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Familtbowtie;
Have you cked the turn clearness also?
You look very low on your wheels.
I have like a 3.5" clearness from wheel to fender at top of fender.
I'm running 14" wheels.
CK out the "Frankenstine" build.
I also had my cab set 2" above the frame,but had to add 1.5" spacer to front cab mount to ge the fenders n hood to line up.
I was also like 4" back on my cab from the eng dist.

T-P Auto
Tim :chevy:

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Skymags, just a reminder to confirm that the front of the front fenders is higher than the rear of the front fenders.
Thanks
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Not my pics, those are SteveAleves. Mine looks like it is sitting too high but I haven't put the drop spindles on yet. I will try and get some pics this weekend once I get the front sheet metal in place.

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Stevealeve, truck looks good

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Hey guys, sorry, I was out of the net till yesterday. Steve, how tall are your front tires? On Cecil I had time run New wheel spacers on the front to get turning clearance. I also radioed the front fenders a bit. The wheels won't be perfectly centered in the opening, but look good (like yours do)

Be careful moving the cab forward, with a small block the motor clearance is awful tight for a puller fan as it is. Bowtie, if you could send a pic that would be helpful, 20's are a ***** to get to fit right, but can be done. Also, put the grill on with a couple of bolts, the fenders spread a little, and make the wheel center look farther back. It is a noticeable difference! I should have brought that up earlier in this thread (sorry).

Gary. Will snap a pic and a measurement today.

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Thanks!! I am running P225 70 R15 in the front and P235 70 R15 in the rear. I think the front tire measures about 27.5 inches in diameter and just under 6.5 inches wide. I have 2 inch spacers on them and once I have the hood on I will be able to align the fenders properly to check my turning. Fingers crossed. Do you have any pics of the radiused fenders? I may have to go this route.

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Thanks Skymags. I have been pushing the radiator up and down to see what looks good. It appears that using your body mount spec's the front and rear of the front fenders should be about the same height off the ground, but just wanted to confirm if yours are even also. I'll weld mine in place if it is close to matching yours.
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I got the front sheet metal on the cab using SkyMags mount measurements but I looks high to me. I don't have the drop spindles on yet I am hoping that will bring it down. Thoughts please.
http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/y...psrxnvx7ff.jpg

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did you use the plans to make the running board parrell with the bottom of the frame? im doin the same.

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Is the motor and trans in?

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Hey Skymangs,
This may have been asked already and if it has I apologize for wasting your time with it again, but have you measured or eyeballed a newer Colorado or Canyon chassis for this mod? Excellent write-up, many thanks for your time and trouble.

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Motor is but needs to be moved back 4-5 inches, trans is out and will go back in next time I remove the cab.

I got the bed on today but it needs to be dropped 2 inches, I will get a pic tomorrow.

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Ya, sorry about that, I just saw your earlier post.

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Yes, front fenders should be about even. Maybey a smidge higher depending on how much rake you have in your suspension.

I haven't looked into the Colorado chassis. Never even considered it. May have to experiment at a future date.

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Here is a pic with the bed on, its not mounted yet but it will drop another 1.5" when I do. Seems high but there is no weight other than the motor.

Started my build thread also.
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=671706

http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/y...pswqmvlt6q.jpg

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Looks pretty good. Even when you have all the weight on it, the suspension will sink another 1/2" or so after a couple weeks of driving it. That seems to be a pretty reliable figure. 15 or so of these builds so far, and you get to know how much drop to expect.

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Front track width looks close stock and has rack & pinion. I couldn't find one cheap enough at the time.

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Nice, what kind of wheel base do they have?

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Per wikipedia,

Regular cab 111.2 in
Extended cab 126 in
Crew cab 120 in

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Does anyone have experience doing this with a 4x4 S10?

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I will in a couple of months. July project is a 41 chevy going on a 4x4 chassis. 4wd should be about an identical process.

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Awesome! Are you planning a build thread? Any details on the plans? Will it sit high, low... somewhere in the middle?


Ed

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I think it was here that a guy used a ZR2 S10 with good results.

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Thanks for the heads up. Found it. (link to 4wd Z52 / 49 truck thread)

Ed

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Truck will be about stock s10 4wd height. He wants to be able to take it camping and drive it in the winter.

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skymangs;

This is off post; :mm:

Help ! ! :devil:


I have the truck wired thur the fuse panel;
I just don't have a charging system thur the fuse panel ? :uhmk:
When I do get it to charge, then when I try to shut it off, it will not die till I disconnet the charge wire? :lol:
I'm useing the wiring diagram from a S10 haynes book.

T-P Auto
Tim :chevy:

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Call me brother. We'll figure it out. Run on can be caused by several issues. Too many questions to diagnose on thread.

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Skymangs;
Will call later this afternoon.
Thanks;
T-P Auto
Tim :chevy:

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Since your kinda of the topic of wiring, just wanted to know what wiring kits you suggest for these swaps? Does it make much difference what engine you run? Exc. LS, stock S10 or 350.

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Cold shot, check out post 98,99,100..........

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I use ez wiring 12 or 21 circuit harnesses depending on how many power accessories the build will have. Basic carb'd 350 gets a 12 circuit, start adding power seats, windows, door poppers, locks, etc y hen it needs a 21 circuit harness.

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Thanks, I knew it was in there's somewhere

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Evening guys and skymangs! New guy here, been doing soooo much reading and checking out everybodies trucks.. love this site!!! First post on the forum and here is where its going to be!
Ive read every one of these posts 15 times over before I went digging in .. im a measure twice cut once guy... anyways. Im working on a 1951 AD short bed, have it finally sitting on an 89 S10 long bed chassis,, ive put a whole new front end in, quick ratio steering box, 4x4 (top of the line 04ish Envoy) rear diff with sway bar, disk and 3:73 gears(rare im told)

anyways I made your version 1 mounts and have tacked the fronts 2 1/8th" forward of the oval frame hole just behind the flare of the frame , I have the back end resting on a floor jack just to double check where the rears mounts need to go.. and where I need to be is 8 1/8th from the rear of the 5/8 hole.. which is fine.. but something isn't looking right to me. I have the drivers fender someone dangling there just to get a visual.. I don't seem to be centered in the wheel well , its like the cab needs to move forward some... ut I just wanted to ask if this is looking right to you.. I have uploaded a few pics.. your help and knowledge has and is greatly appreciated!!!

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l2...psrj2cph9l.jpg

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l2...psa83ioa18.jpg

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l2...psjsgldnyf.jpg

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l2...ps4wad5urt.jpg

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if it all looks good then ill carry on.. if there are any other measurments I can make to make sure im in the right spot please advise. Back of the cab to the front of the forward box mount anything like that?

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I ended up putting my mounts 3.1/8" fwd to center my wheels. It looked ok with 15" wheels at 2.1/8 but when I put 20" wheels on it looked off so I moved the mounts 1" forward. After putting the fenders/grill on I ended up cutting the front frame horns right where they should be (at the PS).

I just put the 20"s back on and you can see a pic on my build thread. Happy with the sheet metal now. Now on to lowering it and getting the driveline connected.

Hope this helps.

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I've been trying to find headers for my build. My motor is a 350 out of a 93 1500. I've looked at the Patriot and some others and they all seem to say they do NOT work with angled heads/plugs.

Are there another option other than switching out the heads?

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4orty6, keep in mind that as you add weight, the upper control arms articulate slightly (I believe to the rear, but I forget ). Make sure you have accounted for that movement before final burn in.

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Also, bolt the grill in. It spreads the front of the fenders some, and changes how the wheel looks in the fender.

I'm not sure why your rear measurement is 8 1/8th. From the rear edge of that 5/8 hole, 10.5" should mark the forward edge of your cab stand. That measurement should allow you to use one of the exsisting body mount holes to bolt your cab to the stand.

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Bowtie; not sure on angled plugs. The early 90's 5.7s I've seen have all been straight plugs.

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Here's a tidbit that should help you LS guys.
So the radiator hose part numbers are as follows:

Upper rad hose
22248
or
22227

Lower:
21045
Lower will require a straight water neck. See below.

Straight water neck Part number 2671 from Mr. Gasket on Ebay.