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For those of you that've followed along on my '67 build thread, the Boy should be a familiar face. You all also know that he's poured his soul into doing the V8 swap into his 1988 S10. He did an NV3500 five speed, 11" clutch and he's got the open diff welded up. The actual conversion was completed several weeks ago but the darn thing would just never run quite right. Last Friday we finally got it sorted out. The timing set didn't get installed right and the cam was WAY advanced. That was an easy fix and the thing flat-out hustles now! Well it did. You see, I was a little worried about how juicy the thing might be, not wanting him to get hurt or anything, so I took for a spin down the road......LITERALLY. I stabbed the gas coming around the corner for home, got TOTALLY sideways, corrected to the steering stops but it was over. I ran it into the ditch hard and wiped the smile right off it's face. Toasted the whole clip and bent the frame. What a D-Bag!! Soooo I thought I'd share my attempt at redemption here. I've already worked a deal with a buddy that's got a frame rack and hope to have it on there this coming weekend. I'll be searching for sheet metal this week. Looks like I'll get my shot at a paint job before I get the C10 ready.
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Awwwww, duuuuuude... Sorry to hear it John. At least no one hurt. At least the parts are cheap. I've done 2 of them. Not too bad. Paint practice!
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Ya, lot's of donors at the local bone-yard. I can prolly get the clip and a bumper for under $150. I plan on having the insides black and the outsides in primer before we even get the frame straightened. There's a bunch of little dingers that we'll address too but at least he'll be able to drive for a while before the snow flies.
The little bugger was bummed to say the least. I was like the walking dead feeling so bad about it and he tells me "Don't worry about it Johnny. $hit happens." |
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That's a terrible feeling when you realize you've gone sideways beyond the point of NO RETURN! That's just about what happened to me the first time unhooked the ponies on my 5.3 conversion. I spun completely around in the road and never hit anything. I had to change my shorts when I got home. Lookin Good it'll be back on the road soon.
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Around here s10's are dirt cheap. Theres a little blazer for $750 right around the corner. Would prolly take 500 easy.,
For a tad bit more than what you'll spend on straightening the frame and sheet metal and all the other un-for-seens wouldn't it almost be easier to get another victim,,.?.,,er, ah.,.s10? just my .02 Toss all the goodies in the new one and Go Glad to hear ya didn't get any bumps or bruises. Projects can wait when putting family first. That is a sign of a great dad. Glad that I got to meet you. |
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If I were paying full-pop for the frame work it might be a wash. I think I'll get that work done for next to nuthin so hopefully it only sets me back a few hundred before paint and I can get it rolling in another week. If I can get it back on the road then make it shiny this winter I think he'd forgive me.
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One little mishap against all the good things. Your good!
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Appreciate you sayin that man! I scored a hood, fenders, hinges and a valance over the last couple days. My pal is "pretty sure" he'll get it on the rack for us this weekend. I'm going to clean up the shop a little and git to sandin tonight after work. Pics to follow. Still sniffin for a good bumper.
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Sandin', sandin' sandin'.... git yer butt ta sandin'....Git yer butt to sandin...tha truuuuuck....
You spun it on pavement... then you kinda ate it... Then you bent someone else's ride.... The Boy is a pissin'.... Momma ain't been kissin'.... Yer workin'... out in the garage tonight.... (To the theme from Rawhide) |
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Got that f-ucker sandid', on it's azz and branded, it's brown....
Cracks me up man! You sang that song back in the day on my build thread and it really stuck. Whenever I'm out there lookin at the heap the rhythm starts. So I got all the panels from the bone yard last week and this morning we gave them all a good scrubbing with brushes and detergent. The fenders were OG paint and I can tell ya, I got no issues leaving most of that on there. We feathered all the rock chips out, had a couple tiny filler spots and they look great. The hood was re-sprayed but nice. It was a BC/CC metallic but no question, it just peeled off as compared to the OG paint on the fenders. Boy was pretty impatient when it came to the sandin. He's like "eff it Johnny, let's paint the beotch so I can drive it!" I scrubbed my fingers to the bone then shot them with polyester primer. While that was setting up we ripped the clip off. The "good-guy" frame straightening deal went sideways but we did a bunch of measuring and the frame is good to the cross member. Looks like it's just the horns that got TWEAKED! Core support is straight and the inners are good. We're headed to the pine tree with our logging gear and a come along in the morning and will get it back where it oughtta be. I grabbed a quart of that Van Sickle tractor paint labeled "Rustic Brown". The chip looked pretty good but the way it layed out I'd liken it more towards "Dog-Shat Brown". Boy is happy so I'm happy! More updates tomorrow! Edit... We taped off the exterior of the panels. The DS Brown is just the engine compartment and door jambs. |
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Bahahahaha! Looks great guys! I've done 2 front Enders on those. The horns bend if you breathe on them. Not for nuthin, I've literally cut them off, bolted them to the bumper, mocked it up and tacked them back on. Worked like a bandit if you're good at the core support. Keep it up guys!
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You got'em. Got'em good. Mad Skillzzzzzz that iz.
In a week you'll be hangin' on while the boy teaches YOU how to take that corner. (remember video so you can learn me too) Great Job! |
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Looking good so far.
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This morning we were thinking we were geniuses! Rigged it up to the pine tree with the tractor on the other side and yanked it sideways till it was ( . )( . ) 35" OC. Hauled it back into the shop and started hanging fenders. WHOA! Core support is WAY high. We tried riggin six ways to Sunday to try and pull them horns down and just could not get them. We SCREWED the bumper brackets and finally just cut them off to be straightened back out then re-welded on later. We had a six foot, 2-1/2" pipe jammed in there and mashed down with the tractor bucket till I was worried I'd break something. Not even sure where it's really bent. Boy ain't no doctor but he's running out of patients so we put it back together best we could so he could drive it. It's driveable but it still sucks! We're taking to a profesh body shop for a quote while I lean on my "pal" for a real-deal frame alignment. Got it wrapped up just in time for chow. As soon as we got it fired I was like "you should let me drive". What a f-ukin laugh we had. I didn't drive. The thing flat-out hauls azz!!! I'm a little worried about that Boy!
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Well, worries confirmed. First day he drives the truck to school since it's run worth a damn and he gets into a smack-talkin deal with a kid driving a turbo Toyota sumthin. $10 bet results in a BIG FAT TICKET. Radar shows 105 but that was after he schmucked the Yota and they were slowing down. The Yota bolted resulting in some high-speed chase thing. Truck is parked, Wife is SPEWIN pissed and we don't know if we'll have insurance next week. To be continued, in less than a year we hope....
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Aw, maaaannnnn....... Sorry, John. At least no one got hurt. At least he got his dumbass lesson in early.
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That didn't take long.....
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John, Insurance don't know yet. Do you all have "amended" fines/penalties? Call an Atty, ask around. Mine made a 67 in a 25 and 73 in a 45 go away. Wasn't cheap, but kept the Ins. guys away.
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If he would have been here in Iowa they would take his license for a year for Drag Racing. 6 months of walking for the ticket he has there, plus SR22 insurance for 3 years. It's a hard lesson to learn but it's one you don't forget. Good luck with your insurance company, By the way I learned these lessons at the School Of Hard Knocks myself.
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There's a little twist to the story. See, back when he first got his truck he got a ticket for 10 over. They have a program here called Alive at 25. For a hundred bucks he took a class (didn't learn much) and they waived the ticket as long as he didn't get another one in 12 months. I think he's just shy. Because he stopped for the rolling lights and was cooperative, while the other knucklehead bolted, the cop cut him a little slack by not throwing the book at him. Could have been negligent or reckless, or prolly a few other things. I'll wake this thread back up once he's got his ducks in a row again. For now it's parked behind the shop.
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Glad no one got hurt. Is there a drag strip any place around?
I got it lucky here Woodburn drags are a few miles up the freeway from me. I do all my racin at the strip cause I've been there. Got a day in driving school, $2550 ticket and the judge stood up, Pointed his finger at me and said," If I so much as see you in my court room in the next 6 months you'll do a week of community service"!, "DO I MAKE MYSELF CLEAR"!!! My insurance didn't go down til I got hitched and turned 25 I had an attorney and it was money WELL spent. Get an attorney to represent. my .02 good luck |
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dang, 45 mph over...
damn kids! *smirk* I don't blame ya, I woulda parked it for him too. -W |
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Not to bring up a painful memory, but how's this workin' out, John?
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Wow. I remember following this thread back when but I forgot about it. Hadn't seen it since before the boy got his ticket. About a month after I got my license, I got a ticket for going 33mph over the limit. Since it was a "paced" ticket I tried to lie to the judge (to be fair, they didn't make me swear on the bible first), that wasn't a good idea.
"So you're telling me that my deputy, who I've been good friends with for twenty years now, lied about how fast you were going just to teach you a lesson?" "No, I'm just telling you I wasn't going that fast." In Texas, after 25mph over the limit, they can stick you with the maximum penalties allowed in every aspect, and she did with everything but jail time. $500 fine, 20 hours community service, 6 months probation, and mandatory defensive driving. When I sent in my completed defensive driving certificate and community service form after 2 and a half months with a letter explaining that I wouldn't be able to make it to my scheduled 3 months court date because I had finals, the court clerk called the next day saying the judge had decided to end my probation early and expunge the ticket from my record for my "good behavior". I guess she thought I learned my lesson. Do we ever learn our lesson? |
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He went in to explain the "circumstances" to a judge, who reduced the fine to $360 and set him up on a payment plan. He's got about a third of that paid off and I've coughed up the keys. I think the "Stupid Move" title may be a curse.
My pal didn't come through on the frame deal and I've still got that to handle. Right now there's no mounts between the rad support and the frame horns. Little bolts and pyramids of fender washers holding it all down but not much support side to side. No bumper neither, it's whacked! It's parked half the time because he can't afford to keep fuel in it. It runs well, but is really fat. He built a franken-Holley and I'm sure some tuning will help with mileage and manners. We live out of town a little bit and at least once a week I'll drive over some suspicious burnouts. There just ain't many you see that are 100% posi from scratch to scratch. The track and tire width make it obvious too. He's got a tire machine and a steady flow of take-off tires running through his shop class, so he's always got some kinda rubber on there. I see those marks on my way home from work, get home and sniff them wheel tubs out. We exchange grins - "That you?".....(Grin)....."Nah, the pup won't turnem like that!".....(Grin)....."Whatever!" I still owe him the frame repair and some basic paint. I also need to get my project back on track. Better haul some wood up to the shop!! Thanks for checkin! I'll snag a photo of some of those marks too! :chevy: |
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Interesting read.
Be glad they didn't throw the "pre-arranged drag racing" charge out there. That's a huge one here with big penalties.(Don't ask, we all make mistakes in our youth) Oh and btw, I like the nickname for the '77 K30.:metal: |
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Junior poached a big doe at 50mph on Friday night. Radiator, core support, fender, grille, hood... Took over most of the shop on Saturday fixing that mess. Not shown is the big-ass GONK in the side of his bed from the high school parking lot.
Sold his bike so he can do spindles, drop leafs and cal-tracs. He's going to do Vortec heads and intake too... Just what he needs. |
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Sweet little truck . I worked on one in high school quite a bit . For 3 different owners , same truck tho .... i guess you know where im going with this . Lol. 350 on the shelf . 2.5 4cyl back in till he "grows in to it " I going thru the same dilemma with my boy . I'd love to build him something cool but I was the mirror image of your boy in my teens . Think maby a 40 hp VW may be in his future .
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This should be called Project Punching Bag! Bummer he sold his bike.
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Chip, the truck is now called "Punching-Bag". You are a slick talker man! I saw on some other thread "The sun shines on a dog's ass once in a while.." or some $hit like that. My gawd! I laughed my ass off!
So he sold his soul (pristine CR125R - almost OCD) and ended up spending a chunk of that on some aluminum heads. Some outfit on EBay called J&E or J&C Enterprises? They claim to take the best "budget" aluminum castings and do Ma and Pa machine work with "good" valves and hardware. 64cc chambers, 2.02/1.60 (I think they even offer bigger valves but I think that'd be real risky!!) and a variety of runner cc's. He got something like 190cc runners? Glad he didn't take the bait and go biggie. Anyways, we really looked them over when they came out of the box and I gotta say they looked good. Nice looking valves, adjustable guide plates, and overall nice finish on the machine work and de-burr. We didn't take any valves apart to feel out the guides but that's his deal. He already had the thing torn down and cleaned up. Big Brown rolled up around 5:30 with the heads. After a brief inspection we went to town. Fired up about 1:30 this morning, no leaks, quick test drive, tick-tick-tick-tick... I'm not liking the adjustable guide plate / self-aligning rocker dealio he's got going there, at least the way it is now. It sounds great, hauls ass and I'll get a burnout vid. Tires are problem in this boy's life but there's cool marks on the road in front of my house. |
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Man you both have quite the story going on, very interesting:lol:. Sounds like your both learning a lot, at least you have each other. Cool build, should be killer.:thumbs:
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Was thinkin of "the boy" the other day and his new heads.
I've always wanted aluminum heads but have never pulled the trigger and bought some. Those things are Sweet Ya know, the difference between a man and a boy is the price of his toys. Someones gittin all growed up. Can't wait for the vid. |
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Right foot weighs 6 pounds more than the left. Dig it.,
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