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DWilbur 02-20-2015 03:03 AM

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that is quite a bit of work
I made a 6 door burb used the back door section and used a 6' box took some time
thing was long as a freight train
sorry never took pics

That's cool 6 door burb. to bad you don't have pictures.

jandlcars 02-21-2015 12:06 AM

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it ran around San Rafael for a while

DWilbur 02-25-2015 03:19 AM

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I spent last week end replacing the engine and trans in my Plymouth Satellite and things did not go well. The rag joint was trashed and ended up making one out of 2 universal ones. Then we fought the headers and oil pan. ended up removing the engine and trans from the car pulled the oil pan and spent 2 hour Monday cutting an 1" off the front and back of the lower part of the pan. The engine mounts I bought ended up the wrong ones and had to order some online. Hopefully we will get it stuffed back in this coming week end and I can get back on the truck.

7dee2 02-25-2015 11:36 AM

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I hear ya, it's tough with all the side projects to move forward at times.

mud.man.rj 02-25-2015 09:44 PM

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Positive side is you got a bunch done on the Plymouth and know what you need to continue, so a great thing.

swamp rat 02-26-2015 01:11 AM

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And also your not alone in the setbacks, there only temporary.

DWilbur 02-27-2015 02:15 AM

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good news I picked up my high steer parts from my power coater and stopped by Sky's shop he started priming the bed this week.
Bad news another delay that happened Friday last week my house was flooded Friday afternoon when I got home. Today I was told they have to remove the marble bathroom floor do to moisture issues and I only have 1 bathroom so I won't be living at my house for the next 2or 3 weeks. my house cleaner left the shower on not realizing the city was working on the main water so when the water was turned on the shower sprayed water out side on the floor. water went down the hallway (hardwood floors) the 3 bedrooms and into the kitchen.

Dieselwrencher 02-27-2015 02:50 AM

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Man, sorry to hear about the flood issues!

swamp rat 02-27-2015 05:07 AM

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Oh man that sucks......

cmabolt 02-27-2015 10:07 AM

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What a bummer! Hopefully that won't keep ya down for too long.

Chris

7dee2 02-27-2015 10:18 AM

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Oh crap, sorry to hear this. Hope the repairs go smoothly.

DWilbur 02-27-2015 09:34 PM

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My nephew is helping me stuff my engine in the Satellite Saturday. I finished up the mods to the oil pan today and the new engine mounts came in this afternoon. Sunday I'm going to try and work on the truck. If I need a bathroom I will have to use the out house. You know the back yard. Ha Ha Ha. The adjuster was out looking at the damage yesterday. hopefully they will start fixing the damage next week. I might have line on the marble I installed back in 2008 keeping my finger crossed.

DWilbur 03-01-2015 10:27 PM

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Managed to get the engine install in my Satellite on Saturday along with some complications the fuel tank did not come with gaskets the flex plate TCI sold me was universal one they said would fit and hit the starter motor had to fix it. broke the reverse switch when stuffing the engine and trans at the same time. Forgot to remove a bracket on the old trans. Next week end should be able to finish it up. Finally got some work done today on my truck and installed the rear end. Now that the rear end is out of the garage I can start working on the D60 front replacing bearings and seals.

mud.man.rj 03-02-2015 12:51 AM

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:c2:Good for you, getting a lot done on both projects. Dana 60 front, nice.

swamp rat 03-02-2015 02:57 AM

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Perseverance pays off! Didn't know you had a D60, nice!

First c10 03-02-2015 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DWilbur (Post 6333815)
I received my cross member from Dirty Dingo Motorsports Thursday. everything was well packed in 2 boxes. only thing no instructions but they have pictures on there web site that explains a lot. If my nephew stops by this week end we will install the mount and engine check the fit of the engine to fire wall, headers and power steering pump. I'm going to work on fitting the floor patch panel today.

Hey Dwilber,
looking good man....
Can I ask why you went with Dirty Dingo over Pacific Fabrication?
I have asked this question in both the 4X4 section and LS section with no response
thanks
Scott

DWilbur 03-02-2015 05:26 PM

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look at what I found in my side yard today left rear 1972 door panel. I knew I had one and it is very clean, now I have 2.
Hi Scott
The Dirty Dingo mount was the only one I found when searching at the time that fit 4X4 and it looked good not realizing it sets the engine lower than 2 wheel truck frame by 1.5" and making headers an issue.

First c10 03-02-2015 05:35 PM

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That is the reason I asked about them. Pacific fabrication is in gilroy but haven't heard much about them from actual users I have asked to see the benefits or problems with each. Not much response. What is the reason for the movement or location change?

DWilbur 03-02-2015 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by First c10 (Post 7073118)
That is the reason I asked about them. Pacific fabrication is in gilroy but haven't heard much about them from actual users I have asked to see the benefits or problems with each. Not much response. What is the reason for the movement or location change?

Are you asking about the 1.5" difference in-between the 4X4 mount and the 2 wheel drive mount. I think it's how Dirty Dingo built the mount. I did move my engine forward about 1" to clear the coil pack on the right side.

swamp rat 03-02-2015 08:16 PM

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I tried painting my origional green set using the adheasion coat and plastic paint but the paint is already rubbing off in places. I have 2 black sets waiting in the wings.

I like the statement "my side of the yard" pretty much what my wife and i hsve worked out. :)

Kinda odd seeing a rear one with no holes for the arm rest or open lever.

DWilbur 03-02-2015 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by swamp rat (Post 7073347)
I tried painting my origional green set using the adheasion coat and plastic paint but the paint is already rubbing off in places. I have 2 black sets waiting in the wings.

I like the statement "my side of the yard" pretty much what my wife and i hsve worked out. :)

Kinda odd seeing a rear one with no holes for the arm rest or open lever.

The left rear does not open no door. the arm rest mounted to the seat. just window crank.

First c10 03-03-2015 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by DWilbur (Post 7073345)
Are you asking about the 1.5" difference in-between the 4X4 mount and the 2 wheel drive mount. I think it's how Dirty Dingo built the mount. I did move my engine forward about 1" to clear the coil pack on the right side.

No I just wanted to find out anything regarding installation of either mount before I ordered one.

The comment you made about moving the engine forward after using the DD mounts to clear the coils is what I am talking about.
I didn't want to order one over the other without hearing from someone that used either one of them.
Thanks
Scott

DWilbur 03-03-2015 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by First c10 (Post 7073944)
No I just wanted to find out anything regarding installation of either mount before I ordered one.

The comment you made about moving the engine forward after using the DD mounts to clear the coils is what I am talking about.
I didn't want to order one over the other without hearing from someone that used either one of them.
Thanks
Scott

Hello Scott
The problem I noticed is the headers that are offered are built for 2 wheel drive 67 to 72 truck. The cross member in 2 wheel drive holds the engine up about 1.5" higher than the LS engine mounts that are being offered for 4X4 frames. I do have a set of block huger headers from Headman that do fit. I'm going to see what I can do the modify the Doug Thorley headers. I know the right side hits the frame. left I think will fit with the NV4500 trans do to the slave cylinder being on the right under the starter motor.

First c10 03-03-2015 05:41 PM

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Is there a reason why the motors are so much lower on a 4x4 than a 2wd?
Sorry to ask this on your build tread.

DWilbur 03-03-2015 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by First c10 (Post 7074672)
Is there a reason why the motors are so much lower on a 4x4 than a 2wd?
Sorry to ask this on your build tread.

The cross member on 2 wheel drive supports the front suspension and A arms. it is much larger than the cross member in a 4X4 frame only holding the engine.

First c10 03-03-2015 08:36 PM

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What is the reason for he height change?

DWilbur 03-08-2015 10:01 PM

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Saturday my nephew Travis help me clean up and I finally got my garage cleaned out and moved things around so I can get the frame in the garage when I'm not working on it after the D60 is back together. Sunday I fixed my kitchen table and took the D60 apart. found broken spindle nut so I will order new on. Every thing else looked good. The lower king pins took some beating with a hammer and chisel to get them off. Started cleaning up some part and painting. All in all good week end.

DWilbur 03-21-2015 07:53 PM

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Got some more work done on the d60 axle today. The break pistons and calipers were very dirty in side so I took them apart and cleaned them up. I used my air compressor to remove the pistons and the first one almost took my head off when it shot out of the caliper and went flying across the garage. The 2nd one I turned it over to push it out with air on the bench and it was a lot safer. Got the axle housing painted too. should be able to start putting it back together end of next week. I had to ordered 2 new spindles both of them looked like metal chunks were galling up the bearing and seal surfaces.

ryanroo 03-21-2015 10:03 PM

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thats a pretty axle housing!

swamp rat 03-22-2015 01:54 AM

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Least somebody's making some progress!

notchbackgta 03-22-2015 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by DWilbur (Post 7100411)
The 2nd one I turned it over to push it out with air on the bench and it was a lot safer.

I usually put a small piece of 2x4 in the pad area and turn the air pressure down to about 5psi. When they go flying they usually damage the piston

DWilbur 03-23-2015 06:54 PM

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Ryan that picture is just the base coat I clear coated it Sunday. Hay swamp rat its been a while from your last post. you busy doing other things. I have been working grave yard for the last month so I get up early and work on the truck for couple hours about 3 days a week. I get most truck stuff done on the week ends. 4 Wheel parts called me today and they don't have the spindles and can't get them for about a month. I call my friend Pat to see if he can find a couple by the end of the week. Today I installed the ARP studs in the stearing knuckles and removed the seals and races from the hubs today. Only problem the hubs don't fit in my blasting cabinet. Going to see about getting gravity blasting gun at harbor Freight tomorrow so I don't have to fire up the big blasting pot.

swamp rat 03-23-2015 10:59 PM

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Yea i am sick of the rain and wind to say the least but am about ready to get back at it soon.

Can you order direct from these guys?? this is the brand for my D44 replacements, i didn't research a D60 tho..
http://www.yukongear.com/Spindles.aspx

Maybe just order thru someone else that can order direct? heres some links in this thread that may help?
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=129295

DWilbur 03-23-2015 11:59 PM

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I ordered the spindles from ORD this afternoon. Should have them by Thursday. I almost forgot I bought a gravity spray gun from Harbor Freight about 2 months ago and used it to spray the D60 this week end and it work good. I don't think I would use it to spray body panels as the spray pattern is a heavy top and bottom. All in all not bad for inexpensive spray gun for spraying parts.

msgross 03-24-2015 07:13 AM

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I used that gun to spray my home theater screen paint and it worked very well. For $15 or so you can't beat the quality, however i'd also be hesitant on spraying panels.

Dale_Brown 03-24-2015 08:11 AM

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What type of rear spring hangers are you using? Do they drop lower? Is this the reason you don't need the 4" block?

PS your project looks awesome!

DWilbur 03-24-2015 04:53 PM

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I installed an rear shackle flip kit from ORD and it eliminate the 4" block. my rear springs are new stock springs.

DWilbur 03-24-2015 04:56 PM

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I got a call from SRS Industrial Coating today they media blasted my cab and it is ready to pick up. Now the final body work can start on the cab. bed is in primer just need final sanding and should be ready for paint.

Dieselwrencher 03-24-2015 08:43 PM

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Nice work on the axle, and it's nice to hear your cab is moving along fairly duickly as well.

DWilbur 03-25-2015 12:23 AM

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Nice work on the axle, and it's nice to hear your cab is moving along fairly duickly as well.

Thanks for comment on the axle. My builder Sky is starting to feel his age he is about 80 years old I think he might be retiring at the end of this year it will be the 3rd time he has retired in the last 15 years. I will be lucky if I can do half of what he does if I make to 80.


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