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toplesskayfiver 12-10-2007 07:07 AM

my 1970 blazer build=4wd to 2wd
 
the first day home
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doin surgery on the blazer!!!
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toplesskayfiver 12-10-2007 07:10 AM

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2wd center hump welded in
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went to the junkyard for my rear seat (86 suburban 3rd row bench) a hammer and a chisel are much easier to lug around than a huge generator so thats what i used
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it took me 30 minutes to decide which one to use
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toplesskayfiver 12-10-2007 07:13 AM

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i even took the carpet home to help me mark the bed floor
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ready to tack in the gas door (88-98) having filler neck problems though! any suggestions???
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this is where im at. as far as the 4wd to 2wd conversion the frame is already drilled for the 2wd crossmember up front. can anyone tell me the best trailing arms to use for the rear on a 2wd conversion??? i recently found out the frames are different on a 4wd! can i use trailing arms from a longbed pick-up 2wd???
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toplesskayfiver 12-10-2007 07:59 AM

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:new::fb:

5150 12-10-2007 08:19 AM

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looking good, sorry I'm not much help on the 4wd conversion. Get with Gringoloco, he's done it and his is awesome. I've got a 91 burb 3rd row for my backseat. Looks like they are good choices.

Is it going to be topless all the time like my roadster??

71swb4x4 12-10-2007 08:23 AM

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Looks like a great project!
As far as trailing arms, they are the same length in 67-72 trucks. Long box, short box, Blazer, all the same length.

vtblazer 12-10-2007 09:12 AM

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When I did my flush mount door, I reused the stock filler pipe.
Hope the pics help.

Welcome to the board, nice project.

bouncytruck 12-10-2007 09:45 AM

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My understanding is that the trailing arms will fit, but you'll need to fabricate some shock mounts. If you plan on running airbags, you'll probably need to fabricate something anyway. LIVRAT has at lest a dozen conversions.

I believe that air ride is now making a 4-link system that is suppose to be a bolt in. I'm not sure if it is a bolt in for converted rigs though.

Rokcrln 12-10-2007 10:03 AM

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All corect! The only differance in the rear of a 4x4 to 2x4 frame is the 4x4 does not flair out were the coil springs would mount like they do on a 2x4 frame. You can simply make brackets off the side of the frame to mount them to. I think ECE just did this in one of the mags! Just found it. Sport Truck mag and it is January 08 Vol 21 pg 68-71.

Hope this helps. Nice work by the way so far.

Kevin
LFD Inc.

toplesskayfiver 12-10-2007 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by 5150 (Post 2480162)
looking good, sorry I'm not much help on the 4wd conversion. Get with Gringoloco, he's done it and his is awesome. I've got a 91 burb 3rd row for my backseat. Looks like they are good choices.

Is it going to be topless all the time like my roadster??

no i have a top in near perfect condition! how do you guys without tops plan on washing those trucks when the interior is in??? thanks for all the input so far! i will keep the progress pitures coming!

bouncytruck 12-10-2007 09:25 PM

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I've washed my truck with the top off before. It isn't that hard, just turn the water pressure down a bit so you can control it...

hotrodhomi 12-10-2007 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by bouncytruck (Post 2480950)
I've washed my truck with the top off before. It isn't that hard, just turn the water pressure down a bit so you can control it...

+1 I've washed mine a lot with the top off. Its not that hard to control the water.

Have you thought about using a four link instead of the trailing arm setup? I think that this would yield better results. Like previously mentioned Gringoloco and a few other have done this conversion. Try the search function using "conversion". Unfortunately "2wd" is too short for the search function to find. Where are you located? That thing looks familiar.

toplesskayfiver 12-11-2007 03:31 AM

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Originally Posted by hotrodhomi (Post 2481098)
Have you thought about using a four link instead of the trailing arm setup? I think that this would yield better results. Like previously mentioned Gringoloco and a few other have done this conversion. Try the search function using "conversion". Unfortunately "2wd" is too short for the search function to find. Where are you located? That thing looks familiar.


I have thought about that. The trailing arms seem to be easier, cheaper, and closer to an original 2wd!?!? Im not too familiar with how the four link works exactly? :confused: Pictures would be a big help!? This blazer was originally my uncles in the Inland Empire, California. He bought it for i think about $1500.00 back around 1994. He drove it once and just let it sit for about ten years. During those ten years; he sold the top:crazy: and moved to Colorado. Thats why the front floor pans rotted. So finally he decides to give it to me, if i go and pick it up. Because his my aunt didnt want it in their front yard anymore. So i trailered it from Colorado back to California Inland Empire.

LUV2XCLR8 12-11-2007 06:53 AM

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Looking good so far ;)

gringoloco 12-11-2007 03:28 PM

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Lookin' good. :cool:

Lemme know if you have any questions on the trailing arms. It's all bolt-in once you get it squared up and holes drilled; there's even two holes already there for the center crossmember. The only snags are the upper spring and shock mounts. You will have to fab something for the upper springs since the frame does not flare out like a 2wd. For the shocks, I just moved the original crossmember that was at the front of the leaf springs back and used it for my upper shock mounts.

Good luck -Chris

Yukon Jack 12-12-2007 09:00 AM

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Quite a project! Look forward to watching your progress.

toplesskayfiver 12-12-2007 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by gringoloco (Post 2481730)
Lookin' good. :cool:

Lemme know if you have any questions on the trailing arms. It's all bolt-in once you get it squared up and holes drilled; there's even two holes already there for the center crossmember. The only snags are the upper spring and shock mounts. You will have to fab something for the upper springs since the frame does not flare out like a 2wd. For the shocks, I just moved the original crossmember that was at the front of the leaf springs back and used it for my upper shock mounts.

Good luck -Chris



For sure that you will be one of the first to know when im installing the rear arms! thanks in advance! im trying to get longbed setup from my buddys dad as i speak.


any how, some more progress pics today!

heres the top with all kind of overspray and junk on it

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belly is getting pretty sanitary thanks to a couple of sharp scrapers, o yeah and me too:hm:

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at first i shaved the passenger side sidemarker, i found some body filler and big waves in the panel in the near end of the pluging. so i got a different piece with my trusty hammer and chisel again.. i would like to have people vote on keeping the sidemarker lights or shaving them??? :confused:


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toomanytoyz 12-12-2007 11:32 PM

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Welcome From Indiana, Look's Like You have a Good Start on your Project. I vote leave off the side Markers, I Like the Clean Look of the 67's w/out Them. Just would make Your's look a Little more Custom w/out them...........

Rick

toplesskayfiver 12-12-2007 11:49 PM

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drivers side had been hit from the bottom here somehow..
almost all better now though. still not sure what im going to do with the filler neck yet??? more pics pleeaase!!!!!!!!



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toplesskayfiver 12-13-2007 11:54 PM

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i changed my mind on the rear seat. im going to use a 95 suburban 3rd row bench. and i scored my front bucket seats out of a 96 suburban!:metal:

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hotrodhomi 12-14-2007 04:25 AM

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Are those front seat mounted? or are they just sitting in there?

toplesskayfiver 12-14-2007 09:41 AM

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just sitting there. ill post pics later today, im going to attempt to mount them!?!

hotrodhomi 12-14-2007 09:55 AM

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In the middle picture I see the mounting brackets for the suburban third row seat, did you but those or make them. I bought my seats for this conversion already. I just need to mount them.

toplesskayfiver 12-14-2007 11:28 AM

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actually i cut them out of a suburban at pick a part with a hammer and a chisel. once i got them home i grinded the sheet metal where they were spot welded to make em weak, then i pryed them apart using a hammer , a chisel and a steering linkage removal tool. i then grinded down the spot welds that were still stuck to the brackets to smoothen them out. ill post the pictures up later today! heres the donor suburban

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hotrodhomi 12-14-2007 01:01 PM

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What did they charge you at the pick n pull?

toplesskayfiver 12-14-2007 04:09 PM

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each seat was about $40.00 (each bucket, and the rear bench) and the brackets were 2.00 a piece. so i paid like $150. here's a better pic of the bracket.

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5150 12-14-2007 07:22 PM

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those are the same ones that I have for my blazer. I bought my seat from jkade and he cut the four brackets out of the floor for me. Looking forward to seeing what they look like in yours.

jmuck 12-15-2007 11:27 AM

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If you go with the 4 link you can get it to go lower b/c you don't have the frame hitting the trailing arms. It isn't any more difficult. I just converted my 4x4 to a 2wd recently. Check out the pics of the 4 link and a pic of my 4x4 to 2x4 blazer.

NTR72GMC 12-15-2007 02:56 PM

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If you go with the 4 link you can get it to go lower b/c you don't have the frame hitting the trailing arms. It isn't any more difficult. I just converted my 4x4 to a 2wd recently. Check out the pics of the 4 link and a pic of my 4x4 to 2x4 blazer.
DID YOU JUST REUSE THE 4X4 SPRING MOUNTS ON THE OUTER LINKS?

toplesskayfiver 12-15-2007 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by jmuck (Post 2486855)
If you go with the 4 link you can get it to go lower b/c you don't have the frame hitting the trailing arms. It isn't any more difficult. I just converted my 4x4 to a 2wd recently. Check out the pics of the 4 link and a pic of my 4x4 to 2x4 blazer.



that looks much harder to do than installing the factory trailing arms? is that a kit already made or is it custom? also i dont think im going to go that low.. yours looks good! a lower profile tire might look even better!!! i already got the trailing arms (thanks fleetsidepaul!), im still looking for my crossmember..

toplesskayfiver 12-15-2007 08:05 PM

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today i pretty much got my front bucket seats mounted. i still need to fill-n'-drill weld the nut brackets to the bottom of the floor. i had to customize the floor a little to make them work. i had to flatten parts of the dip in the floor pan where the two inner bolts go (on both sides), by cuting a small section and hammering it straight then welding it back together. then i drilled my holes.



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jmuck 12-16-2007 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by toplesskayfiver (Post 2487415)
that looks much harder to do than installing the factory trailing arms? is that a kit already made or is it custom? also i dont think im going to go that low.. yours looks good! a lower profile tire might look even better!!! i already got the trailing arms (thanks fleetsidepaul!), im still looking for my crossmember..

Yea if you aren't c-notching the frame it would be easier. The triangulated 4-link is a kit from suicide doors and the crossmember is custom. Suidide doors also has a universal c-notch kit. The outer bars of the 4-link attatch to the stock 4x4 spring mounts. I'm not into rubber band tires I like some rubber. Better ride and better looks. (Just my opinion)

toplesskayfiver 12-17-2007 08:00 AM

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finally got my seats mounted! whew! took forever, but they came out goood! i used the same brackets that go with the seats, once again my chisel and hammer were a big part here in getting these from the pick a part. i drilled holes and filled them with weld to hold them in place. just like the factory.



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gringoloco 12-17-2007 08:19 AM

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Seats look good. :cool: Are you gonna remove the headrests?

Here's a few pics of what I did for the fuel filler on my pickup. The same concept will work for your Blazer. I just used the late model filler and covered it all inside the bed with a Blazer filler cover. To get the neck under the bed, I cut off the stock bend and welded on a piece of pre-bent exhaust tubing from the parts store. Used fuel filler hose to connect to the tank- works like a charm...

toplesskayfiver 12-20-2007 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by gringoloco (Post 2489441)
Seats look good. :cool: Are you gonna remove the headrests?

Here's a few pics of what I did for the fuel filler on my pickup. The same concept will work for your Blazer. I just used the late model filler and covered it all inside the bed with a Blazer filler cover. To get the neck under the bed, I cut off the stock bend and welded on a piece of pre-bent exhaust tubing from the parts store. Used fuel filler hose to connect to the tank- works like a charm...

thanks! im going to keep the headrests for when the top is on, but take them off whenever the top comes off!


Thanks everyone for the gas filler neck pics, the did help! i wanted to make something 100% water proof to the interior. im really happy with the way it turned out. it took about three full work days thinking plus fabricating. the outside is still not fully welded and the back only has a few tack welds, but i am going to fully weld it still!



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toplesskayfiver 12-20-2007 08:23 PM

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NTR72GMC 01-06-2008 08:38 PM

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any thing new on this?????

LUV2XCLR8 01-07-2008 02:48 AM

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:agree:

toplesskayfiver 01-07-2008 04:06 PM

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hmm lets see, there sure is, i left off fully welding the gas filler design.


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the antenna hole got plugged.


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back seat for the most part is done as well, i still want to weld and grind from the bottom of the truck before installing the seat brackets


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toplesskayfiver 01-07-2008 04:12 PM

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my feet are near the front of the truck


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