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lyrikz 09-09-2008 12:19 PM

Airbaggers. Where are you putting your tanks?
 
I have a 71 swb stepside with the fuel tank in the rear. Where are you airbaggers putting your airtank. I dont want to put it in the back of the bed, i want it underneath somewhere...

Im thinking of putting it inbetween the cab mounts on the outside of the frame.. Would that fit?? There is 35 inches between the cab mounts. the diameter of the tank is about 10 inches.... Anyone done this before???

basically putting it here, on the outside of the frame rail.. I dont have the cab on so i cant really get an accurate measurement...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...d/DSC08464.jpg


I was also thinking of using 2 5gallon tanks but the suicidedoor guy said that it would be best to run 1 8 gallon tank.... Thats a tough spot to find some room for..

umwtnt 09-09-2008 12:49 PM

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Hey lyrikc, I can't answer your question yet because I have not gotten my air tank. But, I would like to thank you for the picture because I have been trying to figure out where to install my mufflers and I believe you have given me my answer. I am running the big 70 series flowmasters, Initially measurement indicate I may be able to install them like you have. If I had the measurements of a five gallon tank I could measure under neath my cab, on the outside of the frame rails, and see if the tank would fit. My cab is currently set in place.

lyrikz 09-09-2008 01:22 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by umwtnt (Post 2882736)
Hey lyrikc, I can't answer your question yet because I have not gotten my air tank. But, I would like to thank you for the picture because I have been trying to figure out where to install my mufflers and I believe you have given me my answer. I am running the big 70 series flowmasters, Initially measurement indicate I may be able to install them like you have. If I had the measurements of a five gallon tank I could measure under neath my cab, on the outside of the frame rails, and see if the tank would fit. My cab is currently set in place.

The tanks dimensions are
Specs:
Length - 32"
Diameter - 9.5"
Height with legs - 11.5"

Let me know sir... Let me know the measurements of your muffler i might be able to take a measurement for you.

jorgensensc 09-09-2008 01:43 PM

Re: Airbaggers. Where are you putting your tanks?
 
HA! Don't you remember me asking the same thing? I never did find a good place to mount my 1 gallon tank. I can't imagine mounting something bigger than that. It wouldn't fit anywhere along the frame rails without hanging lower where you would see it. The only spot I could find was behind the rear wheels in the fender area mounted to the frame. But them you have a big tank that you can see in the wheel wells. Good luck to you. I am just going to end up doing a static drop in the rear. I will be putting the air bags on the burb, along with the hidden reciever. I will just use that to tow with. After all, it does have the big block! For now! HAhA
Shawn

lyrikz 09-09-2008 02:05 PM

Re: Airbaggers. Where are you putting your tanks?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jorgensensc (Post 2882773)
HA! Don't you remember me asking the same thing? I never did find a good place to mount my 1 gallon tank. I can't imagine mounting something bigger than that. It wouldn't fit anywhere along the frame rails without hanging lower where you would see it. The only spot I could find was behind the rear wheels in the fender area mounted to the frame. But them you have a big tank that you can see in the wheel wells. Good luck to you. I am just going to end up doing a static drop in the rear. I will be putting the air bags on the burb, along with the hidden reciever. I will just use that to tow with. After all, it does have the big block! For now! HAhA
Shawn

crap.. i dont want you to be able to see the tank. :( guess i can just run it in the bed... iddnt want to though.

c10addict 09-09-2008 02:51 PM

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I mounted my 2 3 gallon tanks between the two rear most crossmembers..

lyrikz 09-09-2008 02:55 PM

Re: Airbaggers. Where are you putting your tanks?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by c10addict (Post 2882836)
I mounted my 2 3 gallon tanks between the two rear most crossmembers..

You have your gastank in the stock location? I have my gas tank back there.. Im sure i will find a place somewhere...

c10addict 09-09-2008 03:03 PM

Re: Airbaggers. Where are you putting your tanks?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lyrikz (Post 2882840)
You have your gastank in the stock location? I have my gas tank back there.. Im sure i will find a place somewhere...

Yep I sure do... Sorry... :lol:

kevncar 09-09-2008 03:41 PM

Re: Airbaggers. Where are you putting your tanks?
 
is this a stepside issue? I hadn't really taken any measurements yet but had planned on running a 5 gallon tank on the outside of the framerails under the bed just in front of the rear wheels on my SWB.

lyrikz 09-09-2008 03:42 PM

Re: Airbaggers. Where are you putting your tanks?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kevncar (Post 2882886)
is this a stepside issue? I hadn't really taken any measurements yet but had planned on running a 5 gallon tank on the outside of the framerails under the bed just in front of the rear wheels on my SWB.

Ya... absolutely....

I found a thin 5 gallon tank... I have a mock up of its so im going to see how well it sits on the frame.... Im hoping it works out ok.. that would be nice have 2 5 gallon tanks on the outside fram rails...

lowriden58 09-09-2008 04:13 PM

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another thing to consider is air compressors, how many? what size? if you go with a big tank(s) and only have 1 or 2 small compressors it will kill the performance and the life of the compressors.

just and FYI i had 4 viair 480s with a 12gallon.

lyrikz 09-09-2008 04:19 PM

Re: Airbaggers. Where are you putting your tanks?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lowriden58 (Post 2882911)
another thing to consider is air compressors, how many? what size? if you go with a big tank(s) and only have 1 or 2 small compressors it will kill the performance and the life of the compressors.

just and FYI i had 4 viair 480s with a 12gallon.

i planned on running two viar 400s or 420s whatever the number is, and two 5 gallon tanks. Im going to connect the two tanks.. BUTTT before i do anything im just running the rears first, then adding the fronts later....

So basically a 420ish compressor and a 5 gallon tank.... Then later down the road another 420ish compressor and another 5 gallon tank... Whats your thoughts on that????

lowriden58 09-09-2008 04:32 PM

Re: Airbaggers. Where are you putting your tanks?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lyrikz (Post 2882916)
i planned on running two viar 400s or 420s whatever the number is, and two 5 gallon tanks. Im going to connect the two tanks.. BUTTT before i do anything im just running the rears first, then adding the fronts later....

So basically a 420ish compressor and a 5 gallon tank.... Then later down the road another 420ish compressor and another 5 gallon tank... Whats your thoughts on that????

i honestly would get the Dual 480 pack from SSD. you will save $$ in the long run. the 400 & 450 are not as efficent as the 480. i believe they also have a 1/4" leader hose vs the 3/8" leader hose on the 480. 480 is a 200psi rated comp, 400/450 are rated 150psi. also IMO the good rule of thumb for comp/tank ratio is 3gal per comp.

fastom 09-09-2008 05:22 PM

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Would a 3 gallon tank and one compressor work on a front/rear system? I was going to run that way but after reading this post I'm confused.

I'm not looking for a fast system.

lyrikz 09-09-2008 05:29 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lowriden58 (Post 2882923)
i honestly would get the Dual 480 pack from SSD. you will save $$ in the long run. the 400 & 450 are not as efficent as the 480. i believe they also have a 1/4" leader hose vs the 3/8" leader hose on the 480. 480 is a 200psi rated comp, 400/450 are rated 150psi. also IMO the good rule of thumb for comp/tank ratio is 3gal per comp.

Same here, im not looking to up and down.. Basically down at the show, and up when im done... I wont be doing alot of up and downing in a row... Get me????

My setup would work fine for that right?? 2 seems like overkill. I just want to be able to go down front and rear and up front in rear without having to wait... Just once.... Well, once within 3 or 4 minutes ya know...

Riveted1 09-09-2008 06:10 PM

Re: Airbaggers. Where are you putting your tanks?
 
I got a 5 gal. "slim" tank and it looks like it will fit outside the PS frame under the cab. I've just mocked it up a few times when I was running through stuff in my head. If not, I'm gonna have to find some stubby ones for outside of the frame behind my wheels. Mine's a fleetside though. If that doesn't happen, the slim tank will be goin in the front of my bed.

Painter D 09-09-2008 06:25 PM

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Here's my 5 gal. tank. You can't see it when the bed is on.

Ignore the wiring, it's temporary.

lyrikz 09-09-2008 06:26 PM

Re: Airbaggers. Where are you putting your tanks?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 69chevyshort (Post 2883045)
Here's my 5 gal. tank. You can't see it when the bed is on.

Ignore the wiring, it's temporary.

I got no pic you teaser.

Painter D 09-09-2008 06:27 PM

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It didn't work , give me a few minutes.

Painter D 09-09-2008 06:38 PM

Re: Airbaggers. Where are you putting your tanks?
 
Well I can't get my pic to post. Either way it's a 5 gal. tank mounted on the pass. side, outside frame rail, in front of the back wheel. You can't see it when the bed is on the truck. Hope this helps.

lyrikz 09-09-2008 07:17 PM

Re: Airbaggers. Where are you putting your tanks?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 69chevyshort (Post 2883066)
Well I can't get my pic to post. Either way it's a 5 gal. tank mounted on the pass. side, outside frame rail, in front of the back wheel. You can't see it when the bed is on the truck. Hope this helps.

Oh man, can you link it or something? Your killing me here. ahaha...

lowriden58 09-09-2008 07:40 PM

Re: Airbaggers. Where are you putting your tanks?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lyrikz (Post 2882987)
Same here, im not looking to up and down.. Basically down at the show, and up when im done... I wont be doing alot of up and downing in a row... Get me????

My setup would work fine for that right?? 2 seems like overkill. I just want to be able to go down front and rear and up front in rear without having to wait... Just once.... Well, once within 3 or 4 minutes ya know...

i get ya, but what im trying to say is basically a 3gallon tank wont do it for ya. raise the front or rear 1 time by itself and your out of air.... thats all im saying so choose the right comp/tank setup wisely. too much tank and not enough compressor and you will kill that comp, it will run longer and drain your battery faster than a multiple comp setup.

lyrikz 09-09-2008 07:51 PM

Re: Airbaggers. Where are you putting your tanks?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lowriden58 (Post 2883151)
i get ya, but what im trying to say is basically a 3gallon tank wont do it for ya. raise the front or rear 1 time by itself and your out of air.... thats all im saying so choose the right comp/tank setup wisely. too much tank and not enough compressor and you will kill that comp, it will run longer and drain your battery faster than a multiple comp setup.

Im running 10 gallons and two compressors... 5 gallons and 1 comp should be fine for the rear right????

lowriden58 09-09-2008 07:54 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lyrikz (Post 2883167)
Im running 10 gallons and two compressors... 5 gallons and 1 comp should be fine for the rear right????

yeah should be fine, which comp you gonna run? i havent checked out the 420 yet to see what the cfm rate is :lol:

lyrikz 09-09-2008 08:09 PM

Re: Airbaggers. Where are you putting your tanks?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lowriden58 (Post 2883171)
yeah should be fine, which comp you gonna run? i havent checked out the 420 yet to see what the cfm rate is :lol:

Let me get that info. for ya.

Here is the info on teh comp.. Its a 450 viair. tell me what this mumbo jumbo means and if in the future, two 450's and 10 gallons is good for what i want.. IT HAS to be good. ahaah.. id ont want to bounce with it.


Description:
STANDARD FEATURES:
-Oil-Less design

-Hi performance PTFE piston ring
-Stainless steel valves
-Moisture & dust resistant
-Gear-less direct drive motor
-Anodized aluminum alloy cylinder
-Automatic reset thermal overload protector
-Mounting plates with vibration isolators
-Stainless steel braided leader hose
-Remote mountable intake filter assembly
-Inline check valve

450 Specification:
-Voltage: 12 Volt & 24 Volt
-Max. Amp: 23 AMPS
-Max. Working Pressure: 150 PSI
-Max. Ambient Temp: 158 F
-Min. Ambient Temp: -40 F
-Motor: Permanent Magnetic
-Max. Duty cycle @ 100 PSI: 100%
-Dimension: 12.75" L X 4.00" W X 7.00" H
-Net weight: 9.75 lbs

"VIAIR warranties only compressors that have been installed using their
installation instructions included with each compressor. Installation of an
adjustable pressure switch can allow compressors to operate beyond their
rated duty cycle and working pressure. Use of an adjustable pressure switch
will void the warranty on any VIAIR compressor."

lyrikz 09-09-2008 08:13 PM

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Even better.

450c
450C specs

lowriden58 09-09-2008 08:22 PM

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i dont recommend the 450, they do have a newer version the 460c with new head design but check out Viairs site.. and compare them with REAL specs :lol:

http://www.viaircorp.com/400s.html

lyrikz 09-09-2008 08:24 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lowriden58 (Post 2883210)
i dont recommend the 450, they do have a newer version the 460c with new head design but check out Viairs site.. and compare them with REAL specs :lol:

http://www.viaircorp.com/400s.html

Of course they are sold out of the 460's. They always seem to be sold out of the cool stuff...

Rollie396 09-09-2008 08:26 PM

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I realize this isn't a great option now that your exhaust is done,but mebbe it'll spark another idea.I had one of those big tanks originally,but being as I want everything out of sight,it wasn't going to work too well.I built my own tanks out of 6" pipe and mounted them like the pic shows.I was going to use two Viairs,but have since decided to try out an EDC.

lyrikz 09-09-2008 08:32 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rollie396 (Post 2883218)
I realize this isn't a great option now that your exhaust is done,but mebbe it'll spark another idea.I had one of those big tanks originally,but being as I want everything out of sight,it wasn't going to work too well.I built my own tanks out of 6" pipe and mounted them like the pic shows.I was going to use two Viairs,but have since decided to try out an EDC.

oh SONOFAB!TCH THATS awesome... ahah Nice setup man... :(

Cool setup..

What is an EDC if you dont mind me asking?

lowriden58 09-09-2008 08:35 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lyrikz (Post 2883216)
Of course they are sold out of the 460's. They always seem to be sold out of the cool stuff...

i think if you plan on running 2 comps at some point i would bite the bullet and buy the dual 480 silver pack its like 360ish and cheaper than 2 of the 450/460s ;) ive owned the 450s before and they SUCK for normal use let alone daily use. the 480s are faster and more reliable :metal: which im about to buy a dual pack very soon for my newest project :chevy:

lowriden58 09-09-2008 08:36 PM

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EDC is Engine Driven Compressor ;)

Rollie396 09-09-2008 08:36 PM

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Thank you,I hope it works out like I'm thinking it will.
edc=engine driven compressor.I went junkyard hunting for an old york air conditioning pump and am plumbing it in to keep the air flowing.

Painter D 09-09-2008 09:26 PM

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I don't know what this is going to do but here goes. .........It worked!

Ignore the wiring.

umwtnt 09-10-2008 05:45 AM

Re: Airbaggers. Where are you putting your tanks?
 
Good Morning Lyrikz,

I did some measuring under, around and anywhere I seen some space and it doesn't look good for you. As some of the others recommended you may be better off with 3 gallon tanks or just installed them in the bed. An idea a friend of mind made to me was to built a box to install tanks in and make them to look like tool boxes. Painted separate from the bed and maybe even a tool manufacter sticker on it to fool onlookers. Good luck and thank you for the offer to check my muffler fit. I will probably take off the cab here in a few weeks and will check it then. I do know it will be tight.

Grandpa's CST 09-10-2008 11:08 AM

Re: Airbaggers. Where are you putting your tanks?
 
I have done a few different air ride setups, cars and trucks. I have always ran and trusted 450 Viair's I run 2 on a 5 gallon tank. I use 1/2" valves up and 3/8" valves down (with the weight helping come down the speed is about the same) the system will allow it to go up and down approx twice and then it recovers reasonable fast usually 1-2 min. I don't have any solution for hidding the tank, I'm not there yet on my project. Goodluck!

lyrikz 09-10-2008 03:44 PM

Re: Airbaggers. Where are you putting your tanks?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by umwtnt (Post 2883745)
Good Morning Lyrikz,

I did some measuring under, around and anywhere I seen some space and it doesn't look good for you. As some of the others recommended you may be better off with 3 gallon tanks or just installed them in the bed. An idea a friend of mind made to me was to built a box to install tanks in and make them to look like tool boxes. Painted separate from the bed and maybe even a tool manufacter sticker on it to fool onlookers. Good luck and thank you for the offer to check my muffler fit. I will probably take off the cab here in a few weeks and will check it then. I do know it will be tight.


Dont think so huh? I made a fake tank that was 34 inches and 7 inches in diameter and it MIGHT fit... Who knows... I will find out in a few days. Thanks for the measurments.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grandpa's CST (Post 2883990)
I have done a few different air ride setups, cars and trucks. I have always ran and trusted 450 Viair's I run 2 on a 5 gallon tank. I use 1/2" valves up and 3/8" valves down (with the weight helping come down the speed is about the same) the system will allow it to go up and down approx twice and then it recovers reasonable fast usually 1-2 min. I don't have any solution for hidding the tank, I'm not there yet on my project. Goodluck!


I ordered dual pack 400's and a 5 gallon tank. I MIGHT upgrade to another 5 gallon tank later... For what i want it for, if i can go up and down without waiting once, im fine with that...

Trey` 09-10-2008 08:48 PM

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I had two 400's on two 7 gallon tanks under my '00 GMC for years with no problems and never burned up a compressor, just a relay once. It now has a Oasis on it but is torn apart for a rebuild. i got a good deal on it or it would still have the 400's. Just bought the 480 dual pack for my '07 but it is not bagged yet. I think you will be fine. Wish I could help you out on the air tank problem. Not the easiest thing but I have seen trucks that used there frame rails for tanks.

lyrikz 09-11-2008 11:47 AM

Re: Airbaggers. Where are you putting your tanks?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Trey` (Post 2884773)
I had two 400's on two 7 gallon tanks under my '00 GMC for years with no problems and never burned up a compressor, just a relay once. It now has a Oasis on it but is torn apart for a rebuild. i got a good deal on it or it would still have the 400's. Just bought the 480 dual pack for my '07 but it is not bagged yet. I think you will be fine. Wish I could help you out on the air tank problem. Not the easiest thing but I have seen trucks that used there frame rails for tanks.

I think this will fit. Im sure i can make it fit. I dont want it pokin out under the rocker is all im worried about.. Its 7 inches in diameter, we will see how it goes... will keep you updated.

jmuck 09-11-2008 12:01 PM

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Infront of my rear wheels on my 68 swb fleetside.


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