wheres the hidden vin?? Help?
 

so i am going to buy a 1970 chevy c10 swb. And i noticed it doesnt have any vin ID tags on it. guy who is selling it says the title goes with the truck. but im not buying it. I was just wondering if anybody could tell me where the hidden vin is on the frame or cab on the 67-72 c10 trucks,

All input is welcome

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VIN tag is in the driver side door pillar. The glove box door also has a sticker on the inside that has the VIN and the options. The will also be stamped on the top in the driver side frame rail in the engine compartment.

Good luck!

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the one on the metal plate on the cab side of the drivers door jamb under the striker is the ONLY one that LEGALLY identifies the truck.
Without that, you have an illegal truck

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I'll add that there is also one on top of the driver side frame rail under the cab...

LockDoc

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Partial vin on the drivers side upper frame rail,right at the gearbox area.You might have to do some scraping to see but if he has a title these numbers on the drivers frame rail will match the last 8 or 9 numbers on the vin number stated on the title.If you are looking for a opinion I would not mess with a vehicle with a vin tag,it will give you problems down the road.

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Excuse me I ment I would not mess with one without a vin tag

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i appreciate all the help guys. but i didnt find anything. i found some number under the cab on the frame rail but they dont match the vin. and i checked my dads 70 c10 and it also has numbers but they dont match either....maybe im not looking for it correctly. if someone could post a picture of where your truck has it or maybe seen it. i would really like that. i cant pass up a truck like that

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You mean that the numbers under the cab do not match the vin# on the title that he is producing,correct?

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If I could I would take pics. of my vin#locations on my frame today for you,but my frame is being sandblasted 42 miles from me at this point.Hate to see you get into something that might not be right.

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Chevy, There is more than one set of numbers on your frame. If you found the numbers on the side of the frame they won't match anything. If you find the numbers on the top of the frame they will partially match the vin.

But I see a big red flag here. If the cab has NO vin plate then DON'T buy that truck. As said in post #3 it won't be legal. If you don't have a vin plate on the cab, then you don't have a truck (Except for parts) The vin plate is on the drivers side rear pillar under the striker.
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There are two places for a frame partial VIN number on the frame. One place is on top of the frame under the cab. This one is hard to see with the cab on.
The same number will also be on top of the frame in the engine compartment. It is much easier to find and see. Driver side top of frame across from the front of the engine block. Here is a pic of mine. My PS pump is what you see at the top of the pic.
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on a 70... there would only be one plate in that location... but without it, you have a parts truck

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you also can't see the VIN stamp on the frame rail under the cab without removing the cab. it is on the top surface of the frame rail, not the side.

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wow thanks bruceman1968!!! you were a very big help. i found them. turns out you couldnt see them cause it was painted over. it was scratched off and bam! the numbers match


and yeah i know if it doesnt have the cab plate its not legal. but the glove box and door have stickers. and ill live with that. i was just concerned with the chasiss i appreciate all the help guys.

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in alabama, without the door tag you won't be able to get it registered which means no license plate, regardless of the frame markings ... just a thought

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I have heard that having the frame numbers matching the title, is sufficient here in Arkansas. I already have the title to my truck, but am going to be using a '68 cab. Yeah, the numbers don't match my title, but my frame does. I'll be taking the tag off of my '69 cab, just for tickles and grins. I have a bill of sale for my replacement cab, but I'd rather have the numbers to match across the board.

I'm gonna get a pair of the rosette rivets and I know they are not cheap, but that's what I'll do.

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I have a 68 gmc longbed and I'm having difficulty with finding the Vin stamped on the frame, when did they start stamping on the frame and did gmc's receive these markings also? And can anybody post a picture of approximately where the one under the cab should be.? Thanks :-) oh and if there's no stamp on the frame near the steering box will there be one under the cab?
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Don't remove the vin plate off of any cab for any reason, if the cab came with the tag that is the identifier that is isn't stolen. In Texas I had to take a truck with a different cab to DMV theft division to have it verified and paper work done to denote this change in Austin. Now the truck is totally legal even though the cab vin plate DOESN't match the frame rail numbers. I just had to have proof of purchase VIA a sales receipt from the salvage yard for the cab. Plus the title for the frame, And proof of purchase of other parts that went into the truck.

Again DO NOT REMOVE THE VIN TAG OFF OF THE ORIGINAL CAB AND PUT ON THE REPLACEMENT CAB. Call your DMV and ask questions before you do the dumb mistake I did before I learned the correct way.

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I have a 67 GMC that doesn't have any frame #'s stamped either. Had it blasted and powdered and no visible #'s. I think some early gmc's were like that.

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be very carefull about buying a truck or a pile of parts.

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I look all over for a Vin, and nothing, there are numbers on the side of the frame but not on top, I spent a good while scraping off dirt and crud off the frame and looking for one with a mirror and flashlight but found nothing, anybody able to decipher the numbers?
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Restarting on another thread is not going to automatically make your truck with its rust, butchered vin plate and a lot of title/paperwork/fees problems better. If you have more questions you should just keep them on your first directly relevant thread.

If there isn't a number stamped by the steering box it is not likley to be under the cab and early GMC trucks are less likely the Chevy to have them. If it is there it will only be a partial with the last eight digits. The number stamped into the sides of the rails are frame part numbers and of no real help to you.

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=585978

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Dude Tim you need to calm your tone, I'm trying to learn more about these trucks not troll over the forum, it's unnecessary to nag like that, all you should say is that the frame numbers are part numbers and be a nice guy and give information about said frame numbers instead of your remarks about my truck
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Resurrected threads drive me nuts. Don't know why...perhaps they confuse me.
It sounds to me like you looked and didn't find any. With the tag at the jamb or pillar missing...you will have issues.
I registered my truck but they didn't need to see the truck, then again my DMV knows me and that I do good in my community.

Call the DMV, or read their site. If I remember you were only thinking of buying, but from info here it seems you bought. No tag no luck is the rule for most DMVs. Tim gave you good info the first time. Iirc. Perhaps the info you are looking for or hope to hear isn't to be found?

Or maybe you are trying to find a work around for no vin?
I don't know but I think the best answer will be at your local DMV
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No VIN plate = no truck. It is illegal to not have a VIN plate PERMANENTLY attached to the body. Partial VINs on the frame are just that "7A12345" year, plant, assembly sequence. No model info there is not a complete VIN other than the plate and glovebox. Some states will issue a new vin but the red tape and loss of value kind of kill that for a classic/ collector vehicle. Best bet is to contact your local DMV and highway patrol and ask.
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Trailer that truck with no VIN tag on the pillar to the CHP/DMV you will most likely be coming home with an empty trailer. Tim is trying to help you but as mentioned he may not be telling you what you want to hear.

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I guess i've got it easy here, I just walk into the town office with a bill of sale with the vin # on it and its registered. It would probably be too much work if they had to come outside and look at the truck!

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I have a 72 that had the frame swapped from a long to short bed. I was looking for the vin on the engine compartment part of the frame and this is what I found "0s157980" can someone help decode this.

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0 1970
S St. Louis assembly plant
157980 unit serial number

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Thanks SS Tim that was alot of help.

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I bought a 1971 p10 gmc and the pink I'd is ps135f121116 and I can't find the vin tag and on the driver side frame the # is 1f655401 is this right or wrong frame please help guys. It was parked since 88 I have original pink from 2 nd owner

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The partial vin on the frame can also be stamped on top of the passenger side frame rail in the engine compartment jus about inline with the pulleys on a 350. My 72 4x4 blazer has it's there. Most states I've lived in don't check the car for a vin unless it has an out of state title. That being said, I've driven 8 hrs for an ebay deal, had no vin, and drove 8hrs back with the same empty trailer...I would find another truck. If it looks to good to be true, it usually is.

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I decided to finally look for mine on my 68 panel. It is on the driver's side on the top of the frame adjacent to the P/S pump. I had to sand off the paint to see it and fortunately it matches the plate in the driver's door post.

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I just found this post and im going to resurrect it because there is a lot of misleading information.

People use different cabs and frames all the time. There is no issue with this. You take your paperwork to your out of state inspection office and they will solve any issues.

Also, not having a vin plate on the cab is NOT the end of the world. You have a legit receipt and paperwork matching your purchase your out of state inspection office will handle it.

I have a 70 blazer i just went through this. The vin plate on the vehicle has never been registered. EVER! They believe that the mix up in vins happened at the factory. The frame vin, hidden frame vin, spid, and title all matches. The door frame vin is off by 2 numbers as someone had dyslexia or something. I had it taken to oregon state inspection and they put a new vin in the door frame. Done. I registered it in washington with zero issues either. Very common occurence from what they told me.

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I don't seem to have any such plate on my truck. The only one I've found is on the sticker in the glove box.

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I bought an original black plate truck with ALL vin # intact from crayon marks, Glove Box, Plate on the cab ,Tag in glove box and it had the blue sticker on the driver door that was worn but the last 3 digits were there. Arizona DMV wanted me to leave the truck for a closer look. I took it to another DMV and the guy there said oh this is not complete. I showed him all the other numbers and then he was satisfied. I called DMV and asked how many numbers are required and they told me 1-2 but it is up to the inspector. I get that they want to stop stolen vehicles but they should also look at the overall picture. It was complete and an original truck with more documentation than most. Even the black plates were those issued in 1970. I explained that having had a shop we replaced many drivers doors due to damage and the stickers were not available to replace then. If I have any vehicles I have had to buy bonded insurance on it and DMV issues a bonded title. It can be a pain but at least you can get registration legally going this rout. I know each state may differ.

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Oregon dmv literally took a sticker and put it next to my vin plate. Its a custom sticker but thats all they did. So i have a vin plate that reads one number and i have a vin sticker from dmv, spid, and frame numbers with the other vin. Washington didnt care either. They looked up the original vin and it has never been issued.

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Hello to all of you .well for starters it bought a 72 c10 from a friend to save the truck and restore it .because I couldn't help the fact my friends dad died .
My problem is the dmv is requiring me to get a chp regulation 31 form done
They can not find a secondary vin to verify the truck .yes the original vin plate is on the cab door sill .no factory sticker on the glove box door and no vin on the top driverside frame rail near gear box .any help ?
This is a cali truck already registered and titled in cali .I'm not trying to change States just trying to re register in cali

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theres gotta be a stamped number on top of the frame rail in the engine compartment especially on a 72, usually on the drivers side rail near where the PS pump is from all the ones ive seen. i had to do a vin verification on my 69 , also here in CA like yourself. they found the one on the frame rail as i dont even have the one on the cab jamb anymore and they were ok with that. i think it all depends on the guy doing it. only other one on the frame is under the cab, and you actually have to pull the cab to get to that one

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Well I cleaned and sanded with emery cloth on the top of the frame rail from gear box to motor mount .it looked like it was ground down when I cleaned it .but the truck has been in her dad's name for the past 10 years and has be registered here in cali since he bought it