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Green Monster 02-25-2018 11:54 PM

OE LED Jeep Wrangler Headlights?
 
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Have you considered installing a 2017-2018 factory OE LED headlight (bottom image in this post) from a Jeep Wrangler?

An observer might mistake these modern technology LED headlights as traditional headlights. They might look good on a classic vehicle providing a conservative look with improved modern lighting technology without detracting from the look of a classic vehicle. Most aftermaket LED headlights designed for Jeeps are blacked out or have projecotor lenses that dont quite look right on classic vehicles.

These LED headlights can be purchased for $200 per unit, used, on ebay so for $400 you could potentially upgrade to modern lighting and keep the classic look.

I've already replaced my headlights with H4 Hella sealed beam conversion headlights (1st and 4th images) but below is my attempt at seeing what OE Wrangler headlights (2nd and 4th images) might look like

What are your thoughts on putting Jeep Headlights on a classic ?

Lieferson 02-26-2018 11:09 AM

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IMO, the Hella H4 conversion housings with an LED H4 bulb in them is the best bang for your buck to maintain the classic look and have bright headlights.

Green Monster 02-26-2018 03:41 PM

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I agree. Honestly, for only $70, I could not ask for the Hella H4 sealed beam conversion to perform any better. The beam pattern is wide witwithout noticable hot spots. It has a sharp cut off and like HID projectors headlights.

Still though, it would be nice to have modern LED headlight technology without the trendy look.

I'll stick with the Hellas for a while.

SeventyOne 02-26-2018 03:54 PM

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Can you link to the Hella lights you use? Are you running the upgraded wiring harness with relays?

Green Monster 02-26-2018 06:04 PM

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I purchased the Hella headlights (002395801) and wire harness with relays upgrade from Amazon. I have not installed the harness yet but will when the weather warms up.


https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B001G...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B06XH...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

SeventyOne 02-26-2018 06:17 PM

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thanks for posting. Wow the painless relay kit is $190. That's quite the price variance...

https://buypainless.com/products/30815?

Green Monster 02-26-2018 06:28 PM

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Ouch! $190? Not so painless on the wallet.

$22.50 is much easier to swallow.

GMC-YA68 02-26-2018 06:48 PM

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I like the look of them. As long as they don't have color changing halo rings and stuff like that!!! haha

SeventyOne 02-26-2018 07:21 PM

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I also saw someone linking to this harness for the relay upgrade:

http://www.madelectrical.com/catalog/rly-1.shtml

Spf79 02-27-2018 03:32 AM

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Good information, this is on my to do list, thank you all for posting up the links. I like the looks of the H4 sealed beams the best.


Question...
Are the h4 bulbs just as bright as the HID set up?
My night vision has progressively gotten worse in the last couple of years, so I'm looking for the best option where I can see and not blind oncoming traffic.

Just curious for your opinions, thank you.

Green Monster 02-27-2018 09:58 AM

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I'm with you... my vision certainly isn't getting any better.

The Hella H4 setup is a significant improvement to the Sylvania Silverstar sealed beam (6024) that I had previously, IMO. Hella is not US DOT approved and I've read that this is because headlights are designed for European (left hand drive vehicles/right side of the road like US) with a sharp cutoff. Further down road lighting is almost non existent so it's imperative that you aim these headlights properly and use you high beams whenever oncoming drivers are not visible.

The color and performace is not as bright white as HID or LED headlights but much still whiter and brighter than standard halogen sealed beam headlights.

Overall, I am impressed with the performance if the Hellas, especially for the price.

Richard2112 02-27-2018 10:55 AM

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Interesting upgrade. Great idea.

Lieferson 02-27-2018 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Spf79 (Post 8198688)
Good information, this is on my to do list, thank you all for posting up the links. I like the looks of the H4 sealed beams the best.


Question...
Are the h4 bulbs just as bright as the HID set up?
My night vision has progressively gotten worse in the last couple of years, so I'm looking for the best option where I can see and not blind oncoming traffic.

Just curious for your opinions, thank you.

I took the Hella conversion housing and replaced the bulbs with an H4 LED bulb off of Amazon. It made a huge difference in brightness. This photo is a comparison of the factory headlamp vs. a hella conversion housing with an H4 HID set up. I later switched to an LED bulb because i didnt like the "Flicker" effect of the cheap HIDs

Green Monster 02-27-2018 01:10 PM

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Curious.. do you still get the sharp cutoff with the LED low beams, like that of a halogen in this housing?

Lieferson 02-27-2018 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Green Monster (Post 8198924)
Curious.. do you still get the sharp cutoff with the LED low beams, like that of a halogen in this housing?

Yep, the bulbs have LEDs on all sides just like a halogen, wont be perfect like the halogen but its 10X brighter

mister.freeze 02-27-2018 05:23 PM

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My conversion cost less than $100:
Projector housings with halos (your choice of color) $35
H4 LED’s $35
Custom LED circuits to make the halos into DRL/turn signals FREE (Xmas present)
Done. All on Amazon.

Spf79 02-27-2018 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Green Monster (Post 8198775)
I'm with you... my vision certainly isn't getting any better.

The Hella H4 setup is a significant improvement to the Sylvania Silverstar sealed beam (6024) that I had previously, IMO. Hella is not US DOT approved and I've read that this is because headlights are designed for European (left hand drive vehicles/right side of the road like US) with a sharp cutoff. Further down road lighting is almost non existent so it's imperative that you aim these headlights properly and use you high beams whenever oncoming drivers are not visible.

The color and performace is not as bright white as HID or LED headlights but much still whiter and brighter than standard halogen sealed beam headlights.

Overall, I am impressed with the performance if the Hellas, especially for the price.

Great! Thank you for the insight, extremely helpful!

Spf79 02-27-2018 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Lieferson (Post 8198824)
I took the Hella conversion housing and replaced the bulbs with an H4 LED bulb off of Amazon. It made a huge difference in brightness. This photo is a comparison of the factory headlamp vs. a hella conversion housing with an H4 HID set up. I later switched to an LED bulb because i didnt like the "Flicker" effect of the cheap HIDs

Awesome, thank you. I am a little ways out from headlight instalation... but I am thinking LED is the way to go. I ran some cheap HID conversion set up in another project and was not happy with it. I hope LED is the answer for me.

Have a good week!

mister.freeze 02-27-2018 08:29 PM

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The LED light quality is very different. I’ve had Halogens and HID’s. We all know what Halogens are like, and HID is better, but the LED light seems to illuminate better and doesn’t so much shine as it glows. It’s almost as if things light up with their own light and reflections aren’t nearly as harsh. I find it easier on my aging eyes to see more. To me, it’s akin to how things can be easier to see under bright moonlight than a powerful flashlight.

Green Monster 04-21-2018 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Green Monster (Post 8198193)
I purchased the Hella headlights (002395801) and wire harness with relays upgrade from Amazon. I have not installed the harness yet but will when the weather warms up.


https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B001G...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B06XH...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

This is an update for anyone considering this $25 headlight harness from Amazon with relays designed to improve lighting.

I installed it yesterday afternoon and it was plug and play- no cutting, no crimping and no soldering. The universal harness with relays was exactly the right length as if it was designed specifically for a 72 Blazer. The ceramic female connectors for plugging into the headlights was a nice surprise upgrade over my expectation of original plastic style connectors. This will help prevent the harness from deforming due to heat. The wire harness was easy to hide allowing me to maintain a stock engine bay appearance. The H4 conversion headlights stay nice and bright, even at idle.

A drastic improvement over the Sylvania Silverstar that I had to keep replacing frequently. The $92 spent on this harness and Hella H4 conversation was worth every penny.

hemi43 04-21-2018 11:05 AM

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Be glad you're not building a truck in Canada. Here's the prices we have to pay plus 13% sales tax. Can anyone get me a green card? LOL

https://www.tdotperformance.ca/catal...LLA+002395801+

stangtjk 04-21-2018 11:46 PM

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Don't see where anyone commented on using the OEM Jeep headlights.... I didn't go OEM but I did install a set of aftermarket Jeep headlights.

They will not fit in the stock headlight buckets. I tried trimming the headlight buckets to make them fit but it was a lost cause...... No way to aim them properly after that. Not one to give up I decided to ditch the stock headlight buckets and picked up some aftermarket mounting rings that are made to mount the Wrangler headlights into a Harley. Had to drill a few holes in the core support and make some spacers but I got them mounted. They plugged in and worked fine with no special wiring or relays other than hooking up the halos.


I assume the OEM Jeep headlights are similar as far as mounting goes.

Green Monster 04-23-2018 10:50 PM

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Stangtjk- Thank you for providing a response. Looks like quite a bit of effort went onto installing those lights. Looks great!

Just curious, were you eventually able to get the trim bezel to fit around the new headlights? The bezel appears to not be installed in the photos you provided.

stangtjk 04-23-2018 11:19 PM

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The bezels fit fine just didn't have them on.

Green Monster 07-25-2019 04:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Lieferson (Post 8198824)
I took the Hella conversion housing and replaced the bulbs with an H4 LED bulb off of Amazon. It made a huge difference in brightness. This photo is a comparison of the factory headlamp vs. a hella conversion housing with an H4 HID set up. I later switched to an LED bulb because i didnt like the "Flicker" effect of the cheap HIDs

It has been a while so here is an update this thread. The LED bulbs replaced the halogen H4 in the Hella H4 conversion housings and the results we amazing. The headlights appear stock during the day but at night they provide ample light with a sharp cutoff as Lieferson explained in an earlier post.


As nice as the stock Jeep headlights, the Hella housing with an H4 LED is a great upgrade while maintaining a stock appearance during the day.

1st photo is with high beam.
2nd photo is with low beam.
3rd photo shows beam pattern on the garage door with sharp cutoff. (The last photo is prior to changing the out the dash lights with Yorkim white LED 194 bulbs.)

Green Monster 07-25-2019 05:03 AM

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https://www.superbrightleds.com/more...set/4442/9993/

This is the bulb that was used.

DeadheadNM 07-25-2019 01:50 PM

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Nice upgrade. Are the instrument cluster LEDs able to be dimmed?

Green Monster 07-25-2019 04:52 PM

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The LEDs are from Yorkim and run about $10 for 10 bulbs.

https://www.amazon.com/Yorkim-Genera.../dp/B00JRE38EA

The LEDs in the dash will dim but will shut off when attempting to dim them really low. There are still two incandescent light bulbs controlled on circuit by the dimmer switch (gear selector on tilt wheel and 2. bulb in 12V source (cigar lighter) so that additional resistance load may have an impact but I can't say for certain.

To help answer your question, here is a video of my LED dash lights being dimmed.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/GwhNJsoS7zn11twW8

Hope this helps.

DeadheadNM 07-25-2019 06:42 PM

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It does. Thank you.

PDXk5 07-28-2019 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Green Monster (Post 8564870)
The LEDs are from Yorkim and run about $10 for 10 bulbs.

https://www.amazon.com/Yorkim-Genera.../dp/B00JRE38EA

The LEDs in the dash will dim but will shut off when attempting to dim them really low. There are still two incandescent light bulbs controlled on circuit by the dimmer switch (gear selector on tilt wheel and 2. bulb in 12V source (cigar lighter) so that additional resistance load may have an impact but I can't say for certain.
To help answer your question, here is a video of my LED dash lights being dimmed.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/GwhNJsoS7zn11twW8

Hope this helps.

The brightness is good, the dimming is fantastic! I didn’t think LEDs would dim without a rehostat or PWM. Hmm. I wonder how I can make the dimming work in my application? I have a manual, so no gear selector light. I have a light for the cigar lighter but I thought that was on a different circuit.

chewychevy67 12-04-2020 12:18 AM

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I just read the reviews on the yorkim bulbs. Just curious how yours are holding up? Still work properly green monster? Also after a year how are the headlights? I may possibly buy these if yours are still holding up.

Green Monster 12-04-2020 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by chewychevy67 (Post 8844608)
I just read the reviews on the yorkim bulbs. Just curious how yours are holding up? Still work properly green monster? Also after a year how are the headlights? I may possibly buy these if yours are still holding up.

Chewy,

I love the headlights. I was skeptical that using LEDs in reflector housings would not blind other drivers. We've all seen it and it is obnoxious and unsafe when the wrong LEDs are used. The diodes need to match the tungsten filament location on the outgoing halogen bulb.

I have not a single complaint about the headlight combination. The biggest benefit is being able to see animals. Eyes on deer and other small animal in my area reflect back with a bright sparkle up to a half-mile away giving me plenty of advance warning.

I have never been flashed by other drivers using these lights. The beam pattern is aimed properly, controlled and not sprayed.

The Yorkim 194s in the dash are still holding up perfectly. No flicker and still dimmable.

chewychevy67 12-04-2020 08:20 AM

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Thanks for the update. I will probably pick these up.

ngnaz 12-04-2020 02:50 PM

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I will never spend $400 on headlights!~

Green Monster 12-05-2020 04:55 AM

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I agree $400 for Jeep Wrangler headlights is a bit much and they really don't look that great in the photoshopped image in post № 1 IMO.

The classic look of glass Hella housings with H4 replaceable bulb upgraded with H4 LEDs and wire harness for $190 was a better option for me.

It took a little more effort to create this combination but the outcome was exactly what I wanted; unmodified appearance and improved lighting without blinding oncoming drivers.

chewychevy67 12-05-2020 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Green Monster (Post 8844636)
Chewy,

I love the headlights. I was skeptical that using LEDs in reflector housings would not blind other drivers. We've all seen it and it is obnoxious and unsafe when the wrong LEDs are used. The diodes need to match the tungsten filament location on the outgoing halogen bulb.

I have not a single complaint about the headlight combination. The biggest benefit is being able to see animals. Eyes on deer and other small animal in my area reflect back with a bright sparkle up to a half-mile away giving me plenty of advance warning.

I have never been flashed by other drivers using these lights. The beam pattern is aimed properly, controlled and not sprayed.

The Yorkim 194s in the dash are still holding up perfectly. No flicker and still dimmable.

Just curiud if you used One of the yellow or blue filters provided on your headlights?

Green Monster 12-05-2020 03:04 PM

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I installed the H4 LEDs without filters and they looked perfect to me- WHITE with an ever so slight hint of blue.

I didn't play around with the filters but the yellow filter would probably tone them down for a more traditional look and the blue would probably look appropriate in an import sport sedan.

chewychevy67 12-06-2020 11:21 AM

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Ok it didn't look like you used the filters. Thanks for the feedback.


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