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Low Elco 07-29-2020 01:56 PM

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About your brakes- You might want to pull your master and booster apart and see if there's a gap between the rods. The one coming from the booster is adjustable and you want them to juuuuust touch at rest. I bet you have a small gap in there. Just went through this with my new build. Beater 4x4 looks great!

jimbosprint 08-04-2020 03:41 PM

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I don't have a lot to show for day 1 of Vintage Air install. I assembled the condenser and drier, but the "well nuts" provided do not fit through the factory holes in the core support. I really don't want to take the grill off just to make two holes slightly bigger.

Speaking of taking off parts to make holes... I thought I wouldn't have to take the inner fender off since the previous owner removed all the factory ac components. It turns out I will just to drill a few holes for installing the firewall plate. All the old rusty bolts for the inner fender came out except one, and it has me defeated for today. Too hot outside to continue.

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1971Stepside 08-04-2020 03:57 PM

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always has to be one bolt that won't cooperate...

Ol Blue K20 08-04-2020 04:13 PM

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I hear that it's hot there. I just watched the noon news. Keep plugging away at it your experience is gonna help me out.....lol..

NorCalC20LWB 08-04-2020 05:02 PM

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Jimbo, hate to say it but you're gonna have to take off at least the inner grill anyway. I'm finishing up the VA project now, and there was no way to put those aluminum lines through the core support with all their bends with the inner grill installed. Pretty quick taking it off, 8-10 screws maybe? I just dropped it down, did not remove it completely. The rubber well nuts were bigger than the holes in my core support also, just drilled the holes SLIGHTLY bigger.

Would also be hard to do this without dropping the inner fender, be easy to drill right through it when you make your drain hole later. I left the front vertical bolts installed loosely, no need to take the inner fender off completely unless you want to for some reason. See pic, it's just hanging there by the front bolts.

Also, quick tip, before you bolt in your AC unit in the cab run your wiring harness wires through the grommet in the firewall. It was kind of a PITA to get back behind the box and run the wires with the AC box in the way.

jimbosprint 08-04-2020 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by NorCalC20LWB (Post 8787100)
Jimbo, hate to say it but you're gonna have to take off at least the inner grill anyway. I'm finishing up the VA project now, and there was no way to put those aluminum lines through the core support with all their bends with the inner grill installed. Pretty quick taking it off, 8-10 screws maybe? I just dropped it down, did not remove it completely. The rubber well nuts were bigger than the holes in my core support also, just drilled the holes SLIGHTLY bigger.

Would also be hard to do this without dropping the inner fender, be easy to drill right through it when you make your drain hole later. I left the front vertical bolts installed loosely, no need to take the inner fender off completely unless you want to for some reason. See pic, it's just hanging there by the front bolts.

Also, quick tip, before you bolt in your AC unit in the cab run your wiring harness wires through the grommet in the firewall. It was kind of a PITA to get back behind the box and run the wires with the AC box in the way.

Thank you for the tips! Totally appreciated!

jimbosprint 08-04-2020 06:34 PM

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I got it. It took two pairs of vice grips and a lot of cursing, but I got it. The darn clip on nut behind one bolt was busted.

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jimbosprint 08-04-2020 11:03 PM

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My engineer friend helped me design a rear bumper in Solidworks. He is going to cut and form it at his work.

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Ol Blue K20 08-05-2020 09:04 AM

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That bumper looks pretty nice

jimbosprint 08-05-2020 06:46 PM

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I finished mounting the firewall plate this morning. The fresh air duct and the kick panel vent are sealed off too.

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jimbosprint 08-05-2020 06:48 PM

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I found the factory AC vents that were in a crate of parts the previous owner of the truck gave me. A quick wash and they were ready for the Vintage Air duct adapters and installation.

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jimbosprint 08-05-2020 06:50 PM

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Per the advice from NorCalC20LWB, I accepted my fate and tore the grill and bumper off the truck for access to install the condenser. I also ran the wiring through the firewall before the evaporator, which I assembled this morning.

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Ol Blue K20 08-06-2020 03:29 AM

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It's looking good, your making it look fairly simple too.

NorCalC20LWB 08-06-2020 10:47 AM

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Man, Jimbo, you do move right along, looking good! Good idea to take the whole grill off, couple of extra bolts but then you don't have to deal with the hassle of putting the grill insert screws/plastic nuts back in. Once you get the inner box in it's pretty much smooth sailing from there.

jimbosprint 08-06-2020 03:33 PM

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All I had time for today is the condenser hard lines, safety switch, and reassembly of the grill and bumper.

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Ol Blue K20 08-06-2020 05:39 PM

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The condenser and hard lines look clean. Were they prebent?

jimbosprint 08-06-2020 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Ol Blue K20 (Post 8788047)
The condenser and hard lines look clean. Were they prebent?

All the hard lines are pre-bent. The AC hose kit they sent is custom length, so I will have to have a shop make those for me. I would have preferred pre-made hoses, but that was not an option from the Pro Performance website where I bought the system.

NorCalC20LWB 08-07-2020 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by jimbosprint (Post 8788100)
All the hard lines are pre-bent. The AC hose kit they sent is custom length, so I will have to have a shop make those for me. I would have preferred pre-made hoses, but that was not an option from the Pro Performance website where I bought the system.

Your kit did not include pre made hoses? That's different from mine, everything came ready to install like the pic I posted above. I bought mine from MCB in the bay area, who advertises on this site, wonder if the kits vary by vendor?

jimbosprint 08-07-2020 02:22 PM

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I went to replace the crank pulley this morning and found an unexpected issue - the harmonic balancer crank bolt is missing. I can feel threads, but the hole was full of mud like it has been missing for a long time. I think I have to fix this.

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NorCalC20LWB 08-07-2020 03:20 PM

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Jimbo, I just finished my VA install and had it charged, you will like the results, ice cold! If your truck was a non AC cab, do you need this part? It's the bracket to connect the AC lines to the battery box. If you can use let me know and I'll get it in the mail. I didn't need it because mine is an AC cab.

jimbosprint 08-07-2020 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by NorCalC20LWB (Post 8788471)
Jimbo, I just finished my VA install and had it charged, you will like the results, ice cold! If your truck was a non AC cab, do you need this part? It's the bracket to connect the AC lines to the battery box. If you can use let me know and I'll get it in the mail. I didn't need it because mine is an AC cab.

Mine was an original AC truck and that part is left over from my install too. I found the original hard line bracket that I needed in a bucket of parts that the previous owner gave me. I appreciate the offer.

jimbosprint 08-07-2020 04:05 PM

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The evaporator is installed under the dash.

Seriously, why a 5/8" hole for the drain? Nobody has a drill bit that size. It costs almost $20 at Lowe's to buy one. I have a tough time spending that just to drill one hole.

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Ol Blue K20 08-07-2020 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbosprint (Post 8788490)
The evaporator is installed under the dash.

Seriously, why a 5/8" hole for the drain? Nobody has a drill bit that size. It costs almost $20 at Lowe's to buy one. I have a tough time spending that just to drill one hole.

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1/2 inch drill and dremel would work or a step bit. But too late now......

jimbosprint 08-08-2020 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Ol Blue K20 (Post 8788547)
1/2 inch drill and dremel would work or a step bit. But too late now......

I bought a $7 step bit at Harbor Freight this morning. Worked great.

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jimbosprint 08-08-2020 03:30 PM

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Harmonic balancer bolt was just missing. I got a new bolt at the parts store and installed the new pulley without any issues.

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SIXTY9 08-08-2020 04:57 PM

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Looking good.

jimbosprint 08-08-2020 07:57 PM

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The ducts are in the dash like spaghetti.

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Ol Blue K20 08-09-2020 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by jimbosprint (Post 8788866)
Harmonic balancer bolt was just missing. I got a new bolt at the parts store and installed the new pulley without any issues.

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Awesome,......

jimbosprint 08-09-2020 04:43 PM

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FedEx said my compressor and controls were delivering yesterday but they didn't show. So today I played with wiring for the new gauges. Temp and volt gauges will be custom fit into the cluster, and the tachometer will hose clamp onto the steering column.

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NorCalC20LWB 08-09-2020 07:32 PM

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Jimbo, you will love your VA unit. Had mine charged Friday and took it out today to the Placerville wine country, high 90's to 100 and blew ice cold. Took no time at all to start blowing cold after starting up in a hot cab. The original AC in my truck never worked, so I can't compare to stock, but I really don't think it would be better than this.

jimbosprint 08-09-2020 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by NorCalC20LWB (Post 8789409)
Jimbo, you will love your VA unit. Had mine charged Friday and took it out today to the Placerville wine country, high 90's to 100 and blew ice cold. Took no time at all to start blowing cold after starting up in a hot cab. The original AC in my truck never worked, so I can't compare to stock, but I really don't think it would be better than this.

Did you put a fan in front of the condenser, or just the regular Vintage Air setup?

Question - does it use a regular factory AC belt?

NorCalC20LWB 08-09-2020 08:00 PM

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Here's the belt I used, Gates, pretty sure 58" I think which is what VA recommended, stock pulleys. Not sure what you mean about fans, I have a stock setup.

jimbosprint 08-10-2020 01:38 PM

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Custom voltmeter and temperature gauges are in the instrument cluster. They look good in the daytime, but I wonder how they will look at night with the lights on.

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Ol Blue K20 08-10-2020 01:49 PM

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They look good. Don't forget to take a night pic for us.

jimbosprint 08-11-2020 04:41 PM

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Today's progress (so far):
  • The dash is all back together and the tachometer is installed
  • The Vintage Air controls are installed
  • Compressor brackets sandblasted and painted
  • Inner fender reinstalled
  • Alternator belt reinstalled

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jimbosprint 08-11-2020 10:58 PM

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How does an old work truck not have any tie-down anchors? I fixed that.

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jimbosprint 08-12-2020 12:49 AM

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They look good. Don't forget to take a night pic for us.

Here's that night dash photo. The tach ground is not hooked up yet, and I have to figure out why a few of the LED bulbs aren't working.

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SRU1436 08-12-2020 10:41 AM

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Here's that night dash photo. The tach ground is not hooked up yet, and I have to figure out why a few of the LED bulbs aren't working.

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I’ve only briefly messed with my dash lights, most work but not all. From my research it maybe the circuit board that is causing some of the lights to not work. Some of my sockets work and some don’t even after changing the bulbs, knowing the bulbs worked in a different socket. I’m probably gonna order a new circuit board and see if that is the issue.

SRU1436 08-12-2020 11:00 AM

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It’s all looking good, great job.

jimbosprint 08-12-2020 12:02 PM

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Compressor install was easy. I really appreciate the previous owner using anti-seize on the exhaust bolts. Now I am on the hunt for a shop with the crimping tools to make the AC hoses.

Can anyone tell me if the main power for the Vintage Air is safe to hook up to the battery side of the American Autowire Megafuse?


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