ECE or CPP or LMC??
 

Hey fellas, I have searched for quite some time about which kit is the best. long story short i have some money i have set aside and a baby due in a month, this is probably going to be the last bit of cash i can throw at my toy for a few years but hey the wife said it was okay so atleast I wont be in the dog house over it

all in all i want to achieve a good drop (5-5) or 5-6 or so depending if i have to notch or not as well as a disk brake swap

the truck is a 1970, 1/2 ton 2wd step side. its in need of some control arms shafts and the buckets they sit in too so i want to do it all at once and hopefully they will outlast the truck

ive looked at the ECE kits
brakes are 899
drop kit is 759 or vise versa

overall your looking at around 1660.00 and that doesnt get me joints or tie rods

CPPs grand slam kit has everything that the ECE kit has minus the trac bar and the shock relocators, but also has 4 ball joints and 4 tie rods, the 2 things it doesnt have are only around 140$ to buy, but the CPP kit is 1300$, 360$ cheaper the ECE

From what ive found LMC offers 11" rotors instead of 12" and theyre stuff didnt seem as nice as that of CPP or ECE

overall are the KYB shocks that much better then those of CPP?? as well it seems that ECE uses stock OEM 63-70 Joints and tie rods and that CPP makes you replace your stock stuff with their conversion stuff, which would mean down time anytime you broke somthing while you waited for stuff from CPP

guys please feel free to correct me on any of this if i am wrong, this is just somthing ive thrown together in hopes of being steered in the right direction on this. I want somthing i can enjoy on the weekends, i dont expect to out brake a porshe but just want better stopping power then that of the drums i currently have, and the awesome stance these trucks have when they are lowered.

please feel free to leave comments about your current kit or any issues you guys have had with them i want to know as much as i can befor i order one.

also if theres any other recomended companys who make kits that are along these lines that i am missing ( i did look into POL and found there stuff to be really pricy)

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I would have to say go with the ECE stuff.
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Cpp!!
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My vote is ECE but In would guess both are good Vendors

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ECE all the way! They have higher quality components and the best customer service. I've dealt with CPP and it was a sour deal. Many here have said the same.

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so customer service wise you would say ECE, i cant see either being helpful to me in canada.

i should look into the shipping for both companys

has anyone had any experience with cpps control arms??

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ECE is what i went with originally....

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I've used Cpp stuff and am very happy with it. As far as pricing and shipping I'd check with Justin at Scott's hot rods, he's a vendor on here. He was able to get me a killer price. Quality I would say is going to be good with either kit.
Juan
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CPP's parts are second to none in quality. People seem to have problems when dealing with them directly (I never have), so try to find a vendor that carries their stuff. I believe Scott's Hotrods carries their products.

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For me ECE hands down. You might think customer service wont matter being far away, but I think that it would be even more important. These guys are easy to reach by phone and everyone knows our trucks and there products.

Once I got a trim piece and the box was dented. Sure enough the trim was bent too. After a phone call, I had the new piece the very next day! Sure I'm in the same state, but some places take 3 days just to "process" the order/return!

ECE

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Ece!

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I use CCP products, the quality is great. What little customer support I've needed was not real good.

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I think you will find that most people prefer ECE due to quality product and customer service. CPP has awesome products, but service can be hit or miss. LMC has none of the above.

Check our Suspension and Vendor marketplace before you buy. Those guys work hard to earn your business and support our forum.

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I've used them both and both have great parts. For my suspension I went with ECC and have NO regrets Plus there customer service is A1. They took the time to talk to me on the phone to be sure I got just what I was looking for. I bought there 4/6 lowering kit along with the new solid trialing arms.

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If anybody is looking for CPP parts for there trucks we have them and we have great package deals on there product line.You will get there quality parts thru us and you will deal with us on the phone.We will make sure you get the parts asap.

Justin
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There you go. :metal:

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I would go with ECE because of customer service ( even to me in Canada) I've nver heard a complaint about them on these boards and can't say that bout CPP. I was installing ECE's hidden hitch ( by myself) a few years ago and wasn't sure which frame holes to use so I called them from my garage and Stan (and I believe he is partner in the business) asked me to wait and went out and looked at a truck they had there and then told me the right holes to use, now that is service.

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Something else to remember, ECE primarily sells parts for 60-72 trucks, so they're basically experts in that particular chassis and suspension setup. CPP make alot of parts for alot of different chassis and suspensions.

CPP does make some nice stuff, but I personally, will be a long time ECE customer and supporter based on previous experience.

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opp on the cpp ,hey ho ,hands up in da air ,opp on the cpp.hey ho hey ho

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I've had good luck with quality parts from cpp and ece. The guys at ece are just fantastic people to deal with.

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I used ECE for a 72 Blazer 4/6 drop a few years ago and it worked out great and rides fantastic. Last fall I installed a 3/5 drop on a 70 pickup. I found a 71 front suspension to get discs and 5 lug. Stan told me how to run brake lines to match the discs and even which fittings I would need to use.
When the trucks came apart both times the a arms would not go full travel and all the other steering and front end components were worn. i used the ECE front rebuild kits andat the time did a little research they were the most complete. Other folks had front rebuilt kits but no a-arm dog bones etc.

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ECE, great products:metal:

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I have not done business with CPP or LMC, but ECE is close by were I work. I have gone to there place several times to get stuff, and customer service is friendly and excellent and they have answers for all of my questions.

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Dont rule out McGaughys parts .. I did a TON iof research before buying my kit and I am very impressed with the quality. It was also a bit cheaper than ECE and I upgraded to Big Brakes, front and rear. Dollar for Dollar, McGaughys is a contender too.

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ECE is also one of the only suspension companies that sells a 6" rear drop spring.
Their rear shock relocators and Super Track Bar are hard to beat.

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Hotchkis has a 2/6 drop spring option. Additionally their kit comes with adjustment to go from 5-6" rear drop by adding / removing adjustment plates.

http://www.hotchkis.net/19671972-c10...-26-drop-.html

Just something else to look at, but yes ECE seems to have to best 'All in one' kit including their customer service.

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Yes.
That's why I said one of the few.

ECE drop springs are $114.00.
http://www.earlyclassic.com/catalog.aspx

Hotchkis drop springs are $213.95.
http://www.hotchkis.net/6772-c10-rea...l-springs.html
(Maybe they are better,... I don't know)

Let me know how you like them.
I may consider them in the future.

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I understood one of the few. Just offering up another option.

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EEC all the way. lot nicer peps to talk to they will go the extra mile to help you I called at closing time and he stayed and help me with my 400 questions and was nice the whole time and the prices are about the same and the quality is better than cpp we have used the cpp stuff at my job on 4 other trucks and had problems with all 4 jobs and when you call cpp it's all your fault it's never cpp's fault they left parts out on 1 and sent the wrong spindles on 1 did not send the bolt kit on 1 and would not send the bolt kit we hade to buy the bolt kit and when I called they did not want to help so thats my 2cents on that good luck
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Well as much as you fellas can flame I think I'm going with CPP I'll find out tomorrow, I gave Justin at scotts hotrods a call, on a Saturday at 930 pm I might add and we talked for an hour or so, CPP is 300$ cheaper for what I require and then adding the control arms into the picture. Justin was great to deal with and was able to offer me a better deal then what I was originally expecting. I'll be dealing with Justin's customer service
Not that of CPP's so I'm thinking I'll have a lot better luck using him rather then CPP direct.

I'll keep you all posted on what I decide and how everything all works out :) pretty excited either way it should be a completely different truck when it's finished
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I don't think anyone will dog you for going with CPP parts. They make a great product at a fair price. Combine that with a dealer who ships out in a timely manner and you have a win/win deal

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We will talk in the morning for sure . Sunday at 5:46 pm pacific time.You have a owner of a company talking to you on a forum.I have to say that is service if you ask me .lol

Justin
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:agree:

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I am going to do a 4/6 or a 5/7 drop. I have a 69 SWB. I like the ECE full kit but I don't want to widen my front stance. Is it best to get the Modular drop spindles from CPP and then the rest of the kit from ECE? Or is there another solution?

Thanks,

Chris

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Disc brakes will widen the stance regardless of what you do. I think the CPP modular spindles aren't quite as wide, but still widen the front track width some compared to stock front drums.

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If you check out my build thread you can see the grand slam kit being installed! A few things you should be thinking about: 1)brake hoses, the ones that come with the kit were for larger brake lines I had to buy reducers so they would work on my truck. 2) have them double check the lower ball joints before they ship them, mine were the right part number but the wrong ball joint sealed in the bag. (guy at cpp said it happens a lot) 3)This kit is a conversion to 73-87 parts and again cpp sent me the wrong tie rod sleeves. Just have them double check everything because it sucks to wait on parts. Hopefully you won't have any problems with scott's hot rods!

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If you go with CPP,then buy the super trac bar and shock relocators,will the shocks be the right ones? I'm not sure. I've always bought all that together at the same time from the same place. I will say I'd take KYB shocks over any of the others. I'm like that. I have a fear of aftermarket/performance products being made for the moment,not the long haul,to satisfy the itch.I mean,I have seen far too many performance products that don't seem to last,and this is over 40 or more years of car,truck,van,4wd,and motorcycle modifying. It's like they feel a guy isn't hanging on to the vehicle long enough to matter or will change things before the part gives out. It's about the WOW factor. I stay with brands that have been around and specialize in what they do...usually "in house". KYB has been an innovator in shocks for as ling as I've been around this stuff and I know from my experience their shocks keep on keepin' on. They are shocks made by a shock company...themselves

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ECE ........no question!!

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I have dealt with both companies for parts with zero issues....

CPP is a bigger company that does alot of the stuff in house and offers a little better pricing.

I went with the ECE kit 4.5/6 with a 6 lug disc conversion and booster and it fit with zero issues....high quality

I would say that I like the ECE panhard bar better...Its just beefy and looks awesome and performs great.

I have the CPP front and rear sways and they fit great.

Customer servise I would give a slight edge to ECE

Price advantage is CPP

I think either will work with you on price if you ask and tell them your a member;):)

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I'm in the middle of dropping my LWB 72. I ordered all my parts thru Summit Racing. The parts did not come as a kit but saved me money. The parts were CPP. As far as small parts tie rod ends etc. I would use rock auto. They tell you the brand and their prices are awesome.