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moregrip 01-28-2019 10:48 PM

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sweet baby jesus, top notch all the way!!

Dads79GMC 01-28-2019 10:50 PM

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sweet baby jesus, top notch all the way!!

Thanks Chief!

I have some good stuff coming later this week!!! :metal::metal:

Jaysonb 01-29-2019 12:08 AM

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Looking awesome Mike! I imagine you will have it running by the end of the week!

Dads79GMC 01-29-2019 12:14 AM

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No way Sir! I'd be happy to have it pulled and painted by the end of the week. Once the weather breaks and we get back into the 20s, I'll have to work on the Household Commanders master bath - not gonna cut backer cement board inside the the house or her garage, too dusty!!

hatzie 01-29-2019 12:56 AM

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I wasn't expecting to do much this evening with the 78, however, I was surprised to find a package from Michigan Motorsports containing coil brackets and the associated wiring harness - so, I had something to do tonight. I also picked up a pulley for the 1998-2002 Camaro LS1 power steering pump earlier today that I was going to install later this week. I ended up pressing on the power steering pulley then put together the coil relocation brackets and checked out the wiring harness. Fun fun!!! Mike

One of the things I really like about the LS motors is the super short spark plug wires. Mounting the coils on top of the valve covers is not aesthetically pleasing to some but I like how neat and clean and out of the way the wiring harness is with them on the valve covers.

mongocanfly 01-29-2019 12:57 AM

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Sweet build dads79....I also swiped ideas from Jonathon for my IH build..
nice coil setup

Dads79GMC 01-29-2019 01:00 AM

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One of the things I really like about the LS motors is the super short spark plug wires. Mounting the coils on top of the valve covers is not aesthetically pleasing to some but I like how neat and clean the wiring harness is with them on the valve covers.

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Sweet build dads79....I also swiped ideas from Jonathon for my IH build...

Hatzie, I hear ya! I thought it would be just a little different to do this, then bug everybody who complains abut the Corporate Blue Paint ;);)

monodcanfly...Jonathon has a great thread on this. The International looks awesome!!!

Mike

bluex 01-30-2019 03:27 PM

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Hatzie, I hear ya! I thought it would be just a little different to do this, then bug everybody who complains abut the Corporate Blue Paint ;);)

monodcanfly...Jonathon has a great thread on this. The International looks awesome!!!

Mike

Oh believe me everyone will complain about it too. I hear it all the time, "why'd you paint that motor ford blue?" I get various responses when I tell them it's GM blue and was factory for a 78. Most tell me I'm wrong an GM never painted anything blue just orange an black..... :lol:

hatzie 01-30-2019 03:36 PM

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Oh believe me everyone will complain about it too. I hear it all the time, "why'd you paint that motor ford blue?" I get various responses when I tell them it's GM blue and was factory for a 78. Most tell me I'm wrong an GM never painted anything blue just orange an black..... :lol:

Had a 79 C20 on the farm with a blue 350. It was original.
The color looked just like the 302 in my 1980 Ford LTD.

Dads79GMC 01-30-2019 07:12 PM

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Oh believe me everyone will complain about it too. I hear it all the time, "why'd you paint that motor ford blue?" I get various responses when I tell them it's GM blue and was factory for a 78. Most tell me I'm wrong an GM never painted anything blue just orange an black..... :lol:

I can’t wait to paint this LS Gm Blue!! Lol!!!

Got some thingy things delivered by UPS this afternoon!! ??

Dieselwrencher 01-31-2019 07:29 PM

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Awesome work and nice pieces! I painted the 5.3 in my 71 Camaro ford blue. :lol: (It actually used to be trophy blue but duplicolor has changed the name)

Dads79GMC 01-31-2019 09:31 PM

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Awesome work and nice pieces! I painted the 5.3 in my 71 Camaro ford blue. :lol: (It actually used to be trophy blue but duplicolor has changed the name)

No Ford Blue Ryan :lol:

Dads79GMC 01-31-2019 09:35 PM

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This is what came yesterday! I'm looking forward to some day installing it!! :chevy:

Dads79GMC 02-10-2019 04:49 PM

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If any of you missed it on page 11, I'm more or less following what "dayj1" http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=668385 in his 4.8L build thread. Yesterday, I worked first on the you Dirty Dingo LS trans x-member. I didn't like the how the engine was sitting in the frame so I did some modifying of the x-member. I also drilled a hole for the MAP sensor in the throttle body. I think I have all my sensors now worked out. next is adapting the wiring harness to fit the new configuration. Thanks Mike

Pictures:
1. Original location of trans x-member plate.
2. Trans x-member ready for welding.
3. Test fitting the trans...good to go.
4. Drilled hole for MAP sensor.
5. MAP installed.

Dads79GMC 02-10-2019 04:49 PM

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Last one, MAP in place. I will make a small bracket to keep it in place. Thanks Mike

mongocanfly 02-12-2019 10:32 PM

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looks good Mike....whered you get your throttle adapter from? and are you running yours with the throttle motor forward?1 pic shows it in the back and 1 pic shows it in the front
also I know Jonathan put his fresh air side pcv in the top of the throttle..but did you see how I did mine in the base plate?..it was Jonathon approved...

Dads79GMC 02-12-2019 11:04 PM

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looks good Mike....whered you get your throttle adapter from? and are you running yours with the throttle motor forward?1 pic shows it in the back and 1 pic shows it in the front
also I know Jonathan put his fresh air side pcv in the top of the throttle..but did you see how I did mine in the base plate?..it was Jonathon approved...

Mongo, I did see that! I don’t know which way to go, I might just pull it through the valve cover with a small cone filter or in the top of the throttle body.

I got my parts from Delmo’s Speed shop.

mongocanfly 02-13-2019 12:51 AM

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Jonathon told me that the pass side is metered air and has to go thru the throttle.. without it being metered the drivers side going to the back of the intake will suck major air into the intake ,causing a lean condition..if I remember correctly

Dads79GMC 02-13-2019 01:31 AM

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Thanks Mango! I’ll have to investigate further I guess.
:metal:

Dads79GMC 02-13-2019 10:45 PM

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Tonight I spent some time taking the wiring loom off the harness and reorganizing the wires for this set-up. The truck harness has a big loop in it on top of the truck intake, so, by taking the loom off, I was able to back out wires and move them around so that it's better organized.

Mango, you're correct on the PCV.

Thanks Mike

Dads79GMC 02-15-2019 12:56 PM

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Yesterday I received a set of 73-87 LS Engine Mounts from Hedman Performance Group. I swapped out the Dirty Dingo's last night with the Hedman's to see how they'd work with this application. I like the Dirty Dingo's and will use them on another LS application, but for this one, I need to go a little bit forward and up in order to gain some space for hiding the coils behind the engine. It looks great. Downside, I'll have to have my driveshaft lengthened about an inch. I will pull the engine this weekend and get it cleaned up before I paint it. This will also give me a chance clean the frame as well. If I wanted to move forward another half inch, I could switch around the mounts. Thanks Mike

Pictures:
1-2. Hedman info
3. Engine location after swap
4. Engine location before swap
5. Pic of mounts

Dads79GMC 02-15-2019 01:04 PM

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Here are some more pics. I think the driveshaft is a bit short, what do you professionals think? Thanks Mike

Pictures:
1. For some reason, engine sits more level now (3 degrees)
2. Driveshaft???
3. Driveshaft 2.5" into tail housing of 4L60E

aggie91 02-15-2019 03:37 PM

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While I am not a professional driveshaft guy, I would think that as long as the yoke is in the bushing of the tail shaft housing and is supported by the bushing more than it is not supported, I would think it is OK at that spot. Does that make sense?

Dads79GMC 02-15-2019 03:41 PM

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While I am not a professional driveshaft guy, I would think that as long as the yoke is in the bushing of the tail shaft housing and is supported by the bushing more than it is not supported, I would think it is OK at that spot. Does that make sense?

Aggie91, make sense. I'll probably bring the driveshaft to the driveshaft shop with the tape on it and see what they say. :lol:

Dads79GMC 02-16-2019 10:24 PM

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Today I spent most of the day running around town looking for cleaner, paint, shop towels and another engine stand. Also had a visitor so spent another 2 hours BS'ing in the shop!!!! OK, I did get the engine and trans pulled, trans separated and each on a stand for cleaning. I did get the LS pretty clean and will get the trans cleaned tomorrow, then hopefully get both painted by the end of the day. Yesterday I ordered a new trans pain with drain plug, so I'll swap that out when it comes in a couple days.

Pictures:
1. Engine and trans just pulled and on temporary wheels.
2-3. Engine and trans on their stands
4. Clean engine.

See you tomorrow. Thanks Mike

MrFinland 02-17-2019 01:30 PM

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Very nice work Mike! ...about your driveshaft problems... I think about if, can you move the engine backwards to make the driveshaft better or will the engine come too close to the firewall? This is perhaps a crazy idea but came to mind.

hatzie 02-17-2019 02:12 PM

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The suspension will sag and the driveshaft will seat deeper into the tailhousing once the bed, cab, and nose are in place.

I would wait til the body is on the frame before you declare it too short.

Dads79GMC 02-17-2019 07:34 PM

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Very nice work Mike! ...about your driveshaft problems... I think about if, can you move the engine backwards to make the driveshaft better or will the engine come too close to the firewall? This is perhaps a crazy idea but came to mind.

Thanks MrFinland! I'm gonna keep the engine where it is so that I can get the coils in behind it. :metal:

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The suspension will sag and the driveshaft will seat deeper into the tailhousing once the bed, cab, and nose are in place.

I would wait til the body is on the frame before you declare it too short.

Hatzie, you may be correct, however, the rear is aired out ;)

Thanks Mike

Dads79GMC 02-17-2019 07:43 PM

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It was a good day. I didn't get the transmission painted because the paint didn't come in to Napa! :sumo:

However, I did get the engine taped off and painted after I gave it a quick once over cleaning this morning. Valve covers are temporary until I get a set of factory 70's 350 valve covers. I want the covers that have the wiring loom attachment so that I can attach the injector loom.

Thanks Mike

808_67C10 02-17-2019 07:45 PM

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I was under my truck yesterday and I have about the same amount of space you have with regard to the shaft/transmission... I don't or never had any issues.

It took everything in my power not to make a shaft/tranny joke.

808_67C10 02-17-2019 07:46 PM

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It was a good day. I didn't get the transmission painted because the paint didn't come in to Napa! :sumo:

However, I did get the engine taped off and painted after I gave it a quick once over cleaning this morning. Valve covers are temporary until I get a set of factory 70's 350 valve covers. I want the covers that have the wiring loom attachment so that I can attach the injector loom.

Thanks Mike

Wow Mike, that is clean!!!

Dads79GMC 02-17-2019 07:46 PM

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It's all about driveshaft penetration!

Dads79GMC 02-17-2019 07:47 PM

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Wow Mike, that is clean!!!

Thanks Sir

moregrip 02-17-2019 11:14 PM

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It was a good day. I didn't get the transmission painted because the paint didn't come in to Napa! :sumo:

However, I did get the engine taped off and painted after I gave it a quick once over cleaning this morning. Valve covers are temporary until I get a set of factory 70's 350 valve covers. I want the covers that have the wiring loom attachment so that I can attach the injector loom.

Thanks Mike

What's the story with the color? I like it!:metal:

Dads79GMC 02-17-2019 11:15 PM

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It's the factory color from I think 78-82, somewhere in there. GM Corporate Blue. Thanks Mike

moregrip 02-17-2019 11:18 PM

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It's the factory color from I think 78-82, somewhere in there. GM Corporate Blue. Thanks Mike

very nice detail:chevy:

Dads79GMC 02-17-2019 11:26 PM

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Thanks Chief. I like orange and had I stayed with the factory color I would have gone orange. However, since the truck is crimson/white, I thought the factory color (Corporate Blue) would pop against the crimson firewall? :)

moregrip 02-17-2019 11:50 PM

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Thanks Chief. I like orange and had I stayed with the factory color I would have gone orange. However, since the truck is crimson/white, I thought the factory color (Corporate Blue) would pop against the crimson firewall? :)

Agreed, much better contrast, I think it will be a classier look (if there is such a thing)

Jaysonb 02-18-2019 09:20 AM

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Looks good Sir! RCK would be proud! ; )

aggie91 02-18-2019 11:11 AM

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I like the look of the LS in corporate blue!


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