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sevt_chevelle 05-09-2012 08:19 PM

Re: Kabwe's aka Bam's build
 
Dan,
the point of the slapper is that it has a larger surface area and therefore spreads the force of the blow lessen the chance of damaging the panel. It is also easier to find the dolly.

Yes you should be applying upward pressure with the dolly when doing both hammer ON and hammer OFF.

This might help you out on some hammer and dolly techniques...Eric

http://www.chevelles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=333455

candyx 05-09-2012 09:19 PM

Re: Kabwe's aka Bam's build
 
Teach that skill to enough guys you'll be able to put Bondo out of business,finishing metal with a hammer that you can paint........

Kabwe 05-09-2012 11:13 PM

Re: Kabwe's aka Bam's build
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jesse49chevy (Post 5371488)
i am having a hard time picking my jaw up from the ground.....
MAN!!! youve done some work.... hats off!!! looks great!

Put your jaw up man its only work.lol Thanks for the compliment.

Quote:

Originally Posted by VDOG (Post 5371818)
When I worked for an aircraft company, we would get 3 crates of slappers every two weeks. Who knew they were that important in bodywork.

I told you that you need to use your mind.lol
Quote:

Originally Posted by duallyjams (Post 5371876)
You got skills.

Thanks

Quote:

Originally Posted by mknittle (Post 5371878)
Thanks Kabwe, great idea making the slapper. Guess what I will be making soon! that will be a good addition to my home made T dollys.I am a huge fan of home made tools!

That slapper tool is not my idea I read a lot and continue to try and learn things all the time. A person that thinks they know everything can never improve there skills. I've learned a lot from people on sites like metalmeet and I'm just passing it along like we are suppose to do. There is nothing wrong with filler I'm just trying to do better work with each build.

I also tried a lot of things that I've seen sevt_chevelle post on here and other sites and his tips have made my work easier. The marker idea I saw him do I use to use spray paint and let it dry. I also use to only use hammers. So listen to the guy it can only help.

Sevt_Chevelle thanks for all the tips that you posted over the years I still use them they have help me improve my skills immensely. I'm still trying to get to your level. Just know that people are listening.lol

CURSED GEARS 05-10-2012 06:03 AM

Re: Kabwe's aka Bam's build
 
I've been away for awhile, Impressive work on that fender. Good Job!

Kabwe 05-10-2012 12:41 PM

Re: Kabwe's aka Bam's build
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CURSED GEARS (Post 5372639)
I've been away for awhile, Impressive work on that fender. Good Job!

Thanks man.

Dan in Pasadena 05-10-2012 02:20 PM

Re: Kabwe's aka Bam's build
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sevt_chevelle (Post 5371912)
Dan,
the point of the slapper is that it has a larger surface area and therefore spreads the force of the blow lessen the chance of damaging the panel. It is also easier to find the dolly.

Yes you should be applying upward pressure with the dolly when doing both hammer ON and hammer OFF.

This might help you out on some hammer and dolly techniques...Eric

http://www.chevelles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=333455

Thanks for taking the time to read the posts on the prior page and for responding. If Bam says your work is great is must be GRRREAT - Tony the Tiger great, ha ha.

I'm gonna do a quick search on your name and take a look. I'm asure I'll be impressed. Thanks again, Dan

fat56 05-11-2012 12:23 AM

Re: Kabwe's aka Bam's build
 
looking good i wish i had your skills :) good to see your sticking with your buddys fenders.

That would take some time with the red marker.. i have use the oxy before and just the slowest orange flame and it will leave black soot over the fender.

Kabwe 05-11-2012 09:28 AM

Re: Kabwe's aka Bam's build
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fat56 (Post 5374388)
looking good i wish i had your skills :) good to see your sticking with your buddys fenders.

That would take some time with the red marker.. i have use the oxy before and just the slowest orange flame and it will leave black soot over the fender.

Thanks man.


Believe it or not it does not take long at all with a thick tip marker like this.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7098/7...2626c966c0.jpg

CAL 58 GMC 05-11-2012 11:19 AM

Re: Kabwe's aka Bam's build
 
Once again your skills amaze me!

Kabwe 05-11-2012 11:44 AM

Re: Kabwe's aka Bam's build
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CAL 58 GMC (Post 5374913)
Once again your skills amaze me!

Flattery will get you far my friend.lol

Whats the latest on the Chevelle project you have not posted lately? Yes I've been following that build.lol

sevt_chevelle 05-11-2012 04:52 PM

Re: Kabwe's aka Bam's build
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fat56 (Post 5374388)
looking good i wish i had your skills :) good to see your sticking with your buddys fenders.

That would take some time with the red marker.. i have use the oxy before and just the slowest orange flame and it will leave black soot over the fender.

I can do the whole rear fender on my AD in about 1 minute. No waiting for it to dry like spray paint, dykem and no soot falling...Eric

P.S the tip on the Magnum markers I get at Home depot for 3 bucks have a 1 1/4 wide tip and last a long time.

Kabwe 05-11-2012 05:18 PM

Re: Kabwe's aka Bam's build
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sevt_chevelle (Post 5375376)
P.S the tip on the Magnum markers I get at Home depot for 3 bucks have a 1 1/4 wide tip and last a long time.

Its time to hit home depot than. The red one I used was cool but it did not have a 1 1/4 that's huge.

sevt_chevelle 05-11-2012 07:44 PM

Re: Kabwe's aka Bam's build
 
http://i969.photobucket.com/albums/a...ing2009062.jpg

Sometimes I even use spray dykem because it leaves behind a nice gloss sheen which mimics paint so you can see what the panel will look like once painted...Eric

http://i969.photobucket.com/albums/a...Picture003.jpg

http://i969.photobucket.com/albums/a...e0072-Copy.jpg

And yes guys you can get a surface that requires nothing but a few coats of primer.

http://inlinethumb58.webshots.com/48...600x600Q85.jpg

R.A.D 05-11-2012 09:03 PM

Re: Kabwe's aka Bam's build
 
i like this

Kabwe 05-11-2012 10:37 PM

Re: Kabwe's aka Bam's build
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sevt_chevelle (Post 5375586)

That fender is a beauty

Quote:

Originally Posted by R.A.D (Post 5375693)
i like this

Yep this is what forums should be about sharing info.

oldman3 05-11-2012 11:20 PM

Re: Kabwe's aka Bam's build
 
Wow, that fender is super straight.....Jim

mknittle 05-12-2012 10:12 AM

Re: Kabwe's aka Bam's build
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sevt_chevelle (Post 5375586)
http://i969.photobucket.com/albums/a...ing2009062.jpg

Sometimes I even use spray dykem because it leaves behind a nice gloss sheen which mimics paint so you can see what the panel will look like once painted...Eric

http://i969.photobucket.com/albums/a...Picture003.jpg

http://i969.photobucket.com/albums/a...e0072-Copy.jpg

And yes guys you can get a surface that requires nothing but a few coats of primer.

http://inlinethumb58.webshots.com/48...600x600Q85.jpg

I never thought of using Dykem for body work.And I did 20 years in machine shops of some kind or another.

Dan in Pasadena 05-12-2012 01:10 PM

Re: Kabwe's aka Bam's build
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kabwe (Post 5374949)
Flattery will get you far my friend.lol

Ok well then, I LOVE you man. Kissy kissy, MWAHH. Bam you're THE most handsome, talented man in the WORLD.

Now, will you come over and do all the body work on my truck?:lol:

Seriously though, can I insert a little something -truly NOT trying to hijack but - you're the guy that has most encouraged me to take on body work myself; directly and indirectly cause I've been inspried by the stuff you can do.

I bought a used little Hobart Handler 140 from a friend for $300. Its been sitting a year and I finally got it out yesterday and tried welding for the FIRST time since (gulp) 1976!! on an I beam I have. The machine had flux core in it so I figured I should just use it up. Here's a quick iPhone photo of my first 3 beads. Middle is best I think. I was "pulling" and had comfortable body position. For the top bead I switched sides and "pushed" while resting my hand along the beam flange. Results are "eh..." Bottom bead I pulled again by wasn't in a comforatble position - I didn't realize how big a deal that was. Feel free to tell me I SUCK as a welder. But I just wanted to thank you for inspiring me to get off my lazy butt

http://i832.photobucket.com/albums/z...lds5-11-12.jpg

Kabwe 05-12-2012 02:30 PM

Re: Kabwe's aka Bam's build
 
Dan you are nuts.lol

My first suggestion to you would be to get you some gas, you will find that the look are your welds improve greatly. These will aid you practicing more because you enjoy what you are seeing.lol I'm sure you already understand that you don't run beads on sheetmetal and you only tack and than fill in that tack try to keep the metal cool as possible.

My mig is a Hobart 180 which I love.lol

As far as thicker metal and running beads the push method has deeper penetration than the pull method as you can see from you pics. When I thick stuff I do a variation of the push method a lot. I push and at the same time make tiny little circles over the seam. Its just sometime I like doing and not necessary.

I would never tell anyone their welds suck I would only make suggestions to help improve them and share little tricks I've learned and I'm still learning. You never stop learning man. If you goal is to join to pieces of metal together that is easily learned with a mig. But you have guys out there that are true artist. Guys that make welds look like a machine done them. I'm a functional welder who's trying to get better and better.

mknittle 05-12-2012 02:44 PM

Re: Kabwe's aka Bam's build
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan in Pasadena (Post 5376538)
Ok well then, I LOVE you man. Kissy kissy, MWAHH. Bam you're THE most handsome, talented man in the WORLD.

Now, will you come over and do all the body work on my truck?:lol:

Seriously though, can I insert a little something -truly NOT trying to hijack but - you're the guy that has most encouraged me to take on body work myself; directly and indirectly cause I've been inspried by the stuff you can do.

I bought a used little Hobart Handler 140 from a friend for $300. Its been sitting a year and I finally got it out yesterday and tried welding for the FIRST time since (gulp) 1976!! on an I beam I have. The machine had flux core in it so I figured I should just use it up. Here's a quick iPhone photo of my first 3 beads. Middle is best I think. I was "pulling" and had comfortable body position. For the top bead I switched sides and "pushed" while resting my hand along the beam flange. Results are "eh..." Bottom bead I pulled again by wasn't in a comforatble position - I didn't realize how big a deal that was. Feel free to tell me I SUCK as a welder. But I just wanted to thank you for inspiring me to get off my lazy butt

http://i832.photobucket.com/albums/z...lds5-11-12.jpg

Looks like you need more heatand slow down just a little don't be afrade to experiment. BAM is right about the gas, but any practice is better than none.

mknittle 05-12-2012 02:48 PM

Re: Kabwe's aka Bam's build
 
This may help.http://www.weldingtipsandtricks.com/

Kabwe 05-12-2012 02:53 PM

Re: Kabwe's aka Bam's build
 
mknittle,

Did you really have to quote Dan weird first lines again.lol Flattery thats above and beyond. Thanks for responding and helping explain.

Dan,

I don't care about that hijack thread stuff. If people are reading this thread and something they read helps them or someone asked a question that others were thinking I'm all for it.

Dan in Pasadena 05-12-2012 02:54 PM

Re: Kabwe's aka Bam's build
 
Thanks Bam. The ONLY reason I used the flux core was
1. I had it already.
2. I'm modifying my garage rear wall opening the RIGHT way (old guy prior owner hacked it) by putting in a structural steel frame.

Unfortunately the steel I found cheap on CL was huge for this purpose and truthfully, my 140 isn't really big enough for the job so I maxed out the settings and used what I had to practice/see how it'd do.

Yes, I know to tack weld sheet metal and to move around to keep the metal cool. I'm getting a tall bottle of Ag/Co2 this week and .023" wire but I THINK I know that won't work on this structural stuff. Thanks for the push advice.

Now, back to your truck. Sorry for the sidetrack.

mknittle 05-12-2012 02:59 PM

Re: Kabwe's aka Bam's build
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kabwe (Post 5376623)
mknittle,

Did you really have to quote Dan weird first lines again.lol Flattery thats above and beyond. Thanks for responding and helping explain.

Dan,

I don't care about that hijack thread stuff. If people are reading this thread and something they read helps them or someone asked a question that others were thinking I'm all for it.

Lol sorryI iwas thinking about the welding and .......

_Ogre 05-12-2012 07:37 PM

Re: Kabwe's aka Bam's build
 
dan, you suck up, i guess i'm the only guy out there that preaches flux core, only because i own one :D
all of my bed mods and frame were done with flux core
like kabwe says, push will work better in most situations, i learned to hook like repeated J welds


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