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just saw these on Egay and hadnt seen them before......but finally a 20" wheel and sold as a set of 6 not four. sorry if this is a repost!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/20x7-5-20-Ne...d55f4d&vxp=mtr

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Those are cool.
Direct bolt on 20" wheels!

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man i gotta get me some of those 058s!!!

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thats what i was thinking too....i had never seen a direct bolt on in 20" might save some guys time and money when looking at upgrading. not to mention all the fitment issues with the firewall and rear fenders??

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would let me run lower profile tires too! i was gonna go 19.5 but the smallest tire i can find for them was about 33" tall! with these i could run a lower profile tire, since mines a 2wd and will be stock hieght

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yeah i ran into the issue when looking at 19.5's....i would have had to have them milled down to 19 and tires are still pretty scarce in 19"
the price isnt too bad on these considering they are selling it as a set of 6.....hope it works out for you!

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yea i was wondering about that, i didnt think you could run aluminum inners as they were too thick.

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ive seen it done, im assuming they had the mounting surface milled down as well?

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I wonder what tire you would use with these?
They're only 7.5" wide,...

235/45-20?
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....=yes&tab=Specs

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thats a good question? hmm i will have to look into that?

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Several choices in 245-45/20, 255-55/20, and 265-45/20.

Usually people are running 265's or 285's on cut down Alcoas, which are only 8 or 8.5" wide.

If the wheels really are made to be run in pairs on the rear axle, then no problem. If not then you would have to match the 20 to whatever size was on the inner steelie.


EDIT: I called dude and asked specifically whether the wheels are made to be run in pairs, and if so what tire sizes are good to keep them from rubbing. So when and if he hits me back I'll post up the info for errbody.

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Since it's Saturday night and I have no life I crunched the numbers.

My dually is currently slowly sinking into my yard on 215/85-16's (overall diameter of 30.4").

The closest 20" sizes would be a 265/50-20 (30.4) followed by 255/50-20 (30" even). Both sizes sell for an average of $200 @ Discount Tire Direct (I had to pick an average figure since tire pricing is all over the map).

Add in the pricing on the wheels ($1500 or $1700) and it bumps the total up to $2700 for classics or $2900 for straight spokers. I'd guess mounting and balancing would add another hun, give or take.

To play devil's advocate, Lock sells cut semi wheel packages starting at about $3500, and the Townasty wheels for around $4250, IIRC. Granted, these prices are only for four wheels, but does include adapters which run about $800 - 900 by themselves. I use Lock as an example because the prices are on the website for anybody to see.

So you pays your money and makes your choices. I saw these wheels last week and thought a set of 20's would be hella cheaper than a set of semi's, but that really doesn't seem to be the case, unless you don't have a problem with really super cheap tires like, I dunno, LingLongs or whatever, or have a tire hookup (I don't).

IMO, if you don't choke on a 3K price tag you might as well step up and get what you really want.

DISCLAIMER: the tire prices I got are for name brand tires (Falken, Kumho, and BFG). There are probably cheaper tires out there especially on eBay, or even nice used tires.

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i like these wheels.... is an option for the guys that dont want enlarge rear fenders/narrow the axle...

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good point....

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Everyone is talking about low profile tires for a 2wd. What about 4x4"s ? How would 9.00-20's or 10.00-20's work out? 9.00-20's, same as on a military truck, would be great for off road.

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isn't there cheaper 20 inch tires out there? on the other hand i guess these ones may be good for towing too..... im not a tire expert but besides the quality on how long a tire would last is there a difference on lets say $125 20" tires and a $200 tire when it comes to towing?... just wondering.

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I'm just looking for a tire that will look correct on a 20x7.5" rim.
To me,... a 255 or 265 tire is too wide for a 7.5" rim.

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i would like these because i like the 19.5s i think the semi wheels are just too big, and i dont intend to cut my truck up just to fit wheels, and the townastys are waayyy more expensive than the 2700 for these 22.5s wheels and adapters and tires can easily fetch 5k

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No problem. 245/50-20's are 29.6 and 45-20's are 28.7 tall. I think some people do or did run 225/70-16's on dually's, these work out to be about the same overall diameter.

Both sizes are made by Falken, and run $140 - 165 depending on where you shop.

I run 215/35-16's on a 9.5" wide wheel on my GTI, so going the other direction doesn't scare me. Having said that, though, a balloned-out sidewall might cause a problem if you were running four wide tires on the rear.

Which is kinda why I'd like to get some input from buddy selling the wheels.

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225/70/16 is whats on my truck now

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this guy is 1 hr and a half away from from me so i save shipping...... but i have to pay the tax i always liked the classic style wheel i may have to look into tires a little more for my dually i would run like a 45 series tire nothing bigger....

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I heard these were coming out. So I am glad to see them. I have 22s on my black truck and love them but on my red truck I only have 17s and want bigger! These will fit right in perfect. I can still keep a decent size side wall for the crappy roads here in Tulsa. Only thing that will kill it for me is if you have to run a different size inside rear wheel. I think they all need to match. But that's just my opinion.
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Did a little more looking this morning. As of right now 245 section width is the narrowest tire Google can find in 20". If anybody knows better then let's hear it.

Normally tire manu's recommend anywhere from a 205 up to a 245 section width on a 7.5" wide wheel rim. Different tire models carry differing recommendations though so keep that in mind. We should be good with a 245 or 255, even if it looks a little blocky or balloned. Surely it won't look as bad as a 235/85-16 on a 16x6 wheel.

I am also somewhat concerned about the overall width of the rear wheels / tires. Wondering if the Eagle 20's have enough offset to keep the tires inside the fenders on a low truck.

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Yup.

On their face, they seem really cool, but I still have some reservations that make me want to hold off until everyone else figures out all the little "quirks" that are associated with running these wheels.

1. You still have the same issue with these as you do with milled semis in regards to load-rated tires. I know there's a lot of guys who tow decent loads on car tires without issue, but I'd hate to be the guy that has a blowout while towing. Best case, you're shredding a fender; worst case, someone gets hurt/killed. Neither of these are something I'm willing to deal with.

2. Can you really run all six? I *hate* the rear profile view when tire widths/profiles are mis-matched because the wheels are different. Not to mention, even on tires with the same spec'd overall diameter, you're still going to have minute differences in circumference which results in uneven tire wear. If you can run all six, are the offsets such that they actually fit under the truck? Like mis-matched tires, wheels hanging past the fenders look uber-dorky and completely negate any "cool" factor. Fender stretching, IMO, looks hideous. Narrowing the rear is an option, but do you really want to go to all that trouble? Like D.FENS said, at that point, the costs have come close to or exceeded the cost of a set of TowNastys.

Even if you can work past the issues in #2, for me, it still comes back to the issues in #1. As a guy who's been know to max out his GCW from time to time, I wouldn't feel comfortable running a set of car/light truck tires.

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Lots of good points.
I'll bet money, they don't tuck for low/bagged trucks.
I'm sure the specs are the same as oem wheels.
I doubt you can run four 20's in the rear.
Don't the adapters for the 22-24" semi wheels have longer studs?
This is what allows you to double up on the rear.

I see these as a stock or lifted dually wheel,...

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All I've had time for, thus far, is researching the available sizes, and working out the diameters.

Most of what's available is or seems to be aimed at the LT or SUV market, so they would be rated accordingly (I hope anyway), and you would be running four on the rear axle. I haven't done any comparisons on load ratings VS the usual 215 or 235 / 85 sizes.

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I thought some medium duty trucks came with 20s?
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Im waiting on a set of these myself for my dually project we have been working on at my shop.

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I hear what you're saying, but still, an LT or "SUV" tire isn't a "D" or "E" rated "commercial use" tire, which is all I'm comfortable running on a dually. I suppose for the guys who just have a nice cruiser, that doesn't pull any real tow/haul duty, it'd be okay. These are the same guys who run passenger car tires on 16" wheels already. But for a lowered rig that's still expected to work once in a while, I think there's some significant safety factors that still need to be addressed.

Like I said, I still need to gross 15k every once in a while...an LT tire ain't gonna get me there. Which really sucks, because the concept is totally bad ass. I'd love to run a set.

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Oops...double post.

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hey campy, i looked on tire rack and they have e rated 20" tires

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Hmm...well that's interesting. Do you recall what size/brand?

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looks like discount tire has 265/60/20 in load range e

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That's a big ass tire. Almost 32.5" in diameter. Compared to a 225/75/16, which is a hair over 29".

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PS...looks like a new thread over on DS. Maybe Lock will chime in with what he knows...

http://www.duallyscene.com/forums/ge...olt-t7889.html

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yeah i found out thats a big tire, i have found some 7.50r20 though, says they are a shade over 28" tall

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Interesting find, I was about to try and lift my 2wd so I can fit a set of 22.5's on it. I can't wait to hear more info fellas.

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Watching this one too....

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Light truck/SUV crossover tire options:

Michelin Latitude Tour HP
245-50-20's @ 29.7" tall; 7.5" recommended rim width; 1704lb capacity rating
235-55-20's @ 30.2" tall; 7.5" recommended rim width; 1874lb capacity rating

Yokohama Parada Spec-X
245-50-20's @ 29.7" tall; 7.5" recommended rim width; 1874lb capacity rating
235-55-20's @ 30.2" tall; 7.5" recommended rim width; 1874lb capacity rating

While the price might be close to the TW&T TowNasty's, I just don't care for the low, low, profile 22" tire on a dually unless it's laid-out. The other 90% of the time it looks lost. I think 20's are the great compromise. Obviously this doesn't do much for the guys that expect to tow a trailer loaded to the hilt, but 22's wouldn't have been an option in those cases either (22.5's might if they would fit)....

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Thanks scoti!
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