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chevy_man5 04-15-2012 11:00 PM

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Didn't mess with the dipstick, but did get the clutch slave in, and got to take it for a drive! It was only down to the end of my road and back, but she was totally under her own power the whole way.

It was shuddering any time I accelerated, so I think it is either timing, or the clutch. It seemed to idle fine, and if I kept the clutch in, it ran smooth, but the second I started letting it out, it started shuddering.

After getting it back into the garage, I backed it out again, and took a hose to her, so every time we look at it, we don't end up getting dirty. She looks pretty sitting out in the sun!

chevy_man5 04-15-2012 11:01 PM

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Not going to get very far with that gas tank though!! LOL

1985-GMC 04-15-2012 11:38 PM

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Haha sounds like fun! We did almost exactly the same thing with my dads 70 C20 after we pulled the bed off (except no front fenders and 5 gallon buckets to sit on), we drove it down to the car wash to clean everything we could now get to.

duallyjams 04-16-2012 07:15 AM

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I don't see anything wrong with the redneck fuel delivery system looks normal to me :lol:

chevy_man5 04-16-2012 09:41 AM

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I don't see anything wrong with the redneck fuel delivery system looks normal to me :lol:

I told my son as I was zip tying the fuel line in there, that I had to redneck it together. He just laughed. :lol:

Corts60 04-16-2012 12:35 PM

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When I first got my 'burb running, I drove with a tank like that for a week.:lol:

chevy_man5 04-19-2012 11:37 AM

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I am lining up someone with a timing light... or I'll just go buy another one of my own. (mine is a war prize for the ex) I have looked through numerous threads on here, and anywhere else I can find information, and can't seem to come up with what I need to know.

According to the service manual, the timing is supposed to be set to 5 degrees. According to the timing (pulley?/disk?) on the crank, that would be the dot in between the two lines in the picture. If the letters are not visible in the picture, it says from the top down U - D - C - 1 - 10.

I have read many threads about the 305's and no one really seems to say where their timing is set at. I don't currently know where mine is at, until I get the light.

Any suggestions on where to set it, and is there any special procedures to follow with this engine?

I have the Holley 500 carb, and Pertronix ignition, if that affects anything.

McMurphy 04-19-2012 03:54 PM

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I always set mine with a vacuum meter instead of a timing light.
With a "T" connect the meter between the carb and the vacuum advance, then dial your distributor in to where you have the strongest vacuum.

This is after making sure your carb is dialed in, of course.
Not sure what your altitude is there in Idaho where you live, but in Spokane we are between 1800 at the base of the falls to 2200 at the top of the South Hill, not that a couple hundred feet will make much difference, but a thousand or more does.

Anyone that has driven to Mt Rushmore, or Crater Lake (Oregon) knows how bad your car will run up in those spots.

Not sure if that helps you any sir, but its a fun story and I like telling it :lol:

chevy_man5 04-19-2012 04:03 PM

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Nampa is 2500ft. I had to look it up. LOL

Thanks!! Now I need to see if anyone has a vacuum meter lying around too.

McMurphy 04-19-2012 06:02 PM

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I learned about the vacumm guage trick from an old motorhead, they are not very expensive to buy $20-$30 if I remember correctly.

The trouble was I kept trying to set my timing by the book and the engine was running like crap. Once I dialed it in with the vacuum, it ran like a champ.

Good luck, hope this works better for you!!

chevy_man5 04-19-2012 09:19 PM

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Thanks again McMurphy!

chevy_man5 04-29-2012 11:23 PM

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My son and I worked on fine tuning the carb, and the timing.

Here is a couple of videos of her 3rd trip down the street and back. Still needs some more adjustments to the timing, and or the carb. Still not much power. Better each time though.

The brakes are still very soft. Have to pump them several times to get any noticeable results. They stop the truck, just not very well.





Dub_X 05-23-2012 10:08 AM

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Jason,

we need updates on the beast!

chevy_man5 05-23-2012 12:59 PM

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Nothing to update on!! LOL

My brother is being re-stationed to Hawaii, so we have been trying to hang out as much as possible lately, and been building some garden boxes (see below), so I can have some fresh veggies this year.

The poor beast is just sitting there patiently waiting for me.

I think I may have at least a partial solution to my brakes being soft. I haven't adjusted the shoes back out, after taking them apart to clean them out, so I am hoping that is the problem with them. Probably going to mess with that this weekend. Cross your fingers!

I have a friend who has access to all kinds of new, scrap, automotive wire, and is accumulating the colors and sizes I need to re-wire the truck, so hopefully will be getting on that in the near future too! As she sits right now, the only wiring in there is some under the dash, and the bare basics to start and run. No signals, or lights anywhere have any wire at this point.

Dub_X 05-23-2012 01:18 PM

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Well at least you admit there's nothing to update on lmao. Post some updates when you do lol.

McMurphy 05-24-2012 12:24 AM

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Wife and I were posted to Hawaii for 3 years, we loved it; but man the time went soooooo fast!
We are accustomed to 4 seasons and in Hawaii they dont have that, to us it seemed like one super long summer, which is why when we were standing in the airport to leave we were like: What just happened???

cetacean6 05-24-2012 01:09 AM

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Where at in Hawaii? If he's army or navy and needs anything give him my info. If he's a marine he's on the other side of the island and I wouldn't be much help....
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chevy_man5 05-24-2012 09:21 AM

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He is excited to go, and pretty bummed at the same time. His 13yo. daughter has to stay here with her mom, but luckily he will be back on a pretty regular basis.

He sold his truck, and bought a motorcycle counting on the nice weather over there. LOL

He is in the Air Force, so will be at Hickam.

Cetacean6 thanks for the offer! Awesome CC you have! Nice score! When will you be back stateside?

cetacean6 05-24-2012 11:20 AM

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I work at Schofield Barracks, and know the area well. I'm planning a trip back to Wa in late July so I can tear down and dip/blast my cc.
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McMurphy 05-24-2012 11:22 PM

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My wife was at SFB while I was down at Tripler... we loved it over there and if we dont get Germany after this tour, then we are hoping to get back to Hawaii!!

chevy_man5 05-24-2012 11:31 PM

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McMurphy, You probably just want Hawaii to thaw the deep freeze in your bones! LOL :metal:

cetacean6 05-24-2012 11:42 PM

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At the risk oh hijacking this thread (sorry), did she happen to work at the clinic? I work in the lab at SB.
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chevy_man5 05-25-2012 09:43 AM

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Cetacean6, no problem. Nothing much happening on here at this time anyway! LOL

ABX131 05-28-2012 10:32 PM

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Did you ever figure out how original your 4x4 is. Like you I have a converted 2x4 to a 4x4 and it has been a fun project for my son and I...My running gear is from a mid 70's chevy 4x4 short box but I have had some minor issues with engine parts which push it into the 80's for donor parts. Your last post was from 2010...any updated pics or progress? I don't see too many 4x4's on this site.

chevy_man5 05-28-2012 10:50 PM

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ABX131, I posted a video of us taking it for a drive back on 4/29/12.

Mine is a factory 4x4. Although one of the PO's changed out the rear axle at some point.

You may have me confused with another thread.

I agree 4x4's are not too common on here, we need to band together! LOL

McMurphy 05-28-2012 10:52 PM

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At the risk oh hijacking this thread (sorry), did she happen to work at the clinic? I work in the lab at SB.
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So sir, she was a K9 MP at the time we were there.

chevy_man5 06-21-2012 11:12 AM

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Trying to do some cheap upgrades at this point, and had a couple of questions.

First question is, does anyone know of a rattle can paint that matches the original silver interior paint? I got a new to me gas tank for in the cab, and am working on cleaning the yellow/orange paint off of it, so I can paint it the correct color. I wanted to paint behind it too, so that part is basically done for now, and I can pretty much just leave it be, as I work on other things.

Secondly, The gasket on my master cylinder is almost totally solid. When bleeding the brakes, fluid is leaking out even with the lid screwed down. I would like to find a new one, or make one if needed. What material should be used for the gasket? While talking about the master cylinder, the bolt head for the lid is almost totally stripped. Can I use a regular bolt, or will the brake fluid cause problems?

With my luck, I would get the wrong type of gasket material, and or the wrong type of bolt, and the brake fluid would break down that material of either... or both of them, and ruin the system. LOL

Corts60 06-23-2012 07:25 PM

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You'll be fine with standard cork gasket material and any bolt that is the proper length and diameter. I think that bolt is a 1/4-20. There should be a little o-ring that goes on the bolt after you slide it through the lid. That keeps the bolt and lid together and makes things nice.

chevy_man5 06-23-2012 11:35 PM

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Thanks Cort!

KroAutomotiveInc 06-30-2012 04:01 AM

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check out my build thread brother just got a 1960 4x4 gmc that looks just like yours lol

chevy_man5 07-04-2012 05:54 PM

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Here are some pics of the transfer case and linkages. The transfer case shifter is on the right of the transmission shifter, instead of on the left like all of the other ones I am seeing on here.

I know this was discussed on the site somewhere, I just cannot find it anywhere.

66Gilbert asked for some pictures to see if he could identify what was going on.

chevy_man5 07-04-2012 05:56 PM

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A few more.

I guess scraping some grease off would make it easier to see.

66Gilbert 07-04-2012 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by chevy_man5 (Post 5469053)
Here are some pics of the transfer case and linkages. The transfer case shifter is on the right of the transmission shifter, instead of on the left like all of the other ones I am seeing on here.

I know this was discussed on the site somewhere, I just cannot find it anywhere.

66Gilbert asked for some pictures to see if he could identify what was going on.


Definitely a Rockwell T221 transfer case and all factory shift linkage. This is the first I have seen of a transfer case shift lever on the right side of the transmission shift stick. Possibly a Canadian built truck? Maybe someone else will chime in on this.

argonaut 07-05-2012 02:24 AM

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I"m pretty sure that all 60-61ish trucks had the transfer case shifter on the right, then after that they all went to the left. I thought I read this somewhere and it seems to be pretty consistent, although there is a lot of swapping in of later year parts, especially on these 4x4 work trucks.

chevy_man5 07-05-2012 09:37 AM

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Argonaut,

What started this was seeing KroAutomotiveInc's new 1960 GMC. His is on the left like most of the other ones I have seen.

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=532295

chevy_man5 07-05-2012 09:47 AM

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Definitely a Rockwell T221 transfer case and all factory shift linkage. This is the first I have seen of a transfer case shift lever on the right side of the transmission shift stick. Possibly a Canadian built truck? Maybe someone else will chime in on this.

According to the VIN, it was built in Pontiac, MI.

Kro, where was yours built?

When I took the trans hump off (page #4 post #98) it didn't appear to have ever been off, so who knows! LOL This truck is full of mysteries.

chevy_man5 07-05-2012 09:30 PM

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Yep, she is definitely Cape Blue!

Corts60 07-06-2012 10:34 AM

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Hey that's awesome, my suburban is cape blue as well!
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chevy_man5 07-06-2012 02:35 PM

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That's cool Cort!

I searched around on here, and no-one talked about a Cape Blue anything, from what I could find.

KroAutomotiveInc 07-10-2012 12:43 AM

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According to the VIN, it was built in Pontiac, MI.

Kro, where was yours built?

hey Jason mine was made in Pontiac, MI aswell


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