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Super . Thanks . I will have to take a peek when I have some time . His thread is getting huge now . A really cool build for sure .

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The truck really looks good! Yeah, you these things move a lot of water in the cooling system for sure! Are you wanting to put a filter straight on the turbo, or do you need a pipe to get it away from the turbo and have the filter away from the engine?

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Hey thanks . Yours is comming along nicely as well. Its nice once they start to look like trucks again ! I had a afe on order from summitt but it seems its on back order . going to call tonite and swich to a spectra that they say they have in stock. Maby order a fan at same time . cooling well now , even with a ratty old rad but i know once i find some traffic it will get hot eventually. hows the Excursion coming ? Thats my dream kiddie hauler as well.

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Excursion is coming along. Ran into some issues trying to get the rear end set up. It is also missing some a/c wiring harness, and that has been a real PITA to locate. I'm trying to get the a/c lines figured out, got the trans shift cable figured out. Just have to get more time. :lol:

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My 1 st prob so far. Clutch linkage started to bend where it pushes in the dodge master for the clutch. Once it tweaked a few deg the push was not straight this bent the rod where it goes into the master . I guess i know what Im up to tomorrow nite !

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Mine is a factory electric motor from a 58 GMC, I think they came standard with electric motors. linkage to the wiper transmissions is the same, it bolts up the same. Make sure you get the switch assembly too, it is a cable deal that actuates a slide electrical contactor on the motor.

Before I found that I used the motor out of a 62 pickup and fabricated the mount so it would work. Also had to modify the length of the arms to the transmissions. Think I used the switch assy out of the truck too.

There are threads on adapting rear door wiper motors. Not difficult once you figure out the geometry.

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It tends to get off topic at times and I like to give lots of detail. I have the pics and other information on my computer organized by sub systems so I can find them.

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I did not know there were factory electric ones. I will have to look into that .

Thanks again .

Hows your truck coming along ? havent checked in i a while

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back at it, honey-dos and a wedding got in the way.
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Had a very good wknd. I had a fabed bumber from bak in the day on the shop floor .

It was off a fleetside truck so some tweaking was required . got that done and installed. nothing trick but the truck needed a bumper and this one looks period correct. Did something else under the bak of the truck , going to post some pics and see who picks up on it . I think youll be on it it abt a second ryan ... Lol. Going to the exh shop on the wknd. Coming along nicely .

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What, no pics yet? :lol:

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Nope no pics yet . you will like this tho . My box was here from summit tonite .

I took the spectra filter out and the inner cone was broke loose in the outer cone . Imagine if i didnt notice and my turbo fount it !! Good news was the guy from summitt was super . They are sending me a AFE now . Other than that i just installed my shift boots and puttered a bit . Going to post pics asap so I can see if you have been paying attention Ryan . Lol

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:lol: Waiting. :lol: My wife says I don't so we shall see.

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I'm ready to see those caps mounted! Where did you get those shocks? We met some folks from Canada on our Honeymoon. One was from Montreal and one was from Vancouver. I can say the Vancouver one wasn't as friendly as you have been!

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So i have been joking around telling everyone I wanted to see who was on the ball and could spot the change I made to the rear of the truck after one member , oh hell ryan spotted sumtin I did wrong . So here are the pics .

This is my new rear bumper I got at Bills truck parts . Not perfect but it works well with the old work truck theme I had in mind when I started building this old girl. And i have a hitch now.

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No another cool note we went to a buddys place for the long wknd and a friend brought up his toy. Real Cool . We were rippen around in the mid 80's. This thing is loose ! I have gone just under twice as fast as this thing goes . But this deffinately qualified as the loosest ride Ive been on , Period !

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Oops for got the pic .:lol:

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Heck yes that Jet boat is sweet!!!! Your bumber looks great, and good job on the shocks. Looks mucho better! :lol:

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I knew it wouldent take you long to spot the shocks ! Your truck is looken sweet . That boat wasent a jet ! 30% over drive 1 gear ! no rev . Revin abt 6200 with the jackshaft between the idiots , I mean passangers and the trans rite at your feet !!!

It was a killer ride . One that I dont know if I need to do again , if you know what I mean !!!

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:lol: Yeah, it sounds like a trip for sure!!

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I have been wondering about driving down to Bills Truck Shop to check it out.
What is your opinion? Is it as good as it sounds?

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Bill and Rob are real cool guys to deal with . You need to keep in mind he moved in to a industrial building so there isn't much of a yard to poke around in . I think the business was at his house before . Older pics on his website show all kinds of cool stuff in the yard .

Still worth the trip if you need something tho. If you just looking to walk around I'd wate till I had a shopping list.

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I bet that boat is a blast to drive! What kind of engine is that? Looks like a backwards big block Chevy?

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Yep its a blast ! My ears are still ringing ! Ever sat infront of a bbc at 6000rpm with open dry headers ! Yikes . On the flip side it's funny the thing will do 55 all day at abt 3200 and just hum along . Even 55 is fast by everyday boat standards.

Hows your truck doing? Im going to p u my speedo extension from napa tomorrow . Will see how that works . I did a diy fe allignment the other day . Not perfect , I think I toed it in a bit too much , but it drives a lot better now .

You ever thought abt movin your thread over to the diesel conversion section ? Seems there is a lot more for me or us over there . Not too sure how you do or if you can do that .

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So I got my speedo working now. I got a cable extension just as Orrie did . worked sweet. It reads abt 10 mph slow. I have a adapter that gears up by %13 so I will install that as well that should get me real close to where I need to b.

I will post the p n for you if you like Luther . Got it at NAPA,

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Awesome! Can't wait to see the pics! Did you just remove the electric part?
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Hi Luther

Yep just ditched the electric thing . When I un did it there was just a normal 7/8 speedo cable end under it .

I went to Napa and got a 30 in extension cable

Pn 615-1618

Worked good .

My speedo is abt 10 mph slow . Your speed may be closer with the 36's

As the truck is actually going faster than it will say it is . I have this cool little adaptor that goes inline and speeds things up by 13% but it needs small keyed speedo cable parts that im missing . I guess I will have to hunt around to see what else i can find .


Im driving the truck lots tho . A new steering box is next on the things to do list . Just got to do some shoppong for one I can afford . :waah:

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So I have a up date. After a super summer cruzen aroud in the old truck I m so glad
I did this swap. It still needs lots of little tweaks but these old trucks always do . It never needs fuel it just keeps going and going I took it to the local truck pull last nite . The truck weighed in at 5275 lbs with me in it . The guys at the track said because it was a diesel truck I had to run in the 6500 to 8500 lb class. I was a a disadvantage to say the least . The average truck was a common rail cummins or a turned up d max . All running nice beefy tires and weighted up to be just under 8500lbs The winner pulled 277 ft . When the dust settelled the old gmc still pulled off a 187 with a top speed of 13 mph lol. Not bad for her first pull with a almost bald set of good year wranglers . I may have been able to muster a few more feet but I had to pedal it a few times as the front axle was wheel hopping badly. Once it found it's groove I was able to keep it pinned till we came to a hault at 187 . This winter will be all abt the tweaks . I cant wate till next year . We actually have 3 pulls within half a hour of home . Looking forward to some fun !

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That is pretty awesome! What gear did you run in when you pulled? I have never pulled. kinda wonderin the technique. I was talking with someone last night about taking my truck to some pulls in southern middle TN.
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That depends on power you think you have, the gears you have, and tire size. I'm not sure what you have done to your engine but I would probably run 2nd gear if you have taller gears and taller tires. Otherwise 3rd gear but that will take more slipping and you can warp/fry a single disc clutch easlily starting the sled. And of course LOW side.

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Weight isn't always your friend. It's more about transfer of said weight and your hitch design. I know my old 88 Chevy CCLB DRW weighed in at 6800 and I usually pulled that, my 96 Dodge, and my little brothers F350 ECLB DRW all at 7200 pounds.

Granted our friends 2.6 truck weighs in at 5700 lbs and he hangs enough to be barely shy of 8000#. He also has a purpose built hitch and weight box.

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So that is in 2 hi? My truck is 3.54s and 37" tires with just the pump turned up. I don't think my truck could pull the 180' or so that the 56 6bt pulled. He has the non intercooled first gen with the bigger stock injectors.

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Hi Luther. I pulled in low range 2nd gear . It was just rite to get moving Im glad I had a little spin at first to get the thing spooled up . Once I got into it it was on the stock rev limiter , 2200 ??? all the way . Once the weight moved up the sled it parked me in a hurry. Pulled the rev's down a bit but promptly broke traction. I think with the fuel pin and govinor spring installed it would be just rite . I had them in the glove box but they didnt seem to do much :lol: Im trying to get the vid on here but my wifes phone dosent seem to be able to make it happen .

I have the same eng you did at first. 92 inercooled . I ditched the inercooler on install tho due to fitment . I dont have to tell you how tight these engines fit tho !

Does anyone know how, or if I can move my thread to the diesel swaps section ? I seem to spend all my time there now seeing what everyone is up to .

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LOW side, you don't have the 1300HP it'd take to succesfully run 2nd High. If you put smaller tires on it would help a lot for pulling but that is a pita. And all 1st gen Dodge Engines started off as 160HP. Launch is the biggest determiner of how far you will go in all honesty.

As far as gear ratio goes, NV4500 gear selection from low to high:

2nd Low
3rd Low
2nd High
4 Low

You have to get one of the admin or mods to move the thread.

As far as rpm you are right about the defuel point, but the GSK will help along with the Fuel Pin.

I know on my 1988 Chevy I just had a set of "90HP" injectors, HX35, and single sceramic disc clutch and it owuld get 250-310ft back in the day. It was also a non IC ag VE setup.

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"I had them in the glove box but they didn't seem to help" LMAO! That's hilarious! I'm glad you had fun! Yes, the tires and gears weren't your friend on the pulling track. But at least you tried it!!!

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Hi guys . Ya the pull was a riot . I will get some new rubber this winter and turn up the fuel a bit and have some fun next year for sure . I bet those parts are real effective when you actually install them in the pump . Lol. Rite now my weak link is the coupler between the t c and the trans . The teeth on it are quite sharp . On it way out for sure . I went for a tour this wknd to a old local marina and snapped a few pics . Think they look kinda cool .

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It looks awesome man!!! I think PATC might sell the coupler but I'll have to recheck that.

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it certainly does look cool! i think, but dont quote me, that there are a few places around that you can get a hardened beefcake version of the spud coupler.

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Hi guys . Thanks for the replies . I asked abt the coupler a while ago and a ton of people replied with links and such. Thats deffinately on my to do list . The shafts look like new but I dont need to spin it as im certan they would not look new after that . Im looking forward to getting my 70's hub cabs painted up and installed as well. I think they will really suit the old girl. Thanks again for the comments .