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tazattitude 09-12-2011 04:13 PM

Black wood beds!!!! UPDATED with pics
 
I did a search and found some beds with some stained and painted wood done in black. I remember seeing a red truck with some black wood and red strips (might have been the 67-72 section). Looked sweet.
Anyone have some pics they can share of the bed wood done in black?

I did a couple samples over some test red wood, and they came out 'all right'. One piece I put to much black on I think.

Thanks in advance

brokenspoke 09-12-2011 04:39 PM

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I'll have some next week...I treated with linseed oil and lamp black as orginal....time will tell

aerotruk63 09-12-2011 04:47 PM

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Another detail to add!

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-k...0/image0-2.jpg
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aerotruk63 09-12-2011 04:52 PM

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theastronaut build thread. Look at post #28
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=474456&page=2

brokenspoke lol
The current International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC) evaluation is that, "Carbon black is possibly carcinogenic to humans (Group 2B)". Short-term exposure to high concentrations of carbon black dust may produce discomfort to the upper respiratory tract, through mechanical irritation.

oem4me 09-12-2011 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by brokenspoke (Post 4895744)
I'll have some next week...I treated with linseed oil and lamp black as orginal....time will tell

These beds were painted. The lamp black and linseed oil is from the "olden days". Linseed oil itself is known to absorb water and should not be considered a sealer. I did a beautiful bed in mahogany years ago and was constantly "feeding" the finish with linseed oil. The upside is it never peels. The downside is it gets dirty/gummy after awhile and never really seals the wood.
Below is a pic of an original factory PAINTED bed.

brokenspoke 09-12-2011 05:45 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by aerotruk63 (Post 4895765)
theastronaut build thread. Look at post #28
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=474456&page=2

brokenspoke lol
The current International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC) evaluation is that, "Carbon black is possibly carcinogenic to humans (Group 2B)". Short-term exposure to high concentrations of carbon black dust may produce discomfort to the upper respiratory tract, through mechanical irritation.

I used liquid lamp black.....which is used as a tint in paints...

kieth 09-12-2011 06:21 PM

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I used POR 15 satin black 3 coats with a black satin enamel over coat 2 coats for uv protection........ read the mar-k test results, used pine wood and you cannot tell what it is saved so much money that I bought polished SS strips and bolts.....argggg web site where I store mypictures is down will post pics later. Kieth :gmc2:

theastronaut 09-12-2011 06:31 PM

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Here's a few more pics of the wood floor for the '65 I restored. Used Benjamin Moore Fresh Start Primer and their Exterior Low Gloss Black Enamel/Latex paint. Thinned it with Floetrol so it would lay out better, and sprayed it with my Sata KLC RP primer gun (2.5 tip).

Primed, grain raised up, needed lots of sanding. Brushed the primer on for the first coat.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net..._5793059_n.jpg

Sanded with 80 grit on a 6" DA sander.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net..._1362189_n.jpg

Reprimed but sprayed it this time, lightly sanded with 180 grit on the DA, just enough to remove the orange peel from the primer, not smoothing any of the wood's grain though.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net..._1564501_n.jpg

Painted, two coats of Ben Moore's Low Gloss Exterior Latex/Enamel thinned with Floetrol.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net..._1795619_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...5_111791_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net..._6473715_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net..._3480938_n.jpg

Here's a pic from an assembly line showing the painted wood floor, with a little gloss showing

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/a...1&d=1315669325

theastronaut 09-12-2011 06:35 PM

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Oh yeah, forgot to mention that spray furninture polish (I used the lemon scented Walmart brand stuff in the yellow can :lol: ) works great to keep the bed floor looking like new. Darkens it up and adds a little more sheen, great for a quick detail before a car show. Works good on the satin interior paint as well.

tazattitude 09-12-2011 07:14 PM

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Thanks for all the replies.
Looks like me and theastronaut were doing test panels at the same time!!! :lol: I came up with about the same results. After the second coat, I did about 2-3 more coats and got it black, but I think it was 'too black'.

Sounds like we are looking for about the same effect. black, but able to see the grain. not gloss, but a nice satin look.
I do like the 'dye' idea though. may have to check that out.
I also wouldn't mind getting that 'candy' black look (still see the grain) and clearcoat with automotive clear with a flattening agent in it (as I did on my black areas on the truck). Clearcoat, resand and reclear so it's flat, but yet you can still see the grain through the black/clear.

I read your build thread theastronaut, got lot's going on. Sounds like "Ron" know his stuff about stains, dye's wood.... (has some nice stuff).

I should have mentioned I went with Oak. It's on the way from Mar-K. I'm going with the hidden bolt strips and painting them the same olive green as the truck.

Nice scans aerotruk63

Looking forward to seeing your pics brokenspoke

theastronaut 09-12-2011 07:41 PM

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Great minds think alike! I'm going to try dying the wood (and sanding it better!) next and see how that works out. Might get to try it tomorrow night, but if not definitly sometime this week. I'll post the results here. Great looking truck Taz!!
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chad64chevy 09-12-2011 07:53 PM

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taz- i think the green with black wood would look really nice! i seen you video on youtube of the motor sounds good, may need to stock up on some back tires, lol!!

aerotruk63 09-12-2011 07:54 PM

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I was told on another forum that they had a heavy kraft paper on top of the wood for protection during shipping and that it was under the bed side rub rails and inner fenders. When you remove the wood along these area's that you should find remenants of that paper. The factory photo contradicts this information.
Additionally that the finish was applied after the floor was assembled and that the finish was not found under the rub rails. More unanswered questions.

Looks like the cowl extensions are missing in the factory photo.

theastronaut may I ask what year that factory photo's from? Do you have the original or found it on line?

brokenspoke 09-12-2011 08:31 PM

Re: Black wood beds!!!! Pics Please
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by theastronaut (Post 4895910)
Here's a few more pics of the wood floor for the '65 I restored. Used Benjamin Moore Fresh Start Primer and their Exterior Low Gloss Black Enamel/Latex paint. Thinned it with Floetrol so it would lay out better, and sprayed it with my Sata KLC RP primer gun (2.5 tip).

Primed, grain raised up, needed lots of sanding. Brushed the primer on for the first coat.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net..._5793059_n.jpg

Sanded with 80 grit on a 6" DA sander.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net..._1362189_n.jpg

Reprimed but sprayed it this time, lightly sanded with 180 grit on the DA, just enough to remove the orange peel from the primer, not smoothing any of the wood's grain though.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net..._1564501_n.jpg

Painted, two coats of Ben Moore's Low Gloss Exterior Latex/Enamel thinned with Floetrol.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net..._1795619_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...5_111791_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net..._6473715_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net..._3480938_n.jpg

Here's a pic from an assembly line showing the painted wood floor, with a little gloss showing

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/a...1&d=1315669325

that looks nice

theastronaut 09-12-2011 08:46 PM

Re: Black wood beds!!!! Pics Please
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by aerotruk63 (Post 4896057)
Additionally that the finish was applied after the floor was assembled and that the finish was not found under the rub rails. More unanswered questions.

Looks like the cowl extensions are missing in the factory photo.

theastronaut may I ask what year that factory photo's from? Do you have the original or found it on line?

The pic is from 62-63 judging from the hood and wrap-around windshield. I believe the wood strips and planks on the '65 I restored were painted assembled, but that could have been done at a later date.

The pic was posted here:

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=455059&page=6
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1Bad62Pro/Street 09-12-2011 10:57 PM

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Back in the day!
https://by1.storage.live.com/items/9...BryanLail6.jpg
https://byfiles.storage.live.com/y1p...ryanLail10.jpg

jocko 09-12-2011 11:02 PM

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here ya go! Doesn't look as cherry as some of the purdy ones above - WOW those are nice!

aerotruk63 09-13-2011 08:54 AM

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jocko nice looking side rails.

kieth 09-13-2011 10:25 AM

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Here is my 66 gmc bed while installing .......Kieth

http://kieth.smugmug.com/Trucks/66-G...0_7gSSnFJ-A-LB

blackmopar 09-13-2011 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by theastronaut (Post 4895910)

boy that does look very good!

jocko 09-13-2011 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by aerotruk63 (Post 4897057)
jocko nice looking side rails.

thanks aero - ironically, since I'm not a big fan of them, I've since removed them. And they left some "nice" screw holes in the bed... Middle ones will be pretty simple to fill, but the ones near the stake pockets won't be easy to get behind for brass backing while welding, etc. May have to chop up my brass backing to be able to get in there. But that's for another day.

I do plan on listing the rails for sale in the near future, either here or on ebay or something like that.

They are nice, and they are older stuff, so they looked appropriate on the truck, but I just wasn't a fan. Personal preference, that's all. I DO like these same rails with the shorter stantions that came with some of em, mine are pretty tall.

tazattitude 09-14-2011 11:06 AM

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Sharp looking trucks everyone!!!
Like the black bed wood. Have to figure out exactly how I'm going to do it though.

kieth 09-14-2011 11:17 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tazattitude (Post 4898967)
Sharp looking trucks everyone!!!
Like the black bed wood. Have to figure out exactly how I'm going to do it though.


We actually used chasis saver satin black about $29.00 per quart or 94.00 per gallon, We bought #2 pine ($56.00) from a local supplier who liked old trucks and he let us cherry pick a brand new shipment of wood so we got low quality price and high quality boards, we cut the boards to width and then dido bladed the edges (Mar-k has the info available on their website) then sand the heck out of the boards, then if you would spray the chasis saver frame paint (about 3 coats they just look great and really resemble steel because of the finish...) people do not realize they are wood. Then just spray a couple of coats of enamel flat black (with uv inhibiters and you will be good to go. Kieth

1Bad62Pro/Street 09-14-2011 02:02 PM

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Post your Bed Wood/Metal - Customized/Modified or Stock
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=402718

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/a...1&d=1297482811

theastronaut 09-14-2011 02:56 PM

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Here's what I came up with last night...

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...79306980_n.jpg

Thinking about trying it with a coat of honey/goldish stain first (to compliment my paint color) then topping that with black stain. I still haven't found any black aniline dye locally so I've yet to try that. I may also try tinting the clear coat with black paint to darken the finish some more. Will post back with more results later.

Str8axle 09-15-2011 08:26 AM

Re: Black wood beds!!!! Pics Please
 
Looking at the bed floor of my '65, it appears that the floor was painted AFTER the bed was assembled. I'll post a pic later of what i mean.

tazattitude 09-15-2011 09:17 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1Bad62Pro/Street (Post 4899219)
Post your Bed Wood/Metal - Customized/Modified or Stock
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=402718

@Str8axle - If they painted the bed after assy, the strips must be painted to? That would be a tedius job to mask up all those and only paint the wood

That looks nice to 1Bad62Pro/Street.
Looks like you can still see the grain. Would like more of a satin look to tie in with my other black on the truck

Looks better theastronaut
I have some dye coming so I'll be trying that next week. Supposed to get my wood and strips today. Been working on the widened tubs though. What a project that is. Rearranging the wood so I don't have to go as wide as the tubs in the red truck pic above. Plan on having them in primer tomorrow.
By the way, nice 'bug' you have there (saw on your thread)
I'll post pics next week.

oem4me 09-15-2011 10:23 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Str8axle (Post 4900548)
Looking at the bed floor of my '65, it appears that the floor was painted AFTER the bed was assembled. I'll post a pic later of what i mean.

Ok, on the contrary, looking at the bed floor in my '66, it appears that the bed sides and wheel tubs were painted AFTER the floor was in place. There is clearly body color paint remaining on the bolt heads and overspray on the black wood. I think I can even see evidence of a heavy (paper?) mask that was stapled in place before paint. Pics this weekend maybe.

My apologies to tazattitude for debating originality issues on his thread, when I think all he wanted was cool ideas on how to do his own. Nice truck!

aerotruk63 09-15-2011 10:57 AM

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OEM4ME That's what this forum is all about, were lucky to have someone with an original truck to make observations like that. I think the black wood bed is going to be a trend here. Thank you for any pictures you can post on this issue.

78 Chevyrado 09-15-2011 08:59 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by theastronaut (Post 4895910)
Here's a pic from an assembly line showing the painted wood floor, with a little gloss showing

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/a...1&d=1315669325


Got any more assembly line pics? we need a thread just for that, for each gen of chevy trucks.

aerotruk63 09-15-2011 09:05 PM

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I'd buy it but he won't sell to a Canadian.
http://www.classicpartsusa.com/image...RM_L1_Main.jpg

http://www.classicpartsusa.com/image...RM_L1_Main.jpg

theastronaut 09-15-2011 09:11 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 78 Chevyrado (Post 4901568)
Got any more assembly line pics? we need a thread just for that, for each gen of chevy trucks.

Ask and ye shall receive. :lol:

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=Assembly+line
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72freak 09-15-2011 10:10 PM

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About 5 coats of stain and about the same amount of clear.

greg65 09-16-2011 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by 72freak (Post 4901740)
About 5 coats of stain and about the same amount of clear.

Very nice David.

Str8axle 09-16-2011 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by oem4me (Post 4900667)
Ok, on the contrary, looking at the bed floor in my '66, it appears that the bed sides and wheel tubs were painted AFTER the floor was in place. There is clearly body color paint remaining on the bolt heads and overspray on the black wood. I think I can even see evidence of a heavy (paper?) mask that was stapled in place before paint.

On my bed, it looks as though the bed sides and tubs were put on after the assembled floor was painted. No masking or tape lines along the tubs and sides, only across the rear sill (see pix). And to answer your question, yes the strips are painted also.

aerotruk63 09-16-2011 10:16 AM

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Thank you for those pictures. Would you say it's a paint or stain that's been applied?

MikeN 09-16-2011 02:08 PM

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Red oak, Sherwin Williams oil-based exterior house paint, unpolished stainless strips...

http://www.chevelles.com/showroom/da...k_Bed_1_S_.JPG

72freak 09-16-2011 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by greg65 (Post 4902179)
Very nice David.

Thanks Greg.....that truck was built and sold. Did you get to see it?

scum1 09-17-2011 06:36 AM

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stained plywood and rails..nothing fancy..not the best pics..

you can see the stain but it looks alot better in person

tazattitude 10-19-2011 02:39 PM

Re: Black wood beds!!!! UPDATED with pics
 
Got my bed done!!!!!
:metal:

Got the effect I wanted with the wood. It's a very dark color, but you can still see the grain, not only in the clear itself, but in sunlight, you can see through the black.
The last 2 pics almost show it as black, but it's not.
The clear is a satin clear to tie in with the roof.

I made mods to the bed wood, so I had to drill all new holes in the cross sills.
I probably have about 60 hours in it all including the widening of the tubs.



http://www.attitudecustompainting.co...ed-wood-01.jpg
Got all my holes drilled along with the gas filler hole

http://www.attitudecustompainting.co...ed-wood-05.jpg
Here, I am dying the wood

http://www.attitudecustompainting.co...d_topside2.jpg
Resanded the wood

http://www.attitudecustompainting.co...ed-wood-08.jpg
Stained the wood

http://www.attitudecustompainting.co...d_topside3.jpg
Another pic of the stain

http://www.attitudecustompainting.co...ed-wood-13.jpg
Started clearing with satin clear - ended up spraying about 4 coats of clear on it.
Owning a bodyshop sure helped spraying the clear. Only took about 5 minutes to do all the wood

http://www.attitudecustompainting.co...nstalled02.jpg
You can see the widened tubs here. I also moved the boards around. The 2 skinnier boards are now on the outside. I did this to minimize the width I had to widen the tubs so I would fall on a board. LOT's of holes I had to drill.

http://www.attitudecustompainting.co...-2011/bed1.jpg
Done! Whew, the fuel cap hole fell perfectly in line!
I had relocated the fuel filler on the fuel tank so it would be a little more toward the center. Normally on the CPP tanks, it's about 5 inches to the left. Since I relocated the wood, the old filler location landed right on a bed strip

http://www.attitudecustompainting.co...-2011/bed3.jpg
Since these pics were taken, I lifted the tubs up and cut the strips so they ended at the tub flanges instead of going under it.
Looks better, plus it makes the flanges flatter against the wood.


http://www.attitudecustompainting.co...ear_view02.jpg
Also, redid the bumper to bed fillers so they are now smooth (no holes)

Now onto the tailgate









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