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Re: 1952 Chevy Vette Roadmaster LT1 Farm Truck Build
Looking good. Thanks for you efforts to share your build with the rest of us.
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Re: 1952 Chevy Vette Roadmaster LT1 Farm Truck Build
A few pics of yesterday's progress.
The cross member cleaned up with a few finishing touches and ready for final install. http://i615.photobucket.com/albums/t...d/IMG_6311.jpg http://i615.photobucket.com/albums/t...d/IMG_6312.jpg http://i615.photobucket.com/albums/t...d/IMG_6313.jpg A close up of the rack cut outs http://i615.photobucket.com/albums/t...d/IMG_6309.jpg |
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A few of the shock simulators I made using a worn out 3 1/2" hole saw to mimic the coil of a coil over to check for clearance.
http://i615.photobucket.com/albums/t...d/IMG_6328.jpg http://i615.photobucket.com/albums/t...d/IMG_6327.jpg http://i615.photobucket.com/albums/t...d/IMG_6321.jpg I plan on running QA1 DS401 or DS501 coil overs and have set the top shock mounts according to QA1 specs. Anybody have and better choice of coil overs to run? |
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Different note, since I'm about to get into doing a stub myself, what method did you use to reference your cross-member and make sure everything was square? |
Re: 1952 Chevy Vette Roadmaster LT1 Farm Truck Build
looking mighty nice.
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Thanks master builder 99!
JJorgensen52 - Thanks for the tip. I think I'm going to go with the spherical bearings on the ends just for that reason. It's going to be tuff to explain how I got the axle center marked on the frame. I have a cross brace across the frame just to the back of the IFS cross member. I laid a 4' ruler parallel to the frame rails across it and the core support member in the middle and clamped it down. I did this cause the frame rails are not parallel. I put a wheel in the fender opening and centered it. Then squared up the wheel to that ruler. Equal distance from the back and front of the tire to the ruler. I then laid a round rod in the center hole of the wheel till it touched the frame and rested and leveled it on a jack stand about a foot away from the outside the wheel. The rod was about 3' long. I squared the rod to the rim and placed a mark on the frame. I then transferred the center mark to the other rail by using a framing square against the 4' ruler still clamped parallel to the frame rails. I also measured many times from factory frame holes and the front of the frame to ensure the axle center mark was correct. Hope you understand how I did it. |
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Thanks for quizzing me. Makes me rethink if what I did is correct. |
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Thanks Sid.
I'm learning a lot watching your build. I wish I had more to offer back but I'm just getting into this type of work. The pace of your progress is amazing. |
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Sid, that looks really really good! Shame on me for not remembering you made the crossmember. It is a work of art!
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Thanks all! Just finishing the upper shock mounts. The shocks will be at about a 22-23 degree angle.
Gotta hit up Youngrodder for some advice on the LT1. |
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Do you already have the LT 1?
There is some nice new technology out there and it looks like it is going to be around a long time .........LS! |
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Thanks Marc |
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Youngrodder has a lot to say !! Besides as I remember the LS is made right down the road from you in the K-W area!! |
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I hear ya on the LS but around here, 5.3's go for around $1500 - $2000 with computer etc but with no trans. I found a L33 aluminum 5.3 from an 06 truck with computer etc but with no trans for $2500. It has 230000 km (143000 miles) on it to. You don't see the LT1 too often but see tons of LS swaps. Wanna be a bit different. Still not 100% decided but leaning more the LT1 route right now. Would an LS 5.3 have better mileage? |
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My head is just'a spinn'in |
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Not to worry, the engine mounts and trans mounts are in the same location as the LT !!!
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Thanks solidaxel...Are the LT1 engine mounts the same as a regular SBC? I have access to a 5.7 vortec block to use as a template.
Anymore pictures of your mounts? |
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I got my final upper shock mounts figured out tonight. Cut out, tacked and test fitted. I called QA1 today and they gave me all kinds of measurements which lead to the selection of the DD401 coil over. It's a double adjustable with spherical bearings. Another option is the DS401 which is single adjustable with spherical bearings. I could also get the DD402 or DS402 which is double or single adjustable respectively but both with bushings. Either way, I think going with bearings will help if the mounts are not 110% perfectly aligned. The mounts need to be 1 1/4" inside.
All the above shock choices have the same 14" extended, 10 1/8" compressed and 11 1/4" - 12 1/2" recommended ride height measurements. So with all this info I set my shock simulators to 11 7/8" eye to eye and made the upper mounts so I have plenty of clearance for upper control arm alignment and that I had lots of clearance between the mount and the coil. All said and done I have about 3/8" clearance between the coil and mount and the shock angle is about 20 degrees. The coil is 3 1/2" diameter and I used a worn out 3 1/2" hole saw to simulate the coils. The distance between the center of the top mounting hole and the top of the spring is 1 5/8" according to QA1. QA1 suggested that I keep the shock angle under 30 degrees but 15-20 would be best. I came out to 20 so that's where she will be at. I will make a pattern of the upper mount for anyone that wants to copy my work. I have pdf's of all the parts to make the same cross member as I did. My plans use a C4 steering rack. All that you need to do is print the pattern out to scale, trace and cut it out. I measured my stock cross member and made my own from it. A good buddy Stockish shared his info with me but I ended up modifying things according to the cross member my parts came off of. My IFS is the later version which is a bit wider than the earlier version. Anyway's, here's a few pictures of my shock simulators. The lower mount shock mounting hole is offset a bit which gives me about 3 degrees of angle adjustment by just rotating the mount 180 degrees. http://i615.photobucket.com/albums/t...d/IMG_6329.jpg http://i615.photobucket.com/albums/t...d/IMG_6330.jpg http://i615.photobucket.com/albums/t...d/IMG_6331.jpg http://i615.photobucket.com/albums/t...d/IMG_6332.jpg |
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a few more...
http://i615.photobucket.com/albums/t...d/IMG_6333.jpg http://i615.photobucket.com/albums/t...d/IMG_6334.jpg http://i615.photobucket.com/albums/t...d/IMG_6335.jpg http://i615.photobucket.com/albums/t...d/IMG_6336.jpg Tomorrow I will finish the other upper mount and finally have the front be able to support its own weight. Everything so far is coming out dimensionally correct side to side which is awesome considering my abilities. Next up is the rear. Man what a lot of work...........better pay off in the end :metal: |
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Looks really good Sid! Generous to share the patterns. I remember Stockish build...didn't he sell his truck?
I vote LS and it is surprising they are so expensive there. And an LT1 is a good running engine. They were pretty cool in the 95 Roadmasters. Recall the opti-spark in a Buick differs from the F body. Dumb question...is any additional support needed for the base of the coil over where it bolts to the LCA? |
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Yes he sold the truck. The roadmaster roasts the the tires with the LT1. Lots of torque. Optispark has been an issue but mine has the vented newer version. Still original and I understand the past issues with it.
No additional support needed for the LCA mounts as that's where the factory composite spring mounted. It's about 3/8" thick. |
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