afternoon when i get home.

Austinjay 01-20-2020 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by bruceman1968 (Post 8661278)
Jay, Does the VIN on the door jam(metal plate) have the X?

The VIN tag on the cab has the dash. The X must have been a default letter for the dash in the printing system.

70GM 01-20-2020 02:48 PM

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I could use help reading the vin on my 1970 GMC Jimmy. The vin does not seem to match up correctly to the 1970-1971 GMC vin decoder. Any help.is appreciated.

AussieinNC 01-20-2020 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by 70GM (Post 8662952)
I could use help reading the vin on my 1970 GMC Jimmy. The vin does not seem to match up correctly to the 1970-1971 GMC vin decoder. Any help.is appreciated.

KE114-SZ71554

K 4 WD
E V8
1 1/2 Ton
14 Jimmy

S St Louis
Z 1970

71,554 build identity

These are available in the first few pages of the LMC catalogs if you download the PDF file of the catalog...

Hope this helps...

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