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Dieselwrencher 12-01-2010 01:30 AM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
I will agree the industrial hubs are a joke. We have those in our W700's at work. I'm pretty sure a long while back, we had a TSB to replace all the hub to axle mounting bolts because Dana had a bad run of them. The dodge hubs are a lot stronger than those. Granted these bolts will break in the dodge style hubs, but usually you will break an axle first. Try putting a 14bolt in a 550hp 1100ft lb diesel pulling truck and tell me how long it lives. Heck, put it in a pick up and go drag racing. I have done it, and they suck for that application. The pick up Dana 80's are much stronger than a 14 bolt. I have used 14 bolts in dodges to try to save money and all it did was waste my time and money. The axles didn't even last 2 complete pulls and a dana 70 from a dodge would make a atleast 6 hooks and I hate them too. :lol:

Dieselwrencher 12-08-2010 12:46 AM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
Well I pushed the truck outside to make room for ford month. I have 3 fords to get going by the end of the year. My brother is coming home from California and wants to drive his 92 F-350 back home. I also have the 04 super duty to finish. Plus in between all the mayhem, I have to get my 95 F-350 drivable. It is closer to driving than the Longhorn is. Oh well, it'll get done sooner or later.
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x...onghorn008.jpg
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x...onghorn009.jpg
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x...onghorn010.jpg
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x...onghorn011.jpg

Dieselwrencher 12-08-2010 12:48 AM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
I'm going to check into getting some rear wheels made to set the rear track a little closer in the wheel well. Right now it is just too wide, and I haven't fully commited to making it DRW. That is still an option though.

jbclassix 12-14-2010 05:32 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
I really like your builds

Dieselwrencher 12-14-2010 05:54 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
Thanks jbclassix. Can anyone tell me if the 8 lug wheels for the 88 up chevy trucks have a different offset like the 6 lug wheels of that era? That would solve my rear tire stance a little bit.

watahyahknow 12-14-2010 06:14 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
might be eazier to try to find some aftermarket rims , havent found a website yet that had that info on stock steel wheels

maibe theres some info in the hollander interchange manual

mosesburb 12-15-2010 12:13 AM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dieselwrencher (Post 4349824)
Thanks jbclassix. Can anyone tell me if the 8 lug wheels for the 88 up chevy trucks have a different offset like the 6 lug wheels of that era? That would solve my rear tire stance a little bit.

The IFS 4x4 wheels are offset to the inside much more than the straight-axle wheels. You also might check into stock Dodge wheels as they are offset inboard a bit more, but not as much as the IFS GM wheels.

Dieselwrencher 12-15-2010 04:46 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mosesburb (Post 4350651)
The IFS 4x4 wheels are offset to the inside much more than the straight-axle wheels. You also might check into stock Dodge wheels as they are offset inboard a bit more, but not as much as the IFS GM wheels.

Thanks. That's what I was hoping for. That is how the 88 up 6 bolt rally wheels I have is like. I'm going to call on a pair right now.

jbclassix 12-15-2010 04:46 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mosesburb (Post 4350651)
The IFS 4x4 wheels are offset to the inside much more than the straight-axle wheels. You also might check into stock Dodge wheels as they are offset inboard a bit more, but not as much as the IFS GM wheels.

somewhere in my build thread is a picture of the 88+ wheels mounted on the Dana 60. you can see from how far out the hub sticks how much offset they have. I think in Mosesburbs build he has some picures of the earlier steel wheels mounted on a dana 60 front for comparison. I can go out and measure the 88+ wheels, I dont have the ambition today to take a wheel off the white burb to measure it, and my spare is a 16.5.

69CSTDawg 12-24-2010 02:10 AM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
LOVING THIS BUILD,really wanting to do this myself for my next project,definately gonna use this for reference

Dieselwrencher 12-29-2010 12:25 AM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
Thanks for the wheel help guys. I'm also trying to get a shop to re-center my wheels if they will do it is another story. I don't know yet. Well, I have 2 more big customer projects to finish and then back on to this project. Look for a thread tomorrow on my brother's 92 F-350 we just got back together.

Dieselwrencher 01-08-2011 01:20 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
No real progress but I did get some small parts. Funny story here. 2-3 months ago I was searching the net trying to see who had the cheapest prices on Cheyenne30 and Super emblems. Well I decided to get them from American Classic truck parts. I ordered one pair of each on their store, paid and everything. Weeks go by and I never heard anything. I called them and they never got my order. So I contacted Mekdad to have him build me some custom billet aluminum emblems. Last week Ken emails me and tells me they are done. Super. Later that day I check my account and low and behold there was a strange charge on my account. Can you guess? It was from American Classic for my order I never placed. So now I have 2 sets of emblems, and don't know if I'll send the ones back to American Classic yet or not. Dang the luck! :lol:

BLAZERMAN 01-08-2011 01:48 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
You know were gonna need pics of those custom made emblems!! I thought maybe you would have small Cummins emblems made in place of the Super to go below the Cheyenne/30

Dieselwrencher 01-09-2011 03:09 AM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
I'l get some pics when they arrive. I should have him make me some Super C ones but I actually didn't think of that.

Dieselwrencher 01-09-2011 03:19 AM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
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Here are some pics for you Rob to give you an idea of what they look like.

1985-GMC 01-09-2011 03:37 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
Man those look really nice! How much did those cost you? Why didn't you do Cheyenne 30, and 6 359?

71blksuper4x4 01-10-2011 02:28 AM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
Nice Job Ryan. Can't wait to see your custom emblems when they arrive. Let me know what you wind up doing on those factory style 30 emblems. I have looked and looked for some used ones, but no luck for the future crew build. Trevor

Dieselwrencher 01-11-2011 04:03 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
Thanks guys. Trevor, I'll let you know what I decide to do with them.

1985-GMC, I did get Cheyenne30's and 6 359. The pics were just from another thread of his.

jbclassix 01-11-2011 04:14 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
Did you happen to measure the 88+ Chevy rims? Mine are burried right now so I cannot measure them, but when I got a flat on my 91 Square Sub, I measured them at 4"back 2.5"front.

1985-GMC 01-11-2011 11:04 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dieselwrencher (Post 4402608)
1985-GMC, I did get Cheyenne30's and 6 359. The pics were just from another thread of his.

Oh nice, that will be really cool on there!

Dieselwrencher 01-12-2011 12:26 AM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jbclassix (Post 4402630)
Did you happen to measure the 88+ Chevy rims? Mine are burried right now so I cannot measure them, but when I got a flat on my 91 Square Sub, I measured them at 4"back 2.5"front.

No I haven't. Mine are buried as well.

Dieselwrencher 01-16-2011 04:13 AM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
No progress yet, but I did manage to get some new to me parts. I purchased a front seat from a 2004 dodge, I got a vacuum pump for the engine, I received my new billet emblems, found 2 almost new tires to match the ones on the rear, and got a box of A/C stuff for my friend Mathew. Pics will be coming tomorrow.

jbclassix 01-16-2011 11:55 AM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
New-to-me parts are the best! What are you using the vacuum pump for? I had a belt driven vacuum pump on my 96 6.5L to run the waste gate and a cam driven one on the 84 6.2L to run the A/C vacuum solenoids... I'm perplexed!

Dieselwrencher 01-17-2011 05:53 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jbclassix (Post 4415237)
New-to-me parts are the best! What are you using the vacuum pump for? I had a belt driven vacuum pump on my 96 6.5L to run the waste gate and a cam driven one on the 84 6.2L to run the A/C vacuum solenoids... I'm perplexed!

The vacuum pump drives the power steering pump, and I will be keeping the vacuum assist brakes for now. I haven't made up my mind if I want to do hydraboost yet or not. Pics soon, I haven't had a chance to mess with this stuff. We have been trying to finish up a rebuild on a 07 Dodge. What fun. :lol:

nickp51chevy 01-18-2011 12:30 AM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
I dig those badges :metal:

Dieselwrencher 01-18-2011 05:15 AM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
Here are some pictures of some goodies. I had my wife start painting the new emblems. What do you think? They aren't finished yet.
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x...n/IMG_1793.jpg

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x...n/IMG_1794.jpg

Here is a pic of the turbo I scored on craigslist. I'm thinking it will go on the Longhorn once I find a different exhaust housing for it.
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x...n/IMG_1789.jpg

I also scored a pretty big turbo on ebay tonight and might use this for a primary in towing twins. I'll get pics of it once I get it home.

coggonobrien 01-18-2011 05:46 AM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
badges look amazing, what di dshe use for primer/paint?

watahyahknow 01-18-2011 06:24 AM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
i had to paint some nametags a while back wat they did was wash them in thinner put them down flat still wet and touch the thinner residue in the deep part of the letter with a small modelbrush loaded with paint it filled the letter right up to the edge realy fast like an oilslick intoo al the knooks and crannies , it takes a while longer to dry though
think they used enamel paint

chevy_man5 01-18-2011 09:07 AM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
I haven't looked through your build in a while. Nice job on the emblems!! Looks like the build is making progress!!

Dieselwrencher 01-18-2011 12:41 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
Thanks guys. The paint on the emblems is model car paint. I want to make sure I like them painted or not so I figured the model paint would be easy to get off if I change my mind.

Chevymaniac 01-18-2011 07:59 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
Here is a pic of the turbo I scored on craigslist. I'm thinking it will go on the Longhorn once I find a different exhaust housing for it.
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x...n/IMG_1789.jpg

I also scored a pretty big turbo on ebay tonight and might use this for a primary in towing twins. I'll get pics of it once I get it home.[/QUOTE]

wHERE WAS THE TURBO FROM AND WHAT DID IT COST YOU?

Dieselwrencher 01-18-2011 10:04 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chevymaniac (Post 4421550)
wHERE WAS THE TURBO FROM AND WHAT DID IT COST YOU?

I think it was from California and I got it for around $235 shipped I believe.

watahyahknow 01-18-2011 10:51 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
theres a guy floating around on ebay selling garrett t45 turbos pretty cheap , heared a lot of good about those turbos being used on gas powered cars on the turboforum i visit
they have some info on dieselturbos too btw if youre interested

Dieselwrencher 01-20-2011 04:10 AM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
Well the truck is in the shop and the parts are trickling in. I'm going to get this baby running yet! After looking through another thread, someone posted an engine rpm calculator. If anyone else would like to use it, here it is.
http://www.csgnetwork.com/multirpmcalc.html
I punched in my info, and I was happy with the results. We'll see later if they are very accurate. At 75mph my engine will only be turning 1894 rpm. That should make for some good mileage. I'm going to go look for more parts now. :lol:

propanemudtruck 01-20-2011 01:44 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
Sounds sweet! Not sure if I've seen, but what are your exhaust plans for this? I'm thinking the truck would deserve stacks for sure.:burnout:

1985-GMC 01-20-2011 04:28 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
Unless its a hood stack on a sled truck, stacks on a pickup is just retarded.

Dieselwrencher 01-20-2011 04:59 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1985-GMC (Post 4425893)
Unless its a hood stack on a sled truck, stacks on a pickup is just retarded.

That's your opinion. It's almost like me saying everyone from Texas sleeps with their sister. :lol: I like stacks on cetrtain trucks. This one won't be getting them at this time. I'm planning on 4" or 5" out behind the right rear tire.

1985-GMC 01-20-2011 05:24 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dieselwrencher (Post 4425947)
That's your opinion. It's almost like me saying everyone from Texas sleeps with their sister. :lol: I like stacks on cetrtain trucks. This one won't be getting them at this time. I'm planning on 4" or 5" out behind the right rear tire.


Alright I'll give you that. I know I've seen pickups that look good with stacks I just prefer the pipes to out to the back of the truck.

watahyahknow 01-20-2011 08:46 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
i a tuned diesel these pipes get creazy hot so stacks are a good idea preventing burning some bikers leghair off when he stands too close to the truck , these guys dont apreciate those kindah things

rayfinseats 01-23-2011 01:39 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
Iowa?


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