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wpotter 09-29-2010 11:47 AM

1949 Chevy Truck Subframe Install - Any Pictures
 
I am working on a 1949 Chevy Truck and have a 1972 Nova Subframe & Rear end. I was wondering if any one has any pictures of how they installed theirs or any trucks that are rolling to see what stance they have. Thanks

bjcaldwe 09-29-2010 12:00 PM

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http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=320546

Look at the build I just posted a link to. At post 12 he starts putting a sub frame on.

Look towards the end of the build to see it at ride height.

55dude 09-29-2010 01:07 PM

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the front subframe will fit nice but the rearend might be a little narrow. here is some great reading on front subframe installation:http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=148978

Indian113 09-29-2010 02:03 PM

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This is how a friend of mine did his 55 chevy a AD can be done the same way. I have a 53 done the first way and wish I had done it this way it looks safer to me. Also I have a Nova rear on my 53 and it fits alright I have 8 in ch wheels with 4 in back spacing and 235/60-15 on it.

wpotter 09-29-2010 03:20 PM

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Thanks for all the help. This is my winter project on my sons truck so I have a little time to figure it out. Running the original subframe all the way under the truck frame is what I was thinking just didnt know how it would look. Looks good. Thanks.

Scott52 10-02-2010 11:38 AM

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here are a few pictures of mine, 52 frame with 79 camaro clip, still working on it

raycow 10-02-2010 03:22 PM

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That's impressive work on those subframe grafts. It looks like the joint comes out stronger than the original frame when you do it that way.

Ray

Indian113 10-02-2010 03:44 PM

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Scott52 your frontend is lookin good. it's gonna set nice and low keep us posted.

Scott52 10-04-2010 08:42 PM

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i've got the truck sitting on the ground with all the sheet metal on, its low without the motor in yet

nebdrummer 10-07-2010 08:55 PM

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heres mine. 77-prior el camino sub. 2" drop spindles and QA1's. pretty dirty.

its not a nova front, but you get the idea here as well. keep in mind where your welding the clip to the frame, you can get the pickup a bit lower welding the subframe higher.

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q...ckstuff021.jpg

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q...o16/005-24.jpg

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q...o16/007-16.jpg

72Mountaineer 10-09-2010 09:50 AM

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The Nova subframe seems to be a little more narrow than the Camaro.

Indian113 10-09-2010 10:05 AM

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it is around 2 inches. I have a 74 nova on my 53. I bought 15x6 rims with 4 inch back spacing and I have 205/75-15 tires on it and seem to fit ok.

hotrodjoe1952 12-31-2010 12:16 AM

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this sub frame build looks awesome, i am building a 52, is there any measurements and things i need to watch out for in my subframe build? i am using a 86 camaro for my doner...Joey

superfly 08-07-2011 11:48 PM

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I love the stance I also PM d you About some work if your intersted

Thanks jaime

mknittle 08-08-2011 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by hotrodjoe1952 (Post 4379099)
this sub frame build looks awesome, i am building a 52, is there any measurements and things i need to watch out for in my subframe build? i am using a 86 camaro for my doner...Joey

86 won't work. they don't have a sub frame. and the suspension parts are flimsy.

mknittle 08-08-2011 11:12 AM

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here is mine so far. sorry pics aren't so good 2ND down on the left shows the arrow head shaped gussets inside the plating.

mknittle 08-08-2011 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by mknittle (Post 4834331)
86 won't work. they don't have a sub frame. and the suspension parts are flimsy.

Sorry that is the camaro

63 & 64 Bowties 08-08-2011 11:27 AM

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Here's a 54 I built a couple years ago....
http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o...D/DSC01493.jpg
http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o...D/DSC01492.jpg
http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o...D/DSC01491.jpg
This method puts it at about stock ride height.
Rolling chassis, no engine/trans/glass/interior....
http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o...D/IMG_0320.jpg

Kabwe 08-08-2011 12:49 PM

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This is a 1970 Nova Clip on a 1954 truck. Its a nice clip and rides great. It was a hack job that I had to cut out and re-install. Here is the thread if you want to see it. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=445185

Here are a couple of pics.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4150/...0e3cf04c86.jpg
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5252/...3efd21130a.jpg
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6146/...3481fc44e3.jpg

Bonechip67 09-10-2011 09:30 PM

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Hey guys, Newbie here! Im picking up a 49 long box tomorrow and already thinking of how to make it ride and stop better. A friend of my has a running/driving 78 firebird he is trying to sell. I was wondering If i could use the sub frame from this car and do something like Indian did earlier in this post?! Any advice or input would be greatly appreciated!

Indian113 09-10-2011 09:52 PM

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The firebird clip is the same as the camaro clip Scott52 used

Bonechip67 09-10-2011 09:59 PM

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I figured as much, but didn't know for sure seeing as its a tad wider than the older Camaro and Nova subs. Any Advice or problems I should look out for? also, think I can use the rear end out of the same car or is it too wide? Thanks in advance

Indian113 09-10-2011 10:04 PM

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You can use the rearend too,just watch your backspacing on your wheels. I would use EVERYTHING I could from that bird,you'll save some money. I moved my frontend out to make my wheelbase longer so the front wheel set in opening centered.

Indian113 09-10-2011 10:07 PM

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Attachment 799139 here's a picture of my 53

Bonechip67 09-10-2011 10:11 PM

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Looks damn clean! Mine will not be, as its been sitting in a yard for the past 10years or so.. I will be making it into a short box as well. Think I can cut the amount needed out of the front of the bed and just reattach the front bed panel to the sides?

Indian113 09-10-2011 10:16 PM

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Looks can be decieving!!! It has some issues,a lot of rust on cowl and floor. Too bad your so far away I'd make you a deal on it!! I have way too many projects and not enough $. I am working on a model a and my wife's 64 at the same time

flatbed51 09-11-2011 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian113 (Post 4892804)
You can use the rearend too,just watch your backspacing on your wheels. I would use EVERYTHING I could from that bird,you'll save some money. I moved my frontend out to make my wheelbase longer so the front wheel set in opening centered.

Indian what length wheelbase did you wind up with after moving it forward ?

Indian113 09-11-2011 10:20 PM

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I'll measure it in the morning and post it, did it so long ago I can't remember exactly

Indian113 09-12-2011 07:03 PM

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After measuring it I found out I didn't add any lenght it measures 116 inches.

72Mountaineer 09-13-2011 07:16 AM

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I've seen lots of these subframe grafts. One question...how do you do the brakes? Do you have to use the firewall mounted brake units? Or will everything still work under the floor?

tmoble 09-16-2011 08:49 PM

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I have a 2nd gen Camaro clip with an C4 Vette rear, still using the stock master. I'm about to go to a dual though.

mknittle 09-16-2011 10:10 PM

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I am going with a firewall mounted hydro boost mostly because my engine is pretty wide.
I am using a 400 Pontiac and a 4speed. I would like to use the same set up under the floor but It wont all fit with the exhaust and clutch linkage.

Bonechip67 10-22-2011 05:48 PM

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Can anyone tell me if a 76-78 nova frame is wider than the 74? I bought a sub frame and think the guy thought it was a 76. Being the novice, I didn't think there would be a diff but got it all the way home and it measures out to be the same width as the Camaro which I didn't want. Any help would be GREATLY appreciated! Also, has anyone here used a later Nova sub? Thanks

Indian113 10-22-2011 06:27 PM

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Bonechip,if the sub is a front steer it's the same as a camaro. A 74 nova is rear steer,68-74 nova,67-69 camaro-firebird are all the same.

Bonechip67 11-08-2011 05:50 PM

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So is it common to extend the wheel base 3 inches to make it look better? Need to know before I weld it all up!

nacho55 11-09-2011 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Bonechip67 (Post 4998125)
So is it common to extend the wheel base 3 inches to make it look better? Need to know before I weld it all up!

I am no expert but I think its a preference on how you want the wheels centered in the wheel wells. But what I did was tacked mine good enough to hold weight and set it down and put the sheet metal on a couple times to make sure I liked the way it looked before I did my final welding and measuring
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Bonechip67 11-09-2011 11:32 AM

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So what did you end up with for a final length? 119, or 116?
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nacho55 11-09-2011 12:16 PM

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So what did you end up with for a final length? 119, or 116?
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I would have to measures tonight when i get home but mine is a long bed so my measurements may not work for you.
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Kabwe 11-09-2011 02:32 PM

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Man the center of the wheels is fine at 116. Plus you should always just tack it end (its very easy to remove a tack weld) and hang a some sheetmetal and have a look before any final welding. Once you are satisfied weld it in.

This is 116 wheelbase with the rear end also centered in the fenders (some of these trucks are off in the rear also).

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5093/...7aedb34d61.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3261/...e41da523ab.jpg

Root2812 11-09-2011 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Kabwe (Post 4999896)
Man the center of the wheels is fine at 116. Plus you should always just tack it end (its very easy to remove a tack weld) and hang a some sheetmetal and have a look before any final welding. Once you are satisfied weld it in.

This is 116 wheelbase with the rear end also centered in the fenders (some of these trucks are off in the rear also).

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5093/...7aedb34d61.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3261/...e41da523ab.jpg

Off topic but what size wheels and tires are those? I really like the way that size set up looks in the wheel opening. I've been trying to decide if 15 or 16 inch rims are the way to go and then what size tires.

Thanks
Greg


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