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bollybib 10-30-2012 09:58 PM

Jim's 1976 Ford Granada
 
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I've been dinking around with this car since 1983. It was my Mom's until she passed away in 2005. I still have it and I'm still dinking around with it so I thought I'd goof around and show some of my tinkerings with it in this Alternate Tinkerings thread just for fun.

I'll post more stuff whenever I get the urge.

Thanks for looking.


bollybib 10-31-2012 11:18 AM

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Sometime around 1989 I bought this full set of service manuals at the Pomona swap meet. I think I paid something like 70 bucks for them which was pricey but they have turned out to be a good investment.

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Here are a couple of other manuals I use for reference now and again.

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bollybib 10-31-2012 12:06 PM

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I still have some of the original documentation that was included with the vehicle when new. First sold to Joseph A. Gunderman by Grant Motor Co., 2525 34th Street North, St. Petersburg, Florida 33713.

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And here is the build sheet, somewhat worse for the wear.

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bollybib 10-31-2012 12:18 PM

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A couple more pics just after a good cleaning and waxing.

NONHOG 10-31-2012 01:34 PM

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That brings back some memories. I had one (forgot the year 81 ?) it was a 302 with a 4 speed. 4th was O/D., decent car but got no respect. LOL
Traded my dad for a motorcycle. He gave it to one of my sisters who I'm pretty sure ran it out of oil.
When I got it it had a hand held (rope) cruise control. :lol: Old guy engineering. I took it off day 2.

Keeping it stock? Looks good!

bollybib 10-31-2012 05:48 PM

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Lot's of people say to me "Oh, my grandmother had one of those" or similar. I get a lot of amusement from these comments. I'm glad to hear it brings back some memories for you, too!

There were tons of these things around when they were new, they were very popular. I think most of them by now have been scrapped, I never see any on the road, and last time I rummaged through a scrapyard, I didn't see a one. They really aren't worth much now, even if they are in cherry condition (which mine isn't).

There were plenty to choose from in the junkyard in the late eighties, though. Good thing I picked up some trim pieces back then.

It's kind of a pain here in California because it still has to be smogged. But, it keeps passing so I keep driving it.

85Bowtie 11-01-2012 09:26 PM

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Throw a built 460 in that thing and make an ultimate sleeper. :metal:

I've always been interested in the mid 70's-late 80's V8 RWD cars for making a cool, stock looking, street car.

bollybib 11-01-2012 09:36 PM

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If it were a '75 and smog-exempt, I'd put a big V8 in it for sure. But, since it's a '76, it still has to be inspected and tested for smog here in California so changing it over would be a royal (bureaucratic) pain. So, a 250 CID six banger it will remain for the forseeable future.

bollybib 11-01-2012 11:58 PM

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STEERING GEAR (work done in October 2012)

The steering and front suspension have always been problematic. I have most of the invoices for work done on it in the last 30 years and many are for tires, alignment, and repair of suspension and steering components.

The steering has been an issue on this car for a long time. Upon inspection , I saw that the flexible joint at the steering gear was torn so I began by replacing it. I had to disconnect the steering column to do it. While doing this I discovered that the steering gear had a lot of slop in it and the grease was all gone, too.

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bollybib 11-01-2012 11:59 PM

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STEERING GEAR (work done in October 2012)

I was uneasy about disconnecting the ball stud and pitman arm. They can sometimes be difficult. I also read a lot of horror stories and BFH tales that didn’t help.

I bought two tools. With a little patience and a lot of care, everything came apart just like the shop manual said it would.

Harbor Freight 1752 - Tie Rod and Pitman Arm Puller (left)
OTC 7315A - Universal Tie Rod End Remover (right)
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I ordered a rebuilt steering gear from Rock Auto (a Lares rebuild) but it had damaged mounting threads on the body, so I sent it back.

What I got from Rock Auto/Lares
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Online investigation revealed a company called Red Head Steering Gears in Seattle that said they could rebuild mine. I found several threads on this site where people had good things to say about Red Head. Also, Wes at Classicheartbeat (a 67-72chevytrucks vendor) sells Red Head products, and he is a quality conscious guy. So I sent the gear off for a rebuild. The turnaround time including shipping was only a week.

http://redheadsteeringgears.com/
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When it came back from Red Head, I installed the freshly rebuilt and repainted unit with the red top. I adjusted the steering column length so the flexible coupling was flat like it is supposed to be (not warped like I found it, I think I may have fkd it up long ago !). The steering is a lot firmer now and the unpredictable drifting is absent.

The rebuilt Red Head gear with a new flexible coupling before installation.
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bollybib 11-04-2012 10:59 PM

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I finally identified the source of the thunk in the front end on turns that is coming from the vicinity the wheels. The bushings in the spring perches are worn and they are shifting on their shafts. So, new ones should fix it (pricey little devils from NAPA) but same as 64-73 Mustang and many others so easy to find.

I was unable to see the problem until I removed a coil spring and found I could easily slide the perch bracket back and forth an eighth of an inch or so by hand.

bollybib 11-06-2012 10:18 PM

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So, while I'm waiting for the perches, I moved on to another problem, the leaking front seal. What a mess. That's what I get for ignoring it this long. Oh well.

Anyway, here are a few pics of what I've been up to.



Radiator after removal. Looks like the cats have been here.
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Lots of black gooey stuff down here.
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I wonder if this is what was making all the mess ?
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Looks like repair sleeve time on this balancer.
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I cleaned up the crossmember and some other stuff forward of the engine. Next I'll clean around the timing cover and oil pan before I remove them.
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bollybib 11-06-2012 10:29 PM

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Here's a question for anyone that might be looking.

I'm considering using this Felpro gasket set that includes a repair sleeve.

http://www.fme-cat.com/PartDetailWin... VIN L&t=&vin=

The repair sleeve requires this tool:

http://www.fme-cat.com/PartDetailWin... VIN L&t=&vin=

I have been unable to find any information on how this tool is supposed to be used. I've noticed that Felpro is rather stingy on detailed how-to info. This thing looks like an expensive washer in all the pics I could find. Couldn't I just press the sleeve home with some flat stock ? Is the tool worth 30 bucks ???

I'll hold my breath until someone responds...............................

chevybuldr 11-06-2012 10:47 PM

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yes just some flat stock and go slow. they are very thin and can damage easy. They should only be like 3 or 4 bucks.

bollybib 11-06-2012 11:03 PM

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Oh good, i can breathe again haha.

Seriously, i wonder why the Felpro tool is so pricey ???

I used a Timken sleeve on my truck and it came with an installation tool. The sleeve had a flange on it that the tool pressed against to slide it on to the damper.

It doesn't look like the Felpro sleeves have a flange. Their pictures suck. They are only in one dimension, from above. No side views so wtf you are getting is anyones guess.

Lippyp 11-07-2012 05:43 AM

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Now this is what we call a 1976 Ford Granada over this side of the atlantic.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y29...76granada2.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y29...ranada0010.jpg

bollybib 11-07-2012 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Lippyp (Post 5689979)
Now this is what we call a 1976 Ford Granada over this side of the atlantic.

Yes, I've seen those Granadas before. I don't recall ever having seen one in person here in the US though. It can cause some frustration when searching for information online, the search engines can't tell one Granada from another. Maybe that's why the Granada specific site here in US is called http://americangranada.com/ !

bollybib 11-07-2012 11:48 AM

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So I decided to go for the complete Fel-pro deal, including the installation tool. I found the best price for the timing cover and oil pan gasket sets at RockAuto, and the best price for the repair sleeve installation tool at Summit. While I'm waiting for the parts, I'll clean up the mess around the timing cover and all the crap that was blown back along the bottom of the engine and elsewhere. Then I'll jack up the motor a bit and remove the oil pan, then the timing cover, then clean the gasket surfaces. I'll see what the timing chain looks like, too. That should keep me busy for a while.

Timing cover set w/ sleeve - TCS45660
Oil pan gasket set - OS30217C
Tool for sleeve - 16310

Looks like NAPA is cancelling my spring perch order, they don't carry it or ran out or something. I tried ordering them both at the counter and online. Looks like I'll have to move on to Plan B.

bollybib 11-07-2012 10:11 PM

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oh wow i just noticed . . . it has been two years today that I joined this great Board !

bollybib 11-08-2012 06:28 PM

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The last couple of days I've been getting godawful greasy dirty cleaning all the oily mess blown back from the front of the engine. But now everything looks Ford blue again, not totally black. I got the timing cover and balancer off and checked the timing chain play. It was within a tenth of an inch of being over spec so I decided to replace it, too.

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I found a Cloyes timing set on sale as a clearance item at Rock Auto for only $11.42 + $9.20 S&H. Not bad.

I still have to get the oil pan off and then I'll spend some time cleaning gasket surfaces. By the time they are clean I should have all my parts on hand.

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bollybib 11-17-2012 12:00 AM

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I just came back from a one week trip to Monterey. The weather was perfect, warm and sunny. It was nice to get away from working on car stuff.

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Today I got back into it. I cleaned and painted the timing cover and water pump. I also cleaned a few more gasket surfaces on the engine. All my parts are here now, too.

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caminokid 11-18-2012 11:25 PM

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I had one of these. I want to say it was a 76. 302 auto. Blew the damn thing up one night while racing a Maverick. Lost oil pressure and that was it. Being the Chevy minded person I am....I slapped a 454 with a stick in it. Spent 3 months in junk yards looking for a pedal set up for it. Drove it twice and sold it. The guy with the Maverick couldnt catch it. So he offered to buy it.

Tx Firefighter 11-19-2012 02:50 PM

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The Post Office took a beating on that deal. Flat Rate for a steering gear box.

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/a...5&d=1351827584

Well played.

bollybib 11-19-2012 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Tx Firefighter (Post 5711045)
The Post Office took a beating on that deal. Flat Rate for a steering gear box.

I'm afraid I can't take credit for this idea. KrazyRay in the Parts Board shipped me an A6 compressor this way so I did the same for the gear. As long as it will fit into the box and it isn't over 70 lbs., it's good to go!

bollybib 11-19-2012 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by caminokid (Post 5710055)
I had one of these. I want to say it was a 76. 302 auto. Blew the damn thing up one night while racing a Maverick. Lost oil pressure and that was it. Being the Chevy minded person I am....I slapped a 454 with a stick in it. Spent 3 months in junk yards looking for a pedal set up for it. Drove it twice and sold it. The guy with the Maverick couldnt catch it. So he offered to buy it.

Cool. I would have liked to have seen that ! Got any pics of it ?

Palf70Step 11-20-2012 09:51 AM

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Nice little project. I had the Mercury version, the Monarch...an 80 4 door. Ugly as sin (to me) but it hauled the family for a few years. Mine was just a six though.

bollybib 11-20-2012 06:26 PM

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Car work is like painting, most of the work is prep work. At last I've begun reassembly and am having fun again !


This is the tool to install the Sleeve 'n' Seal. You could probably install the sleeve without the tool, but after using it, I was glad I bought it. This way I knew that the sleeve was being pressed on without any distortion.
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Here is what I used to install the sleeve. The sleeve is secured with Fel Pro's Pro Lock II that is included in the timing cover gasket kit. I used the bolt, nut and washers to pull the tool on to the damper snout (similar to the operation of a damper installation tool).
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The groove on the damper snout is quite apparent in this pic. I cleaned the circumference with 1500 grit wet/dry paper and wiped it clean with acetone before I installed the sleeve.
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Here I am pressing the sleeve on to the snout. I first coated the damper snout and the inside of the sleeve with the Pro Lock II.
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And there you have it. The sleeve only covers the inner groove where the wear is worst.
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Next, installing the new timing gear set.

bollybib 11-20-2012 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Palf70Step (Post 5712495)
Nice little project. I had the Mercury version, the Monarch...an 80 4 door. Ugly as sin (to me) but it hauled the family for a few years. Mine was just a six though.

I agree, the four-doors didn't have nice lines like the two-doors.

BTW, mine is a six, 250 cubic inches @ 88 hp net !

bollybib 11-20-2012 08:57 PM

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I had more ambition today than I thought. I got the gear set in. It's a pretty easy job. I had to rotate the cam slightly to mate with the aligned gears and new chain.



I put Loctite on the cam bolt and torqued to 45 ftlb.
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Alignment marks are good. A pic like this can be useful later to verify that the alignment was done properly. Compare this with the old chain in Post #20, it's amazing how much they stretch over time. The old one had about 50,000 miles or so on it.
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All done with the slinger on, too.
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Next up, the timing cover.

bollybib 11-21-2012 11:28 AM

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I've had a lifelong interest in "the-fundamentals-of" and "how-to" types of books. While reading up on gasket installation for my Granada project, I stumbled across this one on amazon.com for less than five bucks (including shipping). It is very comprehensive and is much handier than searching all over the internet for this info.


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OK, that was a fun early morning post. I think I'm gonna go check the surf now.

LEEVON 11-21-2012 04:55 PM

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So when are you going to start the LSx swap?

bollybib 11-21-2012 10:06 PM

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So when are you going to start the LSx swap?

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That is a very good question - one to which I have considered numerous answers, all of which contain the word “Never !”. It would be an awesome feat to put an engine like that in Grandma’s Granada, no doubt.

My Granada is still considered a pollution controlled vehicle in California and it is regulated accordingly. I suppose an engine swap could be done given adequate time, money, and motivation. Legal and political savvy would help, too.

Take a gander at this, it is only the tip of the iceberg.

http://www.bar.ca.gov/80_BARResource...uidelines.html

Swapping the engine of my choice into this potential sleeper would be free of government interference if the Granada were only one model year older, 1975.

bollybib 11-22-2012 10:30 AM

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Cover with new seal is back on now. I used the damper to align the cover before torquing it down.
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I cleaned up the timing tab so I can see wtf I'm doing now timing wise.
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Next up, the oil pan.

Oh wait, today is Thanksgiving so next up is turkey and dressing !
Happy Thanksgiving, everyone !
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(the oil pan is on deck)

Tx Firefighter 11-22-2012 10:53 AM

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I've been watching this thread out of respect for your work ethic and craftsmanship. Then I noticed your build thread link on your signature and realized that your truck build thread is another of my favorites on here. You do damn good work whether Chevy orange or Ford blue.
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bollybib 11-23-2012 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Tx Firefighter (Post 5716402)
I've been watching this thread out of respect for your work ethic and craftsmanship. Then I noticed your build thread link on your signature and realized that your truck build thread is another of my favorites on here. You do damn good work whether Chevy orange or Ford blue.
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Thanks. My incentive is that these two cars are my basic transportation so I need to keep them in good running order. The 76 Granada is the newest car I own !

bollybib 11-23-2012 03:18 PM

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Here is a pic taken back in '06. I used this car for almost daily dawn patrols at El Porto for several years. There are quite a few classic car buffs that surf there. Everyone seemed to get a lot of enjoyment out of seeing it transport my 10'0" Tyler. The wood racks were given to me by a friend, I refurbished and modified them a bit to carry my board.


caminokid 11-24-2012 03:46 AM

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Originally Posted by bollybib (Post 5711208)
Cool. I would have liked to have seen that ! Got any pics of it ?

I would have liked to have pics of that one. That was back in the 80's when I did that. I was motor swapping fool back then.

bollybib 11-24-2012 11:29 AM

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I don't think our interests change a whole lot over the years but the time and effort we spend on certain activities surely does.

I've been rummaging around my digital archives and found this one taken on Thanksgiving day a few years back at my sister's house.


bollybib 01-06-2013 10:45 PM

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The transmission extension housing seal was leaking so I decided to try and replace it myself. Getting the old seal out wasn't much of a problem. Unfortunately, I was unable to lift the vehicle high enough to get an adequate swing so I could drive the new seal home.

After some thought, I made an installer tool using three bolts, a hose clamp, a fabricated piece of plywood, and the seal installer. It worked quite well.

The installer on the left is store-bought and designed to hold the seal while tapping it in with a hammer. I fabricated the collar on the right with a piece of 3/4" plywood.
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The bolt heads are held securely against the transmission housing with the hose clamp. The orange color is the seal. By sequentially tightening the nuts, the seal is slowly and evenly pushed into the extension housing.
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bollybib 08-25-2017 08:01 PM

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I haven't posted here in a long, long time. However, this afternoon I was doing absolutely nothing and I thought I'd post these pics (the date was set incorrectly on my camera for the first two pics).

A while back I was perusing 1976 Ford Granada sales literature and saw that styled steel wheels were an option that year. I thought they looked pretty cool so I started looking for parts.

I found two wheels on eBay that came from a salvage yard in Minnesota. Two other wheels I found locally. The trim rings came from a Cougar restoration business (they were used on early 70s Cougars apparently). Two center caps are used from eBay and the other two are NOS from Green Sales. Nothing is perfect so they all fit in nicely with the car as-is.

I derusted the wheels in Evaporust and did all the masking and painting myself. The only aftermarket parts are the lugnuts, everything else is OG Ford.

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It doesn't look so much like mom's car now :lol:

Here is a wheel getting derusted:

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I also found a set of NOS rocker panel moldings that I haven't put on yet. I'll get around to it sooner or later I suppose.


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