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GMC91 10-24-2009 01:02 AM

Ole Rusty-86 3/4 4WD
 
Well about a week ago I bought a 1986 C20 3/4 ton 4WD LWB from a friend of mine for $400. Its originaly motor and trans has been junked and my friend put a 305 with a TH350 in it. He already put a new transfer case in it too before I bought it. Well I started tearing it down. Not gonna be a real show truck restore but it will look good and it will be dependable. As it stands, I need new cab mounts, rear break re-build kit(all the springs and stuff), and shocks. That just after looking at it the past three days. So far I have taken the bed and shocks off. Tomorrow Im taking the cab, front clip and drive train out. But here are some pics of the beast. Im really happy with it actually since Im 17 and now own two trucks, this one I bought my self and my first one I got from my dad.

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x...ress/001-6.jpg

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x...ress/002-6.jpg

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x...ress/003-4.jpg

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x...ress/004-2.jpg

GmtGmt 10-24-2009 03:58 PM

Re: Ole Rusty-86 3/4 4WD
 
looks like a good start better condtion then mine but what a bumper WOW

GMC91 10-24-2009 11:24 PM

Re: Ole Rusty-86 3/4 4WD
 
Well here is the progress so far, pulled the front clip, pulled the bed, and pullede the motor. By the way, Im 17 and did all this in one day by myself.( with the help of a cherry picker)

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x...ress/001-7.jpg

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x...ress/003-5.jpg

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x...ress/009-1.jpg

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x...ogress/008.jpg

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x...ress/002-7.jpg

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x...ress/004-3.jpg

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x...ress/005-3.jpg

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x...ogress/007.jpg

03cobrakid 10-25-2009 09:45 PM

Re: Ole Rusty-86 3/4 4WD
 
Looks like a solid truck.
Great progress Keep up the good work it's nice to see the younger generation appreciating the old trucks:metal::metal:

GMC91 10-25-2009 11:35 PM

Re: Ole Rusty-86 3/4 4WD
 
Well got a little bit done, would have got more but I got called into work. Painted some of the firewall black. But other then that, I just didnt have time.

joe231 10-26-2009 12:16 AM

Re: Ole Rusty-86 3/4 4WD
 
Nice
subscribed!!

GMC91 10-26-2009 12:22 AM

Re: Ole Rusty-86 3/4 4WD
 
http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x...s/image032.jpg
Just a pic of me standing next to the motor before it came out.

GMC91 10-26-2009 10:44 PM

Re: Ole Rusty-86 3/4 4WD
 
Alright well, had today off so i got a little bit of work done. Got the motor seperate from the trans. Got the motor on an engine stand. Put new front seal, real seal, and dip stick seal in the trans. So that should stop my leaking problem. Painted most the front of the cab too. Here some pics.

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x...ress/001-8.jpg

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x...ress/002-8.jpg

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x...ress/003-6.jpg

GMC91 10-28-2009 10:57 PM

Re: Ole Rusty-86 3/4 4WD
 
Got a question here, The 70 style fenders, the ones with the marker lights going up and down, can I get a set of those and put on this one? will everything line up? I also wanted to change out the grill and headlights to the 70 style round ones. What all will I need to do this?

joe231 10-28-2009 11:04 PM

Re: Ole Rusty-86 3/4 4WD
 
you will have to change out the entire front clip to get the 73-80 style fenders. fenders, hood, radiator support, inner fenders, hood hinges...the whole 9 yards and you will also need to change the windshield wiper shafts to the earlier, shorter ones to clear the older hood that has the built in cowl....I think you will have to modify the frame horns to run the correct bumper, and you may need to modify the radiator support mounts on the frame.

GMC91 10-28-2009 11:26 PM

Re: Ole Rusty-86 3/4 4WD
 
So it would be better to just either buy the patch panels, or new fenders? And what about the grille. And where can I find lower patch panels?

GMC91 11-01-2009 01:11 AM

Re: Ole Rusty-86 3/4 4WD
 
Well made very little progres last night. Got one inner fender painted. I used the dupli-color one stage gloss black that you get in autozone to paint it with, turned out good. Now I just got to do the core support and other fender.

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x...ess/fender.jpg

tvblazer78 11-01-2009 11:51 AM

Re: Ole Rusty-86 3/4 4WD
 
Doing a lot of work, good job man..;)

GMC91 11-03-2009 11:34 AM

Re: Ole Rusty-86 3/4 4WD
 
I was thinking, would this build be better off in the 4x4 build section? If so would a mod please move it? I forgot this site had an off-road section. Just wandering.

tvblazer78 11-03-2009 11:44 AM

Re: Ole Rusty-86 3/4 4WD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GMC91 (Post 3600417)
I was thinking, would this build be better off in the 4x4 build section? If so would a mod please move it? I forgot this site had an off-road section. Just wandering.


This is a build and your in the right place...

GMC91 11-03-2009 11:51 PM

Re: Ole Rusty-86 3/4 4WD
 
I was just wandering, but anyway new questions and progress. I started wire brushing the motor so I can paint it a high temp. gloss black. Is there any easier way than just oven degresser and a wire brush when cleaning a motor? And also I got a set 350 Hooker Headers Im gonna run on this thing, is there enough room to run them? There long tube headers. Im going to Texas tomorrow with my dad, going to houston to visit family, hit some junk yards, and watch Pinks all out two days in a row.Thats it for now, thanks for ya'lls help and what not. :metal:

GMC91 11-05-2009 08:33 PM

Re: Ole Rusty-86 3/4 4WD
 
Well, I stopped by the local pick n pull today. I got myself a nice new bumber with a set of fog lights already mounted on it. The metal peice the goes between the bumper and the grill,and the metal bar that goes up and down on the core support. Also picked up a nice set of blue bucket seats for $25 a seat out of a 90' model burb. Thats it for now.

68Timber 11-05-2009 08:51 PM

Re: Ole Rusty-86 3/4 4WD
 
Great start. Those trucks are very stout. I remember years back when a local military base was selling off their 3/4 ton 4x4 crew cabs. I wanted one pretty badly but the money wasn't there.

What are your plans for this one?

GMC91 11-05-2009 08:57 PM

Re: Ole Rusty-86 3/4 4WD
 
Right now is just to get the motor back in it and make it drivable once agian. Then I want to put about a 2-3 inch lift all the way around and mayby some bigger tires sitting on some crager soft 8 series wheel. Other then that just a nice stock truck that I can use as a daily driver.

GMC91 11-11-2009 02:50 AM

Re: Ole Rusty-86 3/4 4WD
 
Well me and my dad talked it over, and I told him what I wanted to do, so he is letting me use one of the bays of his garage and Im going to be doing a complete frame up restore on this truck. So Ill keep ya'll informed on how it all goes. Should be interesting.

GMC91 11-11-2009 05:06 PM

Re: Ole Rusty-86 3/4 4WD
 
Well I got the cab off today, the frame is in better condition then I thought. Here some pics of it, it does have one slight crack in it. Here are two pics.

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x...ress/002-9.jpg

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x...ress/003-7.jpg

GMC91 11-12-2009 06:17 PM

Re: Ole Rusty-86 3/4 4WD
 
Does anyone know exactly how good Chassis saver is and is it worth it? If not what should I use to paint the chassis.

68Timber 11-12-2009 06:50 PM

Re: Ole Rusty-86 3/4 4WD
 
I'm not familiar with Chassis saver, but I've heard good stuff about POR15. Well, except that it's messy to work with.

GMC91 11-14-2009 07:07 PM

Re: Ole Rusty-86 3/4 4WD
 
Is this normal? I took the front axle out and on the brackets that are welded to the axle that bolt it to the leaf springs one hole is bigger than the other. Here is a pic if the bracket next to the pumpkin

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x...ress/small.jpg

Here is the other one on the drivers side

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x...ogress/big.jpg

Is this normal?

74 C-30 11-14-2009 10:09 PM

Re: Ole Rusty-86 3/4 4WD
 
maybe the spring perch was replaced at one time? doesn't look like too big an issue
nice work! you make the rest of us 17 year olds look bad :lol:

Scootin 81 C20 11-15-2009 06:44 PM

Re: Ole Rusty-86 3/4 4WD
 
Nice work. I wish I was lucky enough to have a 4x4.

He doesn't make us look bad, he just makes us look slower than he is. LOL.

GMC91 11-15-2009 11:12 PM

Re: Ole Rusty-86 3/4 4WD
 
LOL thanks for the comments, how many 16-17 year olds are on this site?

Scootin 81 C20 11-15-2009 11:45 PM

Re: Ole Rusty-86 3/4 4WD
 
Well, we are three. I am until next month, then I'm 18.

GMC91 11-16-2009 09:53 PM

Re: Ole Rusty-86 3/4 4WD
 
I got 2 questions here.

The first: Is this bar suppose to be bent like it is or do I need a new one?
http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x...ress/003-8.jpg

The second:How do I get the hub or what ever its called off?
http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x...ess/001-10.jpg

GMC91 11-17-2009 08:44 PM

Re: Ole Rusty-86 3/4 4WD
 
Ok since that didnt get any replies, what all can I take off the front axle that wont cost me hundreds of dollars to put back on. Im trying to make a sorta show truck outta this thing so I dont want any rust on it. And I know next to nothing about axles and what not. I bought me some chassis saver and what not, trying to clean this front end up for paint.

Edit:Everthing that has a rubber seal, like the tierods and what not, can I jsut buy new boots or do I have to replace that whole thing?

68Timber 11-17-2009 08:59 PM

Re: Ole Rusty-86 3/4 4WD
 
I don't know much of anything about front steering gear, but that is the front tie rod and it needs to be replaced. Bent = trash pile. As far as removing it, I think the tool is called a pickle-fork, but you're really into territory where you need a very good shop manual. Not that you won't get help here, but a good shop manual is a must.

GMC91 11-17-2009 09:04 PM

Re: Ole Rusty-86 3/4 4WD
 
Where can I find one and how much will it cost?

68Timber 11-17-2009 09:10 PM

Re: Ole Rusty-86 3/4 4WD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GMC91 (Post 3620125)
Is this normal? I took the front axle out and on the brackets that are welded to the axle that bolt it to the leaf springs one hole is bigger than the other. Here is a pic if the bracket next to the pumpkin

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x...ress/small.jpg

Here is the other one on the drivers side

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x...ogress/big.jpg

Is this normal?

I meant to reply to this earlier. It's not normal. At least not that I've ever heard of, but Chevy has done stranger things. They appear to be mismatched spring perches. Which would make me wonder why it was done, but unless you know the previous owner you'll never know the rest of the story - Paul Harvey is dead. But as long as it was done well, don't worry. Check the welds. If they look good, don't sweat it. ;)

68Timber 11-17-2009 09:11 PM

Re: Ole Rusty-86 3/4 4WD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GMC91 (Post 3625606)
Where can I find one and how much will it cost?

Try the dealership first. Last time I bought one new it was under $100 for a 3/4 ton tie rod.

bitchin85 11-17-2009 09:17 PM

Re: Ole Rusty-86 3/4 4WD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GMC91 (Post 3622143)
LOL thanks for the comments, how many 16-17 year olds are on this site?

im 16

64swb 11-17-2009 09:29 PM

Re: Ole Rusty-86 3/4 4WD
 
that is what the spring perches are supposed to look like, the driver's side mount has a larger/slightly irregular shaped hole.

GMC91 11-17-2009 09:39 PM

Re: Ole Rusty-86 3/4 4WD
 
I looked up the diagram for the front end, the bar thats bent is just the adjustment sleeve, its under $50 outta autozone. So now Im trying to take my tie rods out of it. Wat a PITA. New tie-rods are like $20 a peice. The internet does wanders. Thanks for all the replies.

GMC91 11-17-2009 10:07 PM

Re: Ole Rusty-86 3/4 4WD
 
Everytime I look the part up and I find it, I can only find one for a 4:10 gear ratio. Is that going to matter? OR am I just screwed till I do go to a dealership?

Greenlee 11-18-2009 12:24 AM

Re: Ole Rusty-86 3/4 4WD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GMC91 (Post 3625766)
Everytime I look the part up and I find it, I can only find one for a 4:10 gear ratio. Is that going to matter? OR am I just screwed till I do go to a dealership?

Gearing doesn't have anything to do with the steering parts.

You can rent the pickle fork at Autozone for cheap.

Nice work so far on the truck!

GMC91 11-19-2009 06:01 PM

Re: Ole Rusty-86 3/4 4WD
 
Well I hope that the parts house carries the part cause I just got back from the dealership and they no longer carry it.


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