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One expensive lesson we learned from installing a window three times, the tack strip that the owner bought was too thick for the headliner, and as a side effect cramped the glass going in. This also meant the upper window clips, which also serve to "position" the garnish molding, pushed the molding down far enough that the back side was visible through the glass. https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...y/IMG_2516.JPG In order to remedy that view through the glass, we need to fabricate new clips that allow the trim to position higher on the glass. We start with a set of dies for the Lennox so we can make a run of the needed shape, and then cut them individually to size. This should give us the best consistency on size. Our first set of dies will take a folded 90* shape and form it into a "U" shape. We used the Southbend "milling machine" to provide a relief for the long side flange of the clip. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/hM2p3GJ8hFc Additional reliefs and some roloc sander action and we have the lower die ready for the shortened clip. https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...y/IMG_3454.JPG Then our 3/8 end mill is brought in from the end to form a matching profile. https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...y/IMG_3453.JPG A piece of 1018 is welded onto the side to give us more "meat" to make the folding ramp, and then machined to clean up the weld. https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...y/IMG_3484.JPG https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...y/IMG_3485.JPG Using the pneumatic belt sander and a cone shaped die grinder we add the ramp to the upper die and then run a profile through.. https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...y/IMG_3487.JPG https://www.youtube.com/shorts/W9BHwcKvH_g Our next set of dies for the wrap around fold.... https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...y/IMG_3495.JPG https://www.youtube.com/shorts/0uDZveTZBzY Clips cut to length and mounting holes drilled https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...y/IMG_3513.JPG Next on the list was to install the new wiper washer nozzles on my daily, since the old ones couldn't stand the heat under the hood with a turbo. The barb fitting had broken free of the nozzle and we no longer had windshield cleaning service. Upon removal, I found that one of the barb couplings had disintegrated as well. And here we were one hour after the auto parts stores had closed. Here's a still intact sample: https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...y/IMG_3528.JPG Since we had some stainless brake line left over from the wagon, lets make some lemonade... https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...y/IMG_3530.JPG https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...y/IMG_3531.JPG https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...y/IMG_3539.JPG Back in business.. And the artist has made some progress on the Lennox.... https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...y/IMG_3540.JPG |
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Update on the Kent bike seat, we have a good fit and now it's off to the upholstery shop..
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So I've been rather lax on the updates as we've had a distraction here at the shop. Someone had a mishap in returning home on Memorial day (about midnight) from one of the local watering holes. Let's call him "Dale Jr"
https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...y/IMG_3313.JPG Seems he was coming in a bit hot in the final turn where his left tires were out in the grass in the opposite lane.. https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...y/IMG_3325.JPG Which, when combined with over-correction.... https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...y/IMG_3328.JPG https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...y/IMG_3323.JPG https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...y/IMG_3315.JPG https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...y/IMG_3319.JPG Here, I guess not wanting to go a lap down, he took the nearest path back to the "track", completely ignoring pit road to his right.... https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...y/IMG_3321.JPG The remnants left behind suggested the drivers window broke out, likely when this gem flew out of the vehicle... https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...EAF23940B.jpeg So we've been rebuilding from that the past few weeks in spare time, pre-painting pickets to limit June/July sun exposure..... https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...38BF9FCE2.jpeg https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...97FBCBC20.jpeg https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...y/IMG_3576.JPG and we finished off here yesterday around noon... https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...9EE2931E6.jpeg Still have one more coat of paint to apply, but this will hold it until cooler days or the next mishap at the track.. |
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Dang!!!
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With fence repair duties out of the way we can get back to some progress on the wagon. Finally got the correct clips for the beltline molding...
https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...y/IMG_3716.JPG https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...y/IMG_3717.JPG https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...y/IMG_3718.JPG We had been attempting to polish up some of the stainless trim but always seems to find 67 years worth of scratches difficult to remove. So we opted to give Trizact a try, starting with 1500, then 3000, 5000, and finally 8000.. The edge of the 3000 and up seemed to bear the brunt of the polishing duties, and wore off much sooner than the center. In an effort to get more life out of the trizact pads, we purchased a 5" Dynabrade where we could cut the outer (worn) portion off the pads and continue to use.. The Trizact did well on the stainless, a much easier task at the polishing stage... https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...y/IMG_3557.JPG https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...y/IMG_3558.JPG https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...y/IMG_3564.JPG https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...y/IMG_3568.JPG https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...y/IMG_3636.JPG https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...y/IMG_3635.JPG We also have been working on the wiring, and getting it run inside some protective loom. To keep things tidy and knot free, we opted for some heat shrink tubing spaced at regular intervals.. Where I've seen electrical tape used in similar situations, the tape seems to turn into a sticky mess in short order so we'll give this a try. Jared has some re-wiring to do on his 39 coupe so this is good practice (learning curve) for him.. This section is from the fuse box to the rear of the body, the tan wire pulled out is for the fuel sending unit. https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...y/IMG_3650.JPG https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...y/IMG_3654.JPG https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...y/IMG_3655.JPG https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...y/IMG_3656.JPG These clips are just about the right size for this harness "portion", we got them to run along the frame rail behind the rear axle, but found use for them in a couple other locations. Corvette part. https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...y/IMG_3657.JPG https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...y/IMG_3676.JPG https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...y/IMG_3712.JPG Here Jared made a protective channel where the wire passes under the rear seat frame. https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...y/IMG_3713.JPG |
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Heat shrink vs sticky tape....great idea..!!!
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I've been watching this from the side line for quite awhile now. Awestruck by the quality of the work I never thought that I would be able to contribute. Today is different. Here are some harness tapes I have used without issue over the years.
The first link is what I use on motorcycles. The 2nd link is what I use for interior wiring harnesses or if I need to match a factory GM harness. https://revivalcycles.com/products/t...c-harness-tape https://www.americanautowire.com/shop/harness-tape Thank you for all the knowledge you have shared. |
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Thanks for adding those resources, good to have..
More progress on the wagon, we're getting some of our wiring run to the back of the car... https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...y/IMG_3821.JPG In cutting out door panels our upholsterer cut out the speakers a bit too large for how we were mounting them. I don't think I had conveyed those details as I had planned on doing the speaker cutouts portion.. So to keep him from having to do that work over again, we offered to cut them out this time around. https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...y/IMG_3894.JPG 6-32 Riv-nuts used to hold the tweeter grill in place... https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...y/IMG_3897.JPG https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...y/IMG_3905.JPG https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...y/IMG_3906.JPG 8-32 machine screws were sharpened to transfer the hole pattern onto the panel, then our speaker spacers matched to those for cutting out the center hole. https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...y/IMG_3975.JPG https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...y/IMG_3974.JPG https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...y/IMG_3969.JPG https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...y/IMG_3972.JPG Next, holes drilled for our stainless trim that we had welded the impaling pins on prior.... https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...y/IMG_4017.JPG https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...y/IMG_4008.JPG The stainless trim would be needed for upholstery, so we got to polishing.. A board was drilled to accept the impaling pins and better hold the trim piece for our prep stage of removing 67 years worth of scratches. Also worked well in holding things steady at the buffer.. https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...y/IMG_4055.JPG https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...y/IMG_4056.JPG We used 3M Trizact on the DA, starting with 1500 grit and finishing with 8000 grit. This process cuts out the first two buffing stages, and seems to polish out nicer. Buffing process was using green rouge on sewn wheel and final was grey rouge on loose wheel. https://youtu.be/REH9gLXxaco This is after 3000 Trizact: https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...)_IMG_4062.JPG This is after 8000 Trizact: https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...)_IMG_4064.JPG This is after buffing: https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...MG_4068(1).JPG That'll do pig, that'll do. |
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I spent a week in Tennessee just south of Nashville, attending a metalshaping workshop and delivering the Pullmax there for Mike Abbott of Steel Rose Metal Co in Memphis TN. We had a good time learning tips and tricks, meeting old friends and making new ones.
Jesse Harris, who lives about 15 minutes from me, travelled out as well, and gave an awesome demo on using the bead roller with a focus on artwork. https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...y/IMG_4212.JPG https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...y/IMG_4213.JPG A leading demo on an aluminum Rolls Royce door... https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...y/IMG_4230.JPG One of the attendees lives just north of Nashville, and a few of us travelled one evening to check out his shop, Ace Chassis. He has been building pulling tractors for about 20 years now and has quite the setup for machining, welding, and sheet metal fabrication. https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...y/IMG_4223.JPG Upon return from TN, Jared brought over his 39 Ford so we could install a new wiring harness in place of the convoluted mess that was there. https://youtu.be/SpXH3K4BGXM He had some issues and a local fella that wires boats or something had made some repairs. This is his mainstay, I'd never seen the stuff and now having seen his work, I have my doubts about anyone who would use it on a regular basis. https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...y/ESCD4280.JPG Here's some before pictures to highlight both his repairs and what was done before he got there. For some reason he decided that two separate runs of 12V power from the same source needed a resettable circuit breaker between them. https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...y/JMXX9067.JPG Personally, I'm confused. But that's not the half of it. This is a "ground" cable that was attached to the frame. https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...y/IMG_4305.JPG under the dash... https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag.../IMG_4294A.jpg This is in the passenger front floor area, there is a fusebox in there somewhere.. https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...y/IMG_4293.JPG The battery was located behind the passenger seat, and here is the cable routing beneath the car... https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...y/IMG_4291.JPG Yes, that's the positive battery cable against the muffler..... https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...y/IMG_4292.JPG With all this we found our best option was to remove the battery and start cutting out ALL the wiring. https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...y/IMG_4306.JPG First order of business was to fabricate a mounting plate for the new fuse panel to get it out of the floor... https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...y/IMG_4311.JPG Having removed the most splices I have ever seen under a dash board, our goal was to have as few splices as possible, and make direct runs where we could. W crimps were used throughout, adding glue lined heat shrink in place of the previously favored liquid tape.. Tail light wiring was plenty long so new contact buttons eliminated the typical splicing of pigtails.. https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...y/IMG_4316.JPG Tach and Speedometer connected... https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...y/IMG_4345.JPG Headlight switch... https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...y/IMG_4326.JPG For routing purposes, and to keep from drilling the firewall, we made some cable management using rare earth magnets and cable saddles.. https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...y/IMG_4297.JPG https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...y/IMG_4334.JPG more to come...... |
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Looking great! love the idea of wire management using magnets. I have had problems in supporting wire cradles with 3m tape so I think magnets might be the perfect idea. Out of curiosity what material did you use for the door panels. I was looking for something like that for my project.
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On the wagon we used an ABS ? plastic, the upholsterer usually does the press board but we've all seen how they look years later when they get damp. Keeping my fingers crossed with these..
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That wiring was terrible, and dangerous, but that frame ground wire takes the cake. It puzzled me at first, but then it came to me. He has heard the term "ground loop" and must have thought it meant something like that. Glad you fixed that wiring before the car burned up. Also, that pulling tractor looks beautiful. I watch tractor pulling on TV and I will watch to see if I see it.
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Ace Chassis is the name of his company, he has tractors in about seven different countries.
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Progress on the 39's wiring, let's show this with a before and after sequence..
This car has the battery mounted behind the passenger seat, and the orange cable shown is the positive cable. (ground cable hidden above muffler) Both cables exit directly above muffler with not quite enough room for a good bend radius, as shown by the melted insulation. https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...y/IMG_4292.JPG The other hoses shown are the heat and AC lines as that is also located behind the driver's seat. We relocated the battery cable entry points to in front of the muffler. The heat and AC lines were re-dressed and loop clamped to get them farther away from the muffler.. Rubber plugs were used to fill the old holes. https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...y/IMG_4442.JPG https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...y/IMG_4441.JPG This is the previous location of the fuse box (it's in there someplace) https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...y/IMG_4293.JPG With the fuse box relocated under the dash, the floor area is cleared up with less chance of stepping on wires. The radio and antenna cabling will be routed into the glove box, the radio location. https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...y/IMG_4428.JPG Previous underdash: https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...y/IMG_4294.JPG Fabricated plate for mounting fuse box up under the dash.. https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...y/IMG_4311.JPG https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...y/IMG_4430.JPG Steering knuckle sleeve weld... https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...y/IMG_4378.JPG Despite grinding out the mud dauber's nest and wiping multiple times with acetone, we still got a pin hole in the weld. To limit damage (shrinking) from excessive heat we left it with the pin hole. Still much better than what was there prior. https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...y/IMG_4411.JPG The links for the front sway bar as well as the radius arms had little left for bushings. The local auto parts store was not much help for replacement parts, so some delrin round stock was used to fabricate bushings. https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...y/IMG_4393.JPG https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...y/IMG_4408.JPG https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...y/IMG_4410.JPG The tag light insulator was hard plastic and brittle, so our attempts to install a longer wire for the light resulted in a broken insulator. More delrin to the rescue.. https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...y/IMG_4339.JPG https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...y/IMG_4340.JPG https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...y/IMG_4343.JPG Left to do is the front end/engine compartment and re-assembly. |
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A recent find of some metalshaping tools, finally found a stake plate and stake anvils... Along with some dolly's I didn't have..
https://youtu.be/p2Hr-YZL448 The wiring harness installed, here's our first test start of the 39.... https://youtu.be/MfxF8fu39s4 Lighting tests: https://youtu.be/rF4uwzYycLs https://www.youtube.com/shorts/bBfAGzQnuL8 With that, the 39 has left the building... Here's the test drive taking it home. Also found out the easy way of opening the ash tray... https://youtu.be/QkSSQfQtnmk |
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If you have a free minute or three. I noticed your door skin removal tool and decided I need make one.
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We've all seen the rusted out floor pans in old cars with a sign screwed or pop riveted in place to keep your feet from falling through. As a first for me, now I've repaired one of those signs. We needed to make some dies for the Lennox to produce the "picture frame" border...
https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...HYs13tfVpj.JPG https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jHXHTfZsG0 https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...y/IMG_5139.JPG https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...7eqHqyNmMN.JPG https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...y/IMG_5138.JPG https://www.youtube.com/shorts/lwfCSv58raE The owner plans on using panel adhesive to attach, in order to save as much of the original paint as possible. We made some splice plates for the back side to use with the panel adhesive. He has an artist lined up to re-create the bottom portion. |
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The hinge covers for the wagon is one of the many loose ends we have left to address, quite a bit of rust...
https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...y/IMG_5163.JPG A quick test fit before we go off fabricating anything shows these factory original parts are no better than many of the reproduction parts you get today.. I had planned on fabrication work, didn't know we needed a redesign. https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...y/IMG_5168.JPG https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...y/IMG_5169.JPG https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...y/IMG_5171.JPG We ordered a piece of round stock to match the radius to use on the Magnetic brake, that should arrive Tuesday. Next, we need to fold a hem for our stainless edge trim we plan on using for the ribbed stainless dash insert. The magnetic brake leaves a bit to be desired in having balls enough to hem a short return flange, so we packed up our sheet metal strips we had cut to size and went to another local metalshaper's shop to make use of his apron brake. https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...y/IMG_5177.JPG https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...y/IMG_5176.JPG A piece of .030 aluminum acted as a spacer to maintain our hem gap. The brake worked well but the parts needed a bit more flatness to provide nice crisp details. Since he also had a powered Mittler Bros. bead roller, we used some flat dies and ran through all the bent pieces. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/hrFMqEeRhAw test fit of the ribbed stainless.... https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...y/IMG_5181.JPG https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...y/IMG_5182.JPG And for a teaser of how it will look after polishing.... https://www.youtube.com/shorts/GfqiYbIZYvo |
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Great work...Jim
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Thanks Jim!
We had a customer bring in a "Patent Idea Display". This had a battery pack inside that powered the headlights (headlight bezels not shown) and featured a rod down the bottom that would oscillate the left headlight, and I believe would flash that headlight as well (based on linkage tied to a relay inside). The control switch is actually the left half of a Model T instrument cluster. https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...y/IMG_4085.JPG https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...y/IMG_4086.JPG https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...y/IMG_5152.JPG https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...y/IMG_5149.JPG It has obviously had parts (hood) that went missing over the years and an aluminum flashing replacement had been added. He wanted a hood fabricated that looked more period correct, so we offered to do louvers and a faux hinge at the top. For the hood we used 19 gauge AKDQ, and for the louvers we are using the Diacro press brake. The louver dies weren't tall enough for the Diacro, so an adapter was used at the top to make up the difference. https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...y/IMG_4651.JPG Our practice punches worked fine, but the machine did not have enough depth to the vertical supports of the press brake for the size of our hood. We would need to get sketchy. Real sketchy. With only about half of each die in the machine, and two set screws holding on for dear life.... https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...y/IMG_4746.JPG https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...y/IMG_4748.JPG https://youtu.be/2ktrqMyY2VQ https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...y/IMG_4753.JPG With louvers punched, we used the highly technical argon bottle radius brake to add our hoop. next on the list was to make our hinge using a piece of 1/4" stainless tubing. https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...y/IMG_4833.JPG https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...y/IMG_4844.JPG https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...y/IMG_4843.JPG Next, our hood needs the beltline bead to match cars of the era, and to simulate the hidden hinges for the hood sides. https://youtu.be/Vm47BL7zQ8g Our "hinge" was plug welded in place... https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...y/IMG_5121.JPG https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...y/IMG_5122.JPG Media blasted for better paint adhesion, and ready for delivery.. https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...y/IMG_5124.JPG https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...y/IMG_5125.JPG |
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that is cool as all heck..!!!!!...nice work.!!
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Great Job again.
You have the best ideas and designs.:metal: |
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