Official Difference btween the 396 and 402 BB Because you asked.
 

The official difference between the 396 and 402 BB according to the Feb, 1970 Chevrolet Dealers Memo

The top power option for all Chevrolets Series 1030 trucks (except the Blazer) is a big 400 V8 with 310 horsepower. It has the same power output as the 396 V8 it replaces, but it has a number of significant differences, such as:
1. Gasketless, tapered-seat spark plugs and conforming heads.
2. Throwaway-type oil filters.
3. Two-step automatic choke for better engine warm up
characteristics.

The increase in displacement was accomplished by enlarging the cylinder bore rather than lengthening the stroke. This, plus the use of a low profile inlet manifolds, keeps overall height low for more room under the hood. And remember, with this engine, you get a lot more horses under the hood than competition can offer. Here’s the way the top engine of each major make compares:
Biggest V8 & Max. Gross H.P. CHEV. 400/310 FORD 390/255 DODGE 383/258 IHC 392/236

Now you know the rest of the real story...:metal:

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Actually it was marketed by year and model and not just by the numbers.

If you read in the Motor Repair Manual for 1970 - it will say 396, marketed as a 402. Not 400 - because the 400 technically was a small block Chevrolet which came out in 1970 which was listed with 4 bolt mains and had 25 more horsepower then the LT1 350

Most truck engines smaller then 1 ton had High Performance Passenger Car cast into the blocks and heads. My buddy had one in a 1974 Chevy wrecker they bought when he was a kid.

It came with 454 rocker covers and when we went to rebuild the engine, the pistons would not fit in the bore.

When you get into Square Port vs. Oval port, you will have a heated discussion as to which was better. The last set of Oval Port heads I had, I had traded for a set of double hump SBC heads and then sold for $500.00

I probably sold them too cheap, because they were already built up, but I needed the money more then I needed another set of heads on the shelf!

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70cst,

Thanks for posting that bit of interesting information!

Jim

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Does it say why they went to a 402 instead of a 396? Not a lot of people know this...;)

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As told to me by someone who worked for GM (you won't find it in any book or brochure): The 396 blocks had a casting imperfection in the cylinders, so rather than scrap all of them, GM "fixed" the problem by punching them .030 over making it a 402.

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good to know info...hope the 396 I just bought is punched out enough...guy told me it sounded really healthy...keep your fingers crossed...:lol:

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I've heard the one about a casting defect and even a fire in an engine plant. The one that makes the most sense to me is that in 1970, Chevy introduced the 400 small block. It would not make much sense for Chevrolet to have a 396 "big" block and a 400 "small" block!

Joshua

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Yeah except that a 72 402 had 185 horse due to lower compression

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So when I go to NAPA, and they are looking up parts,,, it is either a 396 or a 402, but the side of the truck says 400!! And the SPI says L47 396 cu.in. V-8 engine
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=389526
So I go with 396,,,,

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The old IHC 392 might only show as 236hp, but I bet it has the lowest torque curve of all the engines there.

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Close but not quite right. The reason they were over bored making the 402 was because the cylinders were cast crooked. To straighten them they had to re bore them straight making them 402 instead of 396. This came from my best friends grandfather who was one of the people fixing them at the time it happened.

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Huh? That is essentially what I said...:confused: I would call "crooked" an imperfection wouldn't you?

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Well... I'm glad that is cleared up. ;) john

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There has been a story I have heard about the plant flooded causing rust issues and them needing to be bored out cause the pits (imperfections) in the cylinders. Thought thats what you were talking about. Sorry if i misforstude ya. Not a big deal now that its 40 years later anyway.

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Wow, that's a new one on me! I have not heard that before. I was referring to them being crooked as you stated. No biggie, it was 40 yrs ago. :lol: I learned something new today! :metal:

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So can anyone answer why the side of the truck says 400? And whether it would actually be a 396 or a 402? I am very interested in this answer.

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I have heard the flood thing before too, but I'm not so sure that I buy either of the "damaged" block theories.
If the bores were rusty, the rest of the block would have been too, lifter bores, main saddles, etc...
If the bores were "crooked" they would have gone back to the supplier....

They couldn't possibly have been "sitting on" that many blocks. If that really had been the case, they would have either used them and just said nothing, sent them back to be "recycled", held them as warranty replacements, etc. They would not have spent the time/money to re-bore them and create new pistons to make it happen. Plus, they would have gone back the "standard" 396 configuration when the "supply" of these "bad blocks" was exhausted.

I think the 400 in small block form was the issue. The smallest "big block" needed to be bigger. The 400 came out in the same year, coincidence?

Now why they used the 400 name badge for trucks? and 402 in cars? Who knows?

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My 70 Chevelle 402 BB had "400" on the side as well. I assumed either it was close enough, or it was for the TH400 backing the 402.

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So is the motor in the truck a 396 or 402?

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What year truck?

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1970 c10

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Of course, 1970 was the "gray" year. I think it would be a 402. 68 and 69 are 396, and 71 72 are 402. You could get the casting numbers and front pad numbers and we could try to identify it for sure.

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Oh it's not my truck, but I am curious because I have seen a few with the 400 emblem and didn't know which engine they had.

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What about with the above discussion where the spec order sheet for the 1970 reads "L47 396 CU. IN. V-8 ENG". Could that still be a 402 eventhough it reads 396.

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starting in 1970 all 396 where changed to 030 from factory to make 402.030 396 piston is same as standard bore 402.This was done due to the fact that small block 400 was introduced in 1970 and gm did not want a sb with more cubic inches than bb.I have friend who collects chevelles. he has 1969 and 1970 SS396. Both have SS396 badges both are 325 hp 1970 is 402 but has same casting # on the block and both have 290 casting closed chamber heads monte carlo man 400 sb introduced in 1970 was hi torque motor and not considered hp at the time 515 casting 4 bolt block with 265 hp. With lt1 186 casting heads and cam it will make more hp and outperform lt1 but not from the factory. lt1 was 360hp in camaro and 370 in corvette

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Originally Posted by 67/72junkie (Post 3976336) starting in 1970 all 396 where changed to 030 from factory to make 402.030 396 piston is same as standard bore 402.This was done due to the fact that small block 400 was introduced in 1970 and gm did not want a sb with more cubic inches than bb.I have friend who collects chevelles. he has 1969 and 1970 SS396. Both have SS396 badges both are 325 hp 1970 is 402 but has same casting # on the block and both have 290 casting closed chamber heads monte carlo man 400 sb introduced in 1970 was hi torque motor and not considered hp at the time 515 casting 4 bolt block with 265 hp. With lt1 186 casting heads and cam it will make more hp and outperform lt1 but not from the factory. lt1 was 360hp in camaro and 370 in corvette

Good info.
From a marketing perspection that does sound logical and makes sense.
Thanks:metal:

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I've heard that they kept badging the 402's as 396's because the 396 was so popular and people don't like change as much as 6 c.i.

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Its my understanding that for trucks...from 1970 and on they were badged 400's.

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Good point

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The "imperfections" in the blocks story sounds weird, I thought the water jackets were different.

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Mine is badged 400,,,, glove box says 396,,,, NAPA books for 70 are 402,,, I don't even want to think about going to kragens,,,,, "but our computer says...."

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That is correct, well, mostly. From the factory, all A-bodies were limited to 400ci, but outside sources weren't limited to how big of engines they installed. Hurst installed 455s in Cutlasses in '68 and '69, Yenko put 427s in Chevelles (or COPO'd them that way), and Royal was dropping 428s in GTOs. Then in 1970, the edict was lifted, and the rest is history... SS 454, GS 455, 442, and GTO all used the new CI freedom to create some of the greatest cars of the musclecar era!:metal:

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i have a 71 cheyenne super the SPID says l47 400 ci v8 and its a bigblock 402 so i am totally confused