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60-66 03-29-2016 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by LT1 Burb (Post 7538842)
You know what's funny is this one went for 504 and another NOS one just sold for I think 160, which was a smoking deal.

It was really hard to tell on that second one because of poor pictures, but the master cylinder looked totally wrong and Im thinking the booster was something else other than truck and in the wrong box. Normally these kits did not have a master cylinder with them. The biggest part of that last sale going so cheap was, it was missing most the hardware , like the aluminum shim and pedal pad etc.

60-66 03-29-2016 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by jonzcustomshop (Post 7538843)
that hub cap post is really nice!


"1966 Half ton Nub hubcaps NOS GM Compared to reproduction. Bowtie is considerably shorter top to bottom. Stamping is more squared off."

any ideas why the bowtie is not correct?
just poor design, or do they have to do that because of the trademark?

Thank you Jon.

I talked to one of the guys in purchasing for the Truck Shop about that. He said "it doesn't matter" , he went on to say, they didn't want to spend the time and money to fix what most people don't know or care enough about. There was one more company making these reproduction hubcaps but I think "They" quit making them 10 or so years ago. Owner has since passed away . He told me that ALL of his products came back from Taiwan to meet his approval . He was licensed by GM. His Bowtie was 98% right on but the background color was more orange than red . I have a couple of these also. He also made the 1960 Chrome 1/2 and 3/4 ton caps and they were the only ones that would stay on the clip rims. I've lost two from a set, of the cheaper brand, off my 60. You can feel the difference when you install them . There again the bowtie is off on the cheaper sets.

pimpston65 03-29-2016 10:53 AM

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i'll take all the chrome caps for the clip style rims!!! just pm me the info...

60-66 03-29-2016 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by pimpston65 (Post 7540299)
i'll take all the chrome caps for the clip style rims!!! just pm me the info...

:haha::haha::haha::haha: Only if you send me GMCs as a replacement LePimp !

yelmer 03-29-2016 01:14 PM

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here is my repop on right nos on left

oem4me 03-29-2016 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by yelmer (Post 7540485)
here is my repop on right nos on left

I had no idea. Sooo much better than the ones now available! I imagine the tooling still exists somewhere, no?
The guy at Truck Shop is flat wrong. Lots of people notice the details.

aerotruk63 03-29-2016 03:07 PM

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Great hubcap breakdown.

60-66 03-29-2016 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by yelmer (Post 7540485)
here is my repop on right nos on left

Okay, going to edit the reproduction thing in the hubcap post. Not only are the ones I compared smaller top to bottom on the wings of the bowtie, I measured them with a dial caliper and the poor repop is much taller in the center. Heres all three. Original on left, the "Good" reproductions in the center and the currently available far right.

For the bowtie wings I will call them
Original measures .593
GOOD reproduction .500
Poor reproduction .463

Center of bowtie or center square
Original measures .890 tall
GOOD reproduction .820 tall
Poor reproduction .992 tall

You can see now why the poor reproductions look so disproportioned. Also notice the ridge around the center is more rounded compared to the poor reproduction thats more pointed. Fine for many street trucks but this is a restoration thread. Hate to sound so over critical but that bowtie sucks !
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/j...READ/029_1.jpg

likaroc13 03-29-2016 10:06 PM

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Great pics & references for this thread! I honestly have no clue if my chrome '66 hubcaps are original or repros, so I'll have to check them out more closely.

LT1 Burb 03-29-2016 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by 60-66 (Post 7539357)
It was really hard to tell on that second one because of poor pictures, but the master cylinder looked totally wrong and Im thinking the booster was something else other than truck and in the wrong box. Normally these kits did not have a master cylinder with them. The biggest part of that last sale going so cheap was, it was missing most the hardware , like the aluminum shim and pedal pad etc.

I didn't see that but I guess if the hardware wasnt there, that's the most important part.

sodly 03-29-2016 10:38 PM

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Wow! Incredibly thorough breakdown, 60-66. Thanks for taking the time and effort to do these comparisons.

jbgroby 03-30-2016 09:06 AM

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I can add a bit of information for this thread in regards to the Hubcaps. In 1960, the correct hubcap for the GMC trucks was the 1957-1959 GMC caps.This was because when the 1960 model year was rolled out, GMC either forgot to design a new cap or it was not ready for production. The caps changed in 1961. I put the 1959 caps on my '60 as the early sales ads show them this way.

60-66 03-30-2016 09:37 AM

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Thank you Jake . That's partially correct. The hubcap you posted is the same in design , yes. For 1960 AND 1961 GMCs , GMC grouped both years together as the "N" series . Both 1960 and 1961 received the same version hubcap with a paint change of a blue a center and blue outer ring accent. This is spelled out in the GMC parts books , dealer literature and data books. GMC did many things different than Chevrolet even though they are subtle differences , they make it a little tough sometimes.
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/j...GMC_Hubcap.jpg

jbgroby 03-30-2016 01:06 PM

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You can see both Painted and Chromed in this picture. I though about changing the color to blue, but the red matches the emblem as well, so it was a coin toss.

60-66 03-30-2016 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by jbgroby (Post 7541638)
You can see both Painted and Chromed in this picture. I though about changing the color to blue, but the red matches the emblem as well, so it was a coin toss.

Yeah I here ya there. Painting these GMC caps would be a chore. Oem4me is quite talented in that field. He should do a hubcap "restoration" thread !!;)

jlbruce 04-07-2016 10:09 PM

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i have a 1966 chevy c10 inline 6 and have a big issue. this truck was barned for 15 years and I just got it running, well kind of. I put a new carb on(1bbl rodchester) and new fuel line along with a new sending unit. I also put in new plugs and points, cap, rotor, timed it to 4 degrees advanced and it now will start takes some turning over but will start and idle but when I try driving it it wont come up to speed it just boggs down cant pull its own weight. what could be causing this? please help done all i can think of. thanks

60-66 04-07-2016 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by jlbruce (Post 7552421)
i have a 1966 chevy c10 inline 6 and have a big issue. this truck was barned for 15 years and I just got it running, well kind of. I put a new carb on(1bbl rodchester) and new fuel line along with a new sending unit. I also put in new plugs and points, cap, rotor, timed it to 4 degrees advanced and it now will start takes some turning over but will start and idle but when I try driving it it wont come up to speed it just boggs down cant pull its own weight. what could be causing this? please help done all i can think of. thanks

Try a new vacuum advance on the distributor .
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jlbruce 04-07-2016 10:20 PM

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i'll try that in the morning thanks didnt think of that will keep you posted

White knuckle Garage 04-07-2016 10:27 PM

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I've seen that before and it was the points not set right but mine was also running a little warm along with that reset the points and work fine

oem4me 04-08-2016 11:17 AM

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Wrong thread for this subject. You'll probably get more views in the general 60-66 section or Engines and Drivetrain section.

jlbruce 04-08-2016 10:45 PM

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tried new vacuum advance and set dwell to 30 and timing to 4btdc but still no power when i drive. the vacuum advance still does not move even when revved way up. took line off carb and with finger over hole and revving still feel no vac out of new carb should i feel the suction?

likaroc13 04-08-2016 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by jlbruce (Post 7553616)
tried new vacuum advance and set dwell to 30 and timing to 4btdc but still no power when i drive. the vacuum advance still does not move even when revved way up. took line off carb and with finger over hole and revving still feel no vac out of new carb should i feel the suction?

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Originally Posted by oem4me (Post 7552955)
Wrong thread for this subject. You'll probably get more views in the general 60-66 section or Engines and Drivetrain section.

:agree:

aotte1 04-13-2016 02:11 PM

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Hood Hinge and Spring Finish

Hood Hinge
From research here looks like some hood hinges were silver cad, which mine looked like, weathered silver with some light rust/dirt. Also, some of the photos posted for Lambert, looked like they may have been blackish ones too??.

Hood Hinge Springs

Again research looks like they were kind of flat blackish, phosphate?? mine looked like this.


Couple of photos of mine cleaned.

Les

60-66 04-14-2016 08:16 AM

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Les , From my own group of trucks and personally , every truck Ive seen, 1960-1963 is Silver Cad with silver cad bolts and 1964-1966 is gray/Black phosphate with silver cad bolts .

1963 Silver Cad hinge gray phosphate spring
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/j...0001bb%209.jpg

1964 Lambrecht truck . You can see the contrast in this picture of the 1964 between the cad plated bolts and gray phosphate hinge.
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/j...UCTION/250.jpg

Brad54 04-18-2016 02:44 PM

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We've covered the paint/build order for the cab and the bed. How about the front sheet metal?

How was it all painted? Separately, then bolted together?
I've never seen a good, unmolested truck: are the inner fender and core support bolts all painted, as though they were bolted together prior to painting?

Grill surround? I've never paid attention to see if the flanges of the grill surround and the outer fenders are painted body color, or primer and bolted together before exterior paint.

-Brad

yelmer 04-18-2016 06:48 PM

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on the hood and hinge bolt using star washers did that change in 66 to flat washers does somebody have a original 66 to see

oem4me 04-20-2016 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by yelmer (Post 7565176)
on the hood and hinge bolt using star washers did that change in 66 to flat washers does somebody have a original 66 to see

Yup. April 66 Fremont truck has flat washers.

pedrosc10 05-05-2016 04:45 PM

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Great thread. It has become my go to before the shop manual. Looking for pics of weather strip. I have not seen any. Just wondering may be the whole door. glass run channels etc... Thank you in advance!

ironman3452 05-13-2016 01:51 PM

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this is great lots of possibilities

jbgroby 05-14-2016 10:29 AM

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Learned something out the Hydra-matic today. My dipstickcap has always been loose so I decided to solder it and make it right. I glass bead blasted it and found this under the paint - cool. One more factory correct item.

CurtDrums 06-28-2016 10:56 AM

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Hello all. I'm new to this forum and really looking forward to getting some help from you guys!

I have a 1966 C10. The question is should the firewall be the color of the exterior of the truck or fawn beige like the interior. I've already painted the firewall fawn beige, thinking that was right, but I can change that. I want it to be correct.

Thanks!

ironman3452 06-28-2016 06:56 PM

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[quote=sodly;7338096]
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Originally Posted by 60-66 (Post 7336804)
Heres the hang tag on the shifter , tag was pretty dull. Also , in the glove box of many were the factory license plate bolts and nuts for front and rear in little envelopes.
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/j...79101281_n.jpg


Any idea what that hang tag says? My 66 Ford F100 has a similar hang tag... still hanging!

it says it all when it said ford

scootermcrad 07-13-2016 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by 60-66 (Post 7537246)
"The Hubcap Thread". Here are several examples of most of the 1960-1966 Chevrolet hubcaps by year, size and GM part number. Included are the G series hubcaps for 13 inch wheels, both 1/2 ton styles , clip and nub, along with 4x4 hubcaps and the 20 and 30 series truck hubcaps with measurements. Also some comparisons to reproduction hubcaps for 1966. If there is something written by mistake please let me know so it can be corrected.

Man! All that cap information you provided was INCREDIBLE! HUGE help! Thank you for posting that!

This is a great thread. Some amazing information here that is really going to help bring my '64 C10 back to life!

Classic v6 GMC's 07-16-2016 09:31 PM

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Pulled this out of the 1964 C60 fire truck we got for parts.

Classic v6 GMC's 07-16-2016 09:32 PM

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pic

aotte1 07-25-2016 01:43 PM

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Found these GM NOS accessory mud flaps for dual wheel. "60-66" looked up the part number, referenced as for 20 to 40 series trucks. Maybe they were a '66 accessory, that is hand written on box? Instruction sheets date 5-4-65, their are 7 pages of them. The part number is 986734, Group 8.214.

Les

60-66 07-25-2016 01:54 PM

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Forgot to say they are in the book as 1960-1966 trucks Les , Jon

aerotruk63 07-25-2016 02:28 PM

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https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-j...0/image0-1.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-w.../image0-17.jpg

aerotruk63 07-28-2016 11:54 AM

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Sourced from the 1966 Canadian Accessories Book.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Z...0/DSCN0209.JPG

aerotruk63 07-28-2016 11:59 AM

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58-66 Medium Duty parts Book lists
5768984 1958-66/ALL
988168 BRACKET UNIT, 1960-63/ALL
985918 BRACKET UNIT, 1964-66/ALL


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