Re: Starting 1966 Factory Short Bed Build, Bagged, 383 Stroker and Muncie M20 4-Speed
 

A quick Google search told me this:

Dominator 2600

Max height...…………………. 12.5"
Compressed height...……. 2.8"
Ride height...…..……………. 6-9"
Max diameter...…………….. 8"
Max load @ 100psi...……. 3055#
Air fitting size...……………. 1/2"
Top hardware size...…….. 3/8"-16
Bottom hardware size..... 3/8"-16
Mounting hole centers.... 2.75"


Dominator 2500

Max height...…………………. 10.5"
Compressed height...……. 2.8"
Ride height...…..……………. 5.5-7.5"
Max diameter...…………….. 7"
Max load @ 100psi...……. 2030#
Air fitting size...……………. 1/2"
Top hardware size...…….. 3/8"-16
Bottom hardware size..... 3/8"-16
Mounting hole centers.... 1.75"

Re: Starting 1966 Factory Short Bed Build, Bagged, 383 Stroker and Muncie M20 4-Speed
 

i just checked, they are 2600 series.
Thank you for doing this. I understand alot more now and i really get what you were talking about in the ride height vs other.
Surprise, this is my first air bag install. I really like the idea, been in air bag truck and loved it, and so here I go. lol.
Damn, i need to come visit you and buy you and your significant other one hell of a dinner and drinks! I really appreciate your time!!
Anyone reading this that is somewhat new to this site, this is what you can expect from not just Scoti, but there are others who will help you with things you never even knew about.
God Bless you my friend.
Im more excited now than ever to get back out there and work on it now. lol

Re: Starting 1966 Factory Short Bed Build, Bagged, 383 Stroker and Muncie M20 4-Speed
 

Again.... No problem.

To be honest, it gets even more confusing because all bags are not created equal. Some bags are inherently 'stiffer' vs. others. Some have bump stops where others don't. Some require fitting adapters vs. threading the fitting directly in place (less chances for air leaks).

I went back & looked @ your set-up again. I missed that you do have lowering blocks as it's assembled now. You definitely will need to scrutinize the set-up if it doesn't ride to your satisfaction @ the height you desire. I recall mine only needed ~25psi for my desired ride height. At that pressure, it did not ride smooth & was overworking the shocks. Once it was around 40psi, the ride was much better/smoother but then the rear was prob ~2" higher than what I wanted (to match the static front drop).

Re: Starting 1966 Factory Short Bed Build, Bagged, 383 Stroker and Muncie M20 4-Speed
 

I just measured and if the bags are at 5" height, that puts the top of the axle tube at the bottom of the frame approx. So this may not be bad, but only time will tell. At least now i know what i will need to do to get it where i want it.
I can adjust all for bags independently. I really wanted this ability, not that is matters much, but i like the idea.

Re: Starting 1966 Factory Short Bed Build, Bagged, 383 Stroker and Muncie M20 4-Speed
 

Oh yeah, you definitely want to be able to adjust/isolate each corner independently.

Since you have lowering blocks, OE style T/A's & larger diameter wheels, you can always do a taller block if you need more psi in the bag for ride quality. The taller block adds more drop so you add more air psi to get things back to where you were w/a shorter block.

It's not recommended on smaller diameter wheels because of Scrub-Line concerns but you should be ok since you're not using 15's/stock steel wheels.

Re: Starting 1966 Factory Short Bed Build, Bagged, 383 Stroker and Muncie M20 4-Speed
 

Good info. Thanks again.

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So, this weekend i will have more updates.
After some great help and suggestions on this site, Scoti and CaptainFab, i have a long and bent pan hard bar coming, a new rack and pinion system, rubber snubs for axle, new rear shocks, battery, wires, and a few other minor pieces. I would love to have the frame mobile this weekend, God Willing.

Re: Starting 1966 Factory Short Bed Build, Bagged, 383 Stroker and Muncie M20 4-Speed
 

Awesome. Looking forward to seeing what you think of that no frame modification rack and pinion setup, sounds intriguing..

Re: Starting 1966 Factory Short Bed Build, Bagged, 383 Stroker and Muncie M20 4-Speed
 

Interesting read.....

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=804452

Re: Starting 1966 Factory Short Bed Build, Bagged, 383 Stroker and Muncie M20 4-Speed
 

Excellent work! Very nice detail on everything. Just read through your thread; can't wait to see it all come together!

Re: Starting 1966 Factory Short Bed Build, Bagged, 383 Stroker and Muncie M20 4-Speed
 

Thank you sir, i appreciate it. Hopefully i can help someone with what i am doing.

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So, you were interested in how it went? Well it went as smooth as i could have asked for! I was amazed! 4 large bots and tada.... its in and done.
Now honestly, it took me about an hour to just get it installed, figuring out what holes to use for the mount. Basically, i was trying to make it alot harder than it was. LOL I Laughed at myself once i figured it out.
So, here are multiple pics of the install....

Re: Starting 1966 Factory Short Bed Build, Bagged, 383 Stroker and Muncie M20 4-Speed
 

a few more bolt in power rack

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a few more

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last couple

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The Rack and Pinion is a powered Rack that is truly bolt in. I got it from POL (Performance Online) and here is part number and link:
https://www.performanceonline.com/19...nd-Pinion-Kit/

Cost is just around $900.00 without hose kit.

Re: Starting 1966 Factory Short Bed Build, Bagged, 383 Stroker and Muncie M20 4-Speed
 

Looks like a simple/clean install.

What rack model is utilized? Tie-rod ends?
Those are wearables that you need to know the ID for when you perform future service replacement work.

Re: Starting 1966 Factory Short Bed Build, Bagged, 383 Stroker and Muncie M20 4-Speed
 

great point, ill ask

Re: Starting 1966 Factory Short Bed Build, Bagged, 383 Stroker and Muncie M20 4-Speed
 

ok, so i emailed POL on the rack and the parts associted and ask if i ever need to replace parts, what do i use, here i response:

Thanks for your interest in our products. It will be hard to replace direct as the inner tie rod ends are machined special.
Rack is from a mid 90's Dodge Dakota. Outer tie rod ends are for the 1963-70 Chevy c10

Re: Starting 1966 Factory Short Bed Build, Bagged, 383 Stroker and Muncie M20 4-Speed
 

I would ask for clarification on this info (after you provide your purchase info so they don't think you're trying to scam them). Point being, this is a non-stock part that you're building your steering set-up around. Should POL go out of business somehow/someway, you need a Plan-B if yours wears or becomes compromised.

Just glancing, it looks like maybe they're using adapters as the sleeve between the inner/out TRE. Maybe that's what he was referring to & what you'd want to clarify.

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Yeah that looks so good! Coming together very nicely!! :cool:

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Quick look-up shows the inner as part of the R&P ('96 2wd model). Moog does show a replacement for inner & outer but the inners are a different deal vs. just swapping inner/outer TRE's on the original style steering.

My bet is they are just using a machined sleeve/adapter of the correct size/thread pitch that the correct C10 spindle outer TRE will thread into. Either modifying the inners length or accommodating the dimension into the adapter sleeve.

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Hi Jeff,

Good to see the chassis member in place and looks good powder coated in red.

Tried to respond to your DM but your mail box is full.

Want to arrange a good time to call.

P. :D

Re: Starting 1966 Factory Short Bed Build, Bagged, 383 Stroker and Muncie M20 4-Speed
 

I think you are correct. IMO that aluminum sleeve looks a little thin where the outer TRE screws in. Plus I would think there would be a jamb nut there.

Re: Starting 1966 Factory Short Bed Build, Bagged, 383 Stroker and Muncie M20 4-Speed
 

Yes. Adapters get a jam nut to keep the TRE's from moving/loosening once assembled & aligned.

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should be good now. Sorry about that

Re: Starting 1966 Factory Short Bed Build, Bagged, 383 Stroker and Muncie M20 4-Speed
 

loving this build, you're doing most of what i want to do to mine so i cant wait to see it done.

Re: Starting 1966 Factory Short Bed Build, Bagged, 383 Stroker and Muncie M20 4-Speed
 

Well Thank you. If you have any questions please let me know.

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ok, installed the front disc brake kit, all part of CPP lower kit. Also, trying to snug fit the air lines for the air bags.

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New Rear Disc Brake kit from Master Brakes, great company, great stuff, perfect fit and good customer support
First couple pics of mounts, you will notice i have the the Driver side on pass and Pass on Driver... lol they were swapped.
Aslo, caliper are painted red of course

Re: Starting 1966 Factory Short Bed Build, Bagged, 383 Stroker and Muncie M20 4-Speed
 

more with the new Rear Disc Brakes and then onto a full roller!!!

Re: Starting 1966 Factory Short Bed Build, Bagged, 383 Stroker and Muncie M20 4-Speed
 

Full Roller now... still some work to do, but it it movable now!!

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few with Ruler to see how low it is.
Currently there is 0 air in bags and it is on the rubber snubs front and rear

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Happy w/it?

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so far, yes i am

Re: Starting 1966 Factory Short Bed Build, Bagged, 383 Stroker and Muncie M20 4-Speed
 

It's lookin good. Glad you're happy.

Re: Starting 1966 Factory Short Bed Build, Bagged, 383 Stroker and Muncie M20 4-Speed
 

thank you sir, for all your help to date!! I really appreciate it

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Glad to partake 🤓👍

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Now its onto brake lines, air lines and fuel lines, routing and securing to frame or ....
I have the fuel line - PTFE with all -6an fittings, all air lines which i can only do so much with until the cab is mounted because the lines go into the cab to the gauges. The air tank and pump will be mounted in the bed. My issue is where to get brake lines.

Re: Starting 1966 Factory Short Bed Build, Bagged, 383 Stroker and Muncie M20 4-Speed
 

Looking good Jeff!

Appreciate your time on Thursday, will keep you updated.

P. :D